Headers And Exhaust

Hey i was wondering what you guys would recommend for a pretty good set of headers and exhaust system.

I would recommend pacesetter 4-2-1 if you have 2.2 and 4-1 if you have 2.4 for the header, and you cant go wrong with magnaflow for the rest of the exhaust.

Pacesetter dosn't make a 4-2-1... they only make 4-1 for eco, 2.4, 2200... your only choice are engine, Painted or armor coated.

OBX makes the 4-2-1 for the 2200 but the stainless steel tubing they use is wicked thin and junk. I've seen one first hand. RKsport makes 4-2-1 for the 2.4 but your going to pay out the ass for it. I think they also make one for the eco.. but don't hold me to that.

Magnaflow parts are great quality, but if you get their circular straight through fart can style make sure you use a good size resonator. Other wise they sound like shit when you have an after market header.

Pacesetter dosn't make a 4-2-1... they only make 4-1 for eco, 2.4, 2200... your only choice are engine, Painted or armor coated.

OBX makes the 4-2-1 for the 2200 but the stainless steel tubing they use is wicked thin and junk. I've seen one first hand. RKsport makes 4-2-1 for the 2.4 but your going to pay out the ass for it. I think they also make one for the eco.. but don't hold me to that.

.oops lol well thanks for clearing that up for me cody.

Hey i was wondering what you guys would recommend for a pretty good set of headers and exhaust system.
sorry it bugs me

sorry it bugs mehaha lol when are people going to learn...:rofl:

yeah no shit, why buy a set, you can only use 1 at a time on a 4 cylinder anyways....

I think i am going to cut my header and make it into two and then saw HAHA fuckers i got header"s" lol

I think i am going to cut my header and make it into two and then saw HAHA fuckers i got header"s" lollol thats one way to go about it. :lol:

400x150 photo sig limit is ghey... I protest 500x200!

I AGREE - TOTAL :bs:

or you could by 2 headers, and leave 1 in your garage, and when ppl say what you have you can say headers...and when they correct you, you can show them your second set...lol

or you could by 2 headers, and leave 1 in your garage, and when ppl say what you have you can say headers...and when they correct you, you can show them your second set...lollol thats another way of going about it I guess. :rofl:

got an idea, going ot go with a 4-1 and the seperate the pipes at the collector and run them into a second header that is streached out and then go with a 4-2-1 and get rid of the one and run two pipes to the back.

AKA headers and true duals.

Man i am immature

well I really dont know what to say to this lol and thats a first!!!

WTF??!?!?!?!!?! what is going on with thread direction here?

anyhow the pacesetter ceram coat is your best bang for buck. unless you've done a heavy amount of other tuning a 4-2-1 wont make any difference over a 4-1 and you're gonna end up losing some more low end on a 4-2-1 and that'll drive you insane if it's a daily driver. also the Pacesetter cat-back despite only costing me $300 cdn, every pic of a pacester cat-back has a resonator. the 2.4 system don't. it sounds good except between 3000-4500 rpm where it get's raspy and then up all you can hear is the WAI. a nice resonator will possibly go on mine if i keep the cav

k thx man

the pacesetter header is it farley straight forward for installing your self?

WTF??!?!?!?!!?! what is going on with thread direction here?

haha well welcome to the cavalier forums , where everything is weird. :lol:

haha well welcome to the cavalier forums , where everything is weird. :lol:

welcome? dude read my join date!

the pacsetter isn't too easy, the old manifold bolts are usually a bitch to undo and then you have to get the rest of the exahust to work with it

welcome? dude read my join date!

no i know man i was making a joke. chill brother.....chill.

Wow... dave is back from the dead.. Nice to see ya back, gona stay this time? You were one of the few people who actually knew what they were talking about and i didn't have to play clean up fixing wrongful information posted.

Well good to see your still alive atleast.

Wow... dave is back from the dead.. Nice to see ya back, gona stay this time? You were one of the few people who actually knew what they were talking about and i didn't have to play clean up fixing wrongful information posted.

Well good to see your still alive atleast.

I might stay but it's all the people arguing. it's already started! notaricajustfasta or something is telling me reaction times count at test and tune! :banghead: oh well. How goes it Cody? got that snail under the hood yet?

Anyhow the pacesetter ceram coat is your best bang for buck. unless you've done a heavy amount of other tuning a 4-2-1 wont make any difference over a 4-1 and you're gonna end up losing some more low end on a 4-2-1 and that'll drive you insane if it's a daily driver.
Really? I had put a Pacesetter 4-1 on my 2.2 and that felt like alot of lost rear end pressure. Then again I also had the Rksport duals without a resonator and highflow magnaflow cat. But yeah, I noticed alot of lost pressure and the car just felt alot more weak, like the exhaust wasn't pushing the car, like the exhaust just ended after the header. I was set on never getting a 4-1 again now you got me panicing and I don't know what to do lol Please explain. :screwy:

I might stay but it's all the people arguing. it's already started!

already started?? shit, it never ended

it will end now

no it won't. I come to this site for for the arguing. it's like my work, everyone bitches at eachother, rather commical

I might stay but it's all the people arguing. it's already started! notaricajustfasta or something is telling me reaction times count at test and tune! :banghead: oh well. How goes it Cody? got that snail under the hood yet?


Well I am waiting very patiently for my buddy chris to get his turbo up and running properly, but last night he told me the turbo is Shot ski, which is putting my car out of the RDFABS shop longer. The turbine is hitting the housing now, one of the other shop guys who isn't there anymore dropped the turbo on his a few months back and now that he's turn the car over, this issue has come up. So now were waiting on ATP to send us a rebuild kit for it. He's gotta get that thing torn apart, rebuilt and tuned by july 28th as we both have our main summer show on the 29th. Its gonna be close... I was hoping to have my exhaust installed and ready to rock in roll for this show, but thats not happening now. So here is how she sits now...

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/4435/dscf06443ct.jpg

I have an optima Red top in there aswell, just can't see it in the photo.

Well I am waiting very patiently for my buddy chris to get his turbo up and running properly, but last night he told me the turbo is Shot ski, which is putting my car out of the RDFABS shop longer. The turbine is hitting the housing now, one of the other shop guys who isn't there anymore dropped the turbo on his a few months back and now that he's turn the car over, this issue has come up. So now were waiting on ATP to send us a rebuild kit for it. He's gotta get that thing torn apart, rebuilt and tuned by july 28th as we both have our main summer show on the 29th. Its gonna be close... I was hoping to have my exhaust installed and ready to rock in roll for this show, but thats not happening now. So here is how she sits now...

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/4435/dscf06443ct.jpg

I have an optima Red top in there aswell, just can't see it in the photo.

dropped it? D'oh! if he started it, might want to check the veins on theturnbine and the housing for gouges, take it it's not a BB turbo. What is it anyhow? T03/T04? I take RD are making your charge piping. What sort of i/c you gonna run? HP tuners and some ford red or brown tops for injectors? actually, isn't yours TBI? how you gonna get round that?

Well right now, he's got a turbonectics t3 turbo ( Not sure on specs)

http://f7.yahoofs.com/users/445cadfem326fd4db/916d/__sr_/2c93re2.jpg?phghZvEBkJSzat8X

... and running 96 grand prix GT injectors.


Me I am just throwing in for the time being Pacesetter 4-1 armor coated header, 2.5" high flow cat, 2.5" primary exhaust piping from header back to rear axle, then y-ing off into 2- 2" tubes for my dual exhaust over the trailing arm...We cannot get 1/4" incraments in the SS tubing we use, so technically when you split the exhaust into duals your suppose to down size the tubing by a 1/4"... so the best i can do is 2". So instead of the 2.25 inch all the way back, going larger primary and then downsizing to 2" and adding duals will make up for the loss in tubing size and look much better under the type J rear..

If it dosn't work, I'll just rip it all apart over the winter... ha ha. Also I won't be going turbo untill we get chris's car totally functional and i get the car paint job done and paid for. Which is what i am saving now for... ouch..

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7448/dscf06274sj.jpg

if you drop 1/2" it will probably give you a nice mellow sound the 2" should sound pretty good.

but if u y pipe your car wouldnt u be freeing up more flow and wouldnt u loss some torque and shit and maybe horse or am i just smoking to much shit

Thats what seemed like happened when I did it anyway.

it wouldn't really make that much of a difference back there and you wouldn't lose power. you could lose toque but not power, you would gain power, I would imagine this is more of a cosmetic exhaust than a go faster one or Cody would only use one muffler

Yeah I learned that the hard way. I'm planning on putting a Magnaflow crossflow, single muffler dual outlet that's for Srt4's on my Z when i get the cashola. Should be pretty shweet. Im hopin' anyway.

yea its more for cosmetic appearance than anything. The whole go fast mobile went on the window when i bought wheels that weight 25lbs per wheel. I guess I am going into a phase where i would rather have more show and an overall better ride quality. I'll have my GTI someday but untill then I'll have this thing.

.... especially like tonight i went for some ice cream with her and a buddy, i had a girl in a mitsu galant try and street race me. I just starred at her and made constant eye contact and let her go flying when the light went green. I like my 5 years of a clean driving record.

I did that once, only when the light turned green I punched it in reverse.

I did that once, only when the light turned green I punched it in reverse.oppps!!!! :banghead: :banghead: hahah i cant say that i have ever done that. how did that end up working for ya??

I did that once, only when the light turned green I punched it in reverse.

Marty McFly?

.... especially like tonight i went for some ice cream with her and a buddy, i had a girl in a mitsu galant try and street race me. I just starred at her and made constant eye contact and let her go flying when the light went green. I like my 5 years of a clean driving record.

only 5 huh? 7 English and 5 Canadian!!

i can't even to manage a year of a good record. always get a ticket for something stupid. "Your taillight is out heres a ticket"

i can't even to manage a year of a good record. always get a ticket for something stupid. "Your taillight is out heres a ticket":werd: one night got stopped by a state trooper and he gave me a ticket for no front license plate. when it was sitting clearly in my windshield. improper turn for crossing double yellow line by a literally a foot, and window tint ticket. man i was pissed off..:banghead:

:werd: one night got stopped by a state trooper and he gave me a ticket for no front license plate. when it was sitting clearly in my windshield. improper turn for crossing double yellow line by a literally a foot, and window tint ticket. man i was pissed off..:banghead:


Honestly its best to just leave it out of the window, cops look for that shit. I got harassed in my PT cruiser since its a flordia car and didn't even have a bracket ( even though its under my driver's seat) i refuse to drill holes in my front bumper. But i got a warning since i daily drive a granny cruiser. I just threw it in my glove box and called it a day. I also refuse to put one in the front of my cav, its on the passenger side floor of that car. For all the cops knows it could be an outta state car with no plate on the front... ;)

well see technially in the state of illinois you have to have a font mounted license plate. i really dont like the look of a plate on the front so i thought i could get away with it being in the windshield where they could see it. it was only until a state trooper came into town (well actually it was like 20 of them in town for one nite) that i got stopped. the city cops could give to shits about it. its the damn state cops that like to bust balls.

yea illinois is really picky about that plate.

yea illinois is really picky about that plate.yeah your from here so you know all about it. fuckin stupid IMO.

got into an accident once and got a ticket for no front plate by the cop and the secne of the accident, i was like it's in a fucken ditch somewhere

yea illinois is really picky about that plate.

Come to NY.. We have the second worst car inspection BS to deal with next to California. If you have any CE lights, you fail or if you have any stored codes in your computer... you fail. It also use to have only a 10 day window to get the inspection done. But all the shop mechanics bitched enough and they threw that out the window. But still your car is critiqued for an hr to find things wrong. Unless you know someone... ;) Then it only takes 5 mins and 10 bucks on the side.

Rhode Island as well....Bastards

well as far as inspection goes, illinois is fairly easy. takes me about 10 minutes 20 tops.

Wohoo Go Canada... lol especially saskatchewan

like man everyuthing is liek gravel roads lol and shit like that just a bunch of hicks lmao :D

dirt roads are fun. just not nice to the paint and rims

dirt roads are fun. just not nice to the paint and rims i agree dirt roads can be fun as hell. well if your into drifting ans shit like that. :grinyes:

dirt roads to drift? Give me a paves corner and I'll show you lift-off oversteer!

i will drift my scooter >< lol jj dont got one but yes dirt roads in a piece of shit car are fun as hell

yes dirt roads in a piece of shit car are fun as hell exactly as least one other person knows what im talking about. :grinyes:

ya man u buy like a 200$ car put some gas in her and just give her hell on the gravel roads shit man u flip her in a ditch or something u take the plates and go and take out the gas if u want it lol .. i have done that twice already lmao.. me and my buddies just buy pieces of shit cars for fun and do that.. Real good time i suggest it to alot of people lmao!

Not alot of places to do that in a city/suburban area. :thumbsdow

Not alot of places to do that in a city/suburban area. :thumbsdowand that is a problem living in the city. no country roads to mess around on :lol: