SS/SC Vs. Srt-4

Coming home about 15 minutes before this thread was writen, I was behind a White Srt that happend to be leaving the same gated housing community that my friend's parents live in. We both happend to be turning left which made me think, "Oh yeah, this is on as soon as I get around this truck ahead of me". The Skittle makes his turn when the light go's green and I do a little shimmy around the truck to put the Skittle directly to my left. By the time I caught up to him we were both doing just a shade over 60, so this puts me in the very bottom of 3rd gear...not my cars strongest point.

So I creep passed him a bit trying to bait him and then he creeps back up on me. We jog back and forth a bit untill I just give the throttle two hard taps, this is all he needed I guess, because he just up and shot off like a mad hair. I follow in his pursuit and stop his pull for a moment, then I'm guessing he got through and turbo lag he was having and just starting running away and now I'm thinking "Shit, I've found myself a modded Srt and this is going to be over quick." But to my surprise, once he was out about a car ahead his pull completely haulted and now I'm gaining at about the pace that he was pulling on me. This is because he ran out of gear a bit quicker than I did and I still had a good amount of 3rd to use up.

By the time I pulled even with him I flicked the tranny into 4th and we just stood there even with eachother, moving back and forth a foot or two, but niether one gaining any real ground on the other. Then he started to fall back and didn't stop untill he was almost at my rear bumper, this caused me to think he was done with the run as we were only a qaurter mile from the next intersection and were doing well over 100 mph. So I let off the throttle for about 3 seconds, thinking it was over. Well, I was wrong and he was still at it. He pulled a nose on me before I could do anything about it, but he didn't get any further than that.


Once again I pulled him in and this time I put his nose at about my trunk and there he stayed untill I realized it was really time to shut down this race. That intersection came up real fast and was now a little less than a block away, so I hammered the breaks at about 125 and he shot passed me like I was standing still. We both took a right turn at the light and as he pulled into his neighboorhood I flash my high beams and gave him a wave as I drove by, I dunno if he noticed or not, but oh well.

I'm guessing this Srt was bone stock and the cause of his immidiate pull was the nasty tq those turbos produce. I'm sure he'll also be checking for boost leaks and trying to get rid of any boost creep he may have as well. I'm betting he didn't expect that outcome...I know I didn't.

Finally this race goes down, sweeet. Sounds like a fun race, the close ones are always the best.

nice kill :bananasmi

Nice kill, im really impressed I figured the SRT-4 would have had you...

I don't know how either of your ratio's are setup but I would have figured the turbo would give the srt top end over you...but I guess I was wrong

anyways congrats on that kill, few people get it

Thanks guys.

I also figured I'd lose by about a length or so. But, for some reason the powerband on this little 2.0 is almost all top end power. It's got some decent tq down in the mid range, but it has nothing at all untill about 3,000 rpm. You can really feel it kick in right at the 3,200 mark. Then it's a nice steady pull all the way to redline.

It makes me sad I have to get rid of this car soon, I had so many plans for it. :frown:

Nice kill. And did i miss something? Why do you have to get rid of your car?

nice one...you deffinatley have a factory freak....as a GM employee me and my co-worker took a couple out to the back and tested them out...we raced them against each other and then tryed it against my car......their pretty quick off line.....1st and 2nd gear it kept up against me but when I hit my third I just pulled and kept pulling until about 100mph then shut down....then we went from a 40 roll and it was a instant pull.....but it does sound like you have a strong car in your hands...so good kill

He's selling it cause he wants to buy a house... pffbt... Houses are so slow.

^^^^hahahaha......

Nice kill BdSS. I dont know what the deal is with all the SRT-4 races. We have next to none here. I maybe see one once every 3-4 weeks....seriously. People around here must just not buy them.....at all.

Nice kill BdSS. I dont know what the deal is with all the SRT-4 races. We have next to none here. I maybe see one once every 3-4 weeks....seriously. People around here must just not buy them.....at all.


Considering Dodge canceled the Neon/SRT-4 line last year... that would explain it.:wink:


Next up is the Dodge Caliber SRT-4... We'll see how that does.

Bulldog had a point about why it may have been so close with him winning. Aren't the SRT-4's kind of notorious for boost leaks. That alone makes this story completely believable to me. And yes the top-end is extremely good on the SS/SC.

Nice kill BdSS. I dont know what the deal is with all the SRT-4 races. We have next to none here. I maybe see one once every 3-4 weeks....seriously. People around here must just not buy them.....at all.

i see very few around too,, but every single one I see ALWAYS wants to race.

Next up is the Dodge Caliber SRT-4... We'll see how that does.

so if the neon srt-4 is a skittle does that make the caliber an m&m?

i call BS... how can a car alomost a full second slower in the 1/4 mile.. with, only basic mods win, especially sayin ur SC car got the Turbo top end.... hard to believe.... i have a st.2 SRT and i completely up and leave SS cobalts so i think a stock would at least get one by 2 cars or so... idk maybe he was a bad driver... anyways good kill bro... u never can tell..

nice one...you deffinatley have a factory freak....as a GM employee me and my co-worker took a couple out to the back and tested them out...we raced them against each other and then tryed it against my car......their pretty quick off line.....1st and 2nd gear it kept up against me but when I hit my third I just pulled and kept pulling until about 100mph then shut down....then we went from a 40 roll and it was a instant pull.....but it does sound like you have a strong car in your hands...so good kill


There are a couple things you have to consider when testing the cars right off the lot. First, they need a good 3,000 miles of use to really be broken in to make full potential power. They are safe to beat up on right out of the box, but are still not as fast as they could be after a few thousand miles. The second and most important thing is, the fact that dealerships never put 91+ octane in the vehicle they recieve, they're just too damn cheap to do something smart like that. Everyone that owns one knows to stay away from any less than 91 if they want their car to perform at all, they really do feel weak with piss water in the tank.

Now I'm not saying these two variables would have completely changed your experiment with the Cobalts against your Srt, but I'm willing to bet the difference would have been noticeable.

As far as my car being a factory freak, I don't think it's all that faster than most out there. I just think most Cobalt drivers suck ass. :lol:



i call BS... how can a car alomost a full second slower in the 1/4 mile.. with, only basic mods win, especially sayin ur SC car got the Turbo top end.... hard to believe.... i have a st.2 SRT and i completely up and leave SS cobalts so i think a stock would at least get one by 2 cars or so... idk maybe he was a bad driver... anyways good kill bro... u never can tell..


So what is it then? BS, or a good kill?

so if the neon srt-4 is a skittle does that make the caliber an m&m?

I think it makes it a starburst

i call BS... how can a car alomost a full second slower in the 1/4 mile.. with, only basic mods win, especially sayin ur SC car got the Turbo top end.... hard to believe.... i have a st.2 SRT and i completely up and leave SS cobalts so i think a stock would at least get one by 2 cars or so... idk maybe he was a bad driver... anyways good kill bro... u never can tell..

I beat an SRT before I increased my boost and my car was more than a sec slower on the 1/4 so you gonna call BS on me too even when I had witnesses?

[QUOTE=BullDog71ss]There are a couple things you have to consider when testing the cars right off the lot. First, they need a good 3,000 miles of use to really be broken in to make full potential power. They are safe to beat up on right out of the box, but are still not as fast as they could be after a few thousand miles. The second and most important thing is, the fact that dealerships never put 91+ octane in the vehicle they recieve, they're just too damn cheap to do something smart like that. Everyone that owns one knows to stay away from any less than 91 if they want their car to perform at all, they really do feel weak with piss water in the tank.

Now I'm not saying these two variables would have completely changed your experiment with the Cobalts against your Srt, but I'm willing to bet the difference would have been noticeable.

As far as my car being a factory freak, I don't think it's all that faster than most out there. I just think most Cobalt drivers suck ass. :lol:


the ones we tested were trade ins and had about 3k on them...as far as the gas the previous owner used I dont know....but all I know is after third they cant keep up....but the never ending battle between the srt and the cobalt, redline, wrx, evo, ect......are going to go back and fourth....on the street you win some and you lose some......anything can happen and thats just how it goes....

Sounds like both...?

I suppose he was congratulating me on my bullshit kill??

[QUOTE=BullDog71ss]There are a couple things you have to consider when testing the cars right off the lot. First, they need a good 3,000 miles of use to really be broken in to make full potential power. They are safe to beat up on right out of the box, but are still not as fast as they could be after a few thousand miles. The second and most important thing is, the fact that dealerships never put 91+ octane in the vehicle they recieve, they're just too damn cheap to do something smart like that. Everyone that owns one knows to stay away from any less than 91 if they want their car to perform at all, they really do feel weak with piss water in the tank.

Now I'm not saying these two variables would have completely changed your experiment with the Cobalts against your Srt, but I'm willing to bet the difference would have been noticeable.

As far as my car being a factory freak, I don't think it's all that faster than most out there. I just think most Cobalt drivers suck ass. :lol:


the ones we tested were trade ins and had about 3k on them...as far as the gas the previous owner used I dont know....but all I know is after third they cant keep up....but the never ending battle between the srt and the cobalt, redline, wrx, evo, ect......are going to go back and fourth....on the street you win some and you lose some......anything can happen and thats just how it goes....


Well then, who knows...maybe the slightly used cars had some crappy, low octane fuel, or your buddies are crappy ass drivers. Or, maybe your car is faster than most srt's? :wink: Either way, it was a fun run with a surprising outcome.

Considering Dodge canceled the Neon/SRT-4 line last year... that would explain it.:wink:


Next up is the Dodge Caliber SRT-4... We'll see how that does.


Thats right because once they stop making a car, the car is no longer being sold by used car dealers and private parties. :rolleyes:


:p

Thats right because once they stop making a car, the car is no longer being sold by used car dealers and private parties. :rolleyes:


:p


Also, most people... probably don't want to pay the extra money for a SRT-4... Because to most people, it's still just a Neon with a wing.

Second hand market for cars like that is tough... if you're not in the know, you look at it and go... "man, that looks stupid... with a wing and big wheels..." or "looks like a lot of Hondas i see.. nevermind."

Same with EVO's and STi's. The majority of the public see them as... "why?" cause of their aggressive looks with the flashy wheels, spoiler/wings and 'tight' suspension.

[QUOTE=209 SRT]


Well then, who knows...maybe the slightly used cars had some crappy, low octane fuel, or your buddies are crappy ass drivers. Or, maybe your car is faster than most srt's? :wink: Either way, it was a fun run with a surprising outcome.

well I wouldnt say my car is faster than most srts....I will say that I can drive better than most srt drivers....but do you really believe that a stock cobalt ss is faster than a stock srt with equal drivers.....

[QUOTE=BullDog71ss]

well I wouldnt say my car is faster than most srts....I will say that I can drive better than most srt drivers....but do you really believe that a stock cobalt ss is faster than a stock srt with equal drivers.....


Hell no.

It depends....if by "stock" SRT-4 you mean its got boost leaks then yes :grinyes:

srsly how come they leak so much? every time I run an SRT-4 its the same story.
me: yo man nice run, you modded?
SRT-4: yeah I got like 400hp to the wheels but I got some boost leaks right now.....
me: :rolleyes:

when I run Cobalt SS/SC:
me: yo man nice run you modded?
Cobalt:Yeah man some minor stuff, nice run bro.

its always the same deal.....different streets and people but same deal...:p

It depends....if by "stock" SRT-4 you mean its got boost leaks then yes :grinyes:

srsly how come they leak so much? every time I run an SRT-4 its the same story.
me: yo man nice run, you modded?
SRT-4: yeah I got like 400hp to the wheels but I got some boost leaks right now.....
me: :rolleyes:

when I run Cobalt SS/SC:
me: yo man nice run you modded?
Cobalt:Yeah man some minor stuff, nice run bro.

its always the same deal.....different streets and people but same deal...:p


What can they say...they have leaky cars. :lol:

I love turbos and all, but damn would I hate to have to deal with that crap all the time. The turbo setup on my Camaro was almost leak proof though, that was nice.

[QUOTE=209 SRT]


Hell no.

ahhhh ok just clarifying....

It depends....if by "stock" SRT-4 you mean its got boost leaks then yes :grinyes:

srsly how come they leak so much? every time I run an SRT-4 its the same story.
me: yo man nice run, you modded?
SRT-4: yeah I got like 400hp to the wheels but I got some boost leaks right now.....
me: :rolleyes:

when I run Cobalt SS/SC:
me: yo man nice run you modded?
Cobalt:Yeah man some minor stuff, nice run bro.

its always the same deal.....different streets and people but same deal...:p

the infamous boost leaks are mainly due to the vac/boostline set up and weak worm clamps....but every smart srt owner knows to ditch the worms and get t-bolt.....and zip tie all the lines.....

I beat an SRT before I increased my boost and my car was more than a sec slower on the 1/4 so you gonna call BS on me too even when I had witnesses?

Don't you know? The SRT-4 is the new LS1 FBody. It can't be beat. Ever. Nothing will ever be able to take the SRT-4, not even the Veyron. Despite the fact that a clear majority of SRT-4 owners can barely muster anything better than a mid to low 14 down the 1/4 mile, they still regularly beat C6 Z06s, heavily modded Evos, and F22 Raptors. They can out run sound and light.

Yeah, the worm clamps don't hold for crap. I have a boost leak, the entire vac system. I was told, under full boost, during a race that all they could hear was the sound of rushing air. They said, damn you're turbo is loud! :lol:

So I have proof damnit!

Yeah, the worm clamps don't hold for crap. I have a boost leak, the entire vac system. I was told, under full boost, during a race that all they could hear was the sound of rushing air. They said, damn you're turbo is loud! :lol:

So I have proof damnit!


Your vacuum sucks.:(

Wouldnt that be a good thing, I know my Hoover sucks like a prostitute in need of a 20.

Don't you know? The SRT-4 is the new LS1 FBody. It can't be beat. Ever. Nothing will ever be able to take the SRT-4, not even the Veyron. Despite the fact that a clear majority of SRT-4 owners can barely muster anything better than a mid to low 14 down the 1/4 mile, they still regularly beat C6 Z06s, heavily modded Evos, and F22 Raptors. They can out run sound and light.


F22 raptors? LOL

F22 raptors? LOL


They're destroyed by SRT's on a daily basis, dude. Man, you're way outa the loop after that trip to the far East.



:lol:

man i guess..."hey look! its a bird! its a plane! its........an SRT!"

Yeah, don't you know, the only thing that can escape a black hole is an SRT-4.

You know where SRT-4's came from right? They came from the other side of a black hole, that's how we know there is a way to the other side.

lol

i heard the srt-4 controls earth's seasons too,, each season has one srt, like srt-winter, srt-spring, etc.

i heard the srt-4 controls earth's seasons too,, each season has one srt, like srt-winter, srt-spring, etc.


Lousy Smarch weather.



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Good kill. Those SRT-4's are not that much faster then the Cobalt SS from what i've read. I'm sure your mild mods helped to make up the power deficit.

Modded though, the SRT-4 has alot more potential IMO then the Cobalt SS. Too bad it has problems w/ boost leaks though.

Good kill. Those SRT-4's are not that much faster then the Cobalt SS from what i've read. I'm sure your mild mods helped to make up the power deficit.

Modded though, the SRT-4 has alot more potential IMO then the Cobalt SS. Too bad it has problems w/ boost leaks though.


Actually, I'm not even mildly modded anymore. I sold off the intake for $180 about 2 months ago. I just havent bothered to take it off the list of mods in my sig.

I miss my blower whine. :frown:

Actually, I'm not even mildly modded anymore. I sold off the intake for $180 about 2 months ago. I just havent bothered to take it off the list of mods in my sig.

I miss my blower whine. :frown:

What do you mean, that carbon fiber hood adds like 10hp. Not modded, please :p

Actually, I'm not even mildly modded anymore. I sold off the intake for $180 about 2 months ago. I just havent bothered to take it off the list of mods in my sig.

I miss my blower whine. :frown:

just add like 6 or 7 stickers and you'll be able to take any srt-4 :grinyes: