Tire Issue part 2

Well, Kevinthenerd was right,the tire was still being cut by the fender even after I had some of it cut off,well we cut even more out of it out and it seems to be fine now,still could use some camber tho..

haha.

So you mean you looked at the tyre and saw where the fender had been cutting through it?

Yea that would be our fault...stupidity...we checked the tire on the front right after i ran my heat race and it seemed fine..whew

So about some photos of the car?

Factory size tires pretty much never rub... ever.

the tire is a 205 65R 15"

I would love to post some pics on here but i dont got a digital pic..ill update with pics as soon as i can someway...

Is that the orginal tyre size though?

Well according to tyrerack the orginal size is a 215/65 15.
So your actualy a running a tyre smaller than stock.
The chances of that rubbing are virtualy nil, especialy if you have already cut the guard back.

Now, are you also going to say that in this wonderful world of digital technology you can not get even one simple cell phone photo of the car?

I have no idea what the original tire was,this car was bought used, it was a racer before...and yes i do have 1 pic on my cellphone but whenever i try to send it to my email it sais "Invalid destination address"..and i think it might of been the fender cuz I watched the other cars and the front right gets so low going through the turns.

why dont you minimise body roll with a stiffer suspension and anti-sway bars?

So, lets recap:

We have a guy who's been racing cars for awhile, has served on a pit crew, and comes from a motorsport family, whos running in a class that allows camber changes to the suspension, but limits tyres to stock sizes only.
He dosn't know what tyres he's running.
The Tyre he is running is to small, but still manages to rub on the guard, yet he dosn't notice it.
The guards have already been rolled to give more clearance.
And, he hasn't yet thought to invest in some better springs and shocks.
Oh, and his cousin, who is apprently a mechanic, dosn't know how to build a camber plate, or how to disassemble a suspension strut.

do i detect a hint of disbelief here?
i'd stay and help with the question but i've got to do a top end rebuild of my '73 RS and source another set of four cam shafts.....
:naughty:

You wanker, 73's had five cams. One intake, one exhaust, one midget, and two double helix's.

careful with the language.....

Alright,my class isnt limited to stock tires,just not racing tires,which I already told you,and my tire is a 205 65R 15"..and my cousin isnt a mechanic..Listen before u go sayin stuff

If your not limited to tires why are you running such shitty ones?

So, lets recap:

We have a guy who's been racing cars for awhile, has served on a pit crew, and comes from a motorsport family, whos running in a class that allows camber changes to the suspension, but limits tyres to stock sizes only.
He dosn't know what tyres he's running.
The Tyre he is running is to small, but still manages to rub on the guard, yet he dosn't notice it.
The guards have already been rolled to give more clearance.
And, he hasn't yet thought to invest in some better springs and shocks.
Oh, and his cousin, who is apprently a mechanic, dosn't know how to build a camber plate, or how to disassemble a suspension strut.

Columbo, is that you?

I thought you said in your original thread that you were limited to using the stock size tire. You crack me up :screwy:.

which original thread?

this one? (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=580173)
or
this one? (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=479390)

which original thread?

this one? (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=580173)
or
this one? (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=479390)

The first one. It was closed because this guy was irritating everyone and the thread turned argumentative. If you haven't read through all of it already you should. It's freaking hilarious.

well... i pointed out the two threads because, well, looking at the dates, it looks like the guys has been having the same thing happen (if he is to be believed) for around half a year and is only now trying to get some answers.

i would've figured that if i couldn't figure out what was wrong, I wouldn't be doing any sort of racing, due to it being a danger to myself and others, until it is sorted.

there are different kinds of stupid in this world.
one of them is the kind that needs to be removed from the gene pool.
guess which one this is?

anyway, he can't be columbo.
he didn't say...
"oh, one more thing...."

or ask about his shoes.

Well im done asking you people for help,Im 16, im just starting out and all of you have to be assinine about this blowing things out of proportion,as soon as I can get pics of my car I will post them just to show you guys them im not making this up,like most of you think I am,and once again I apologize for not being a mr.goodwrench for all of you..

And here comes the anger, anyone know what the 3rd stage of an online fantasy is?

banlandia? or just leaving the forum...... or is it then saying that he can't get pics because his camera broke/ his harddrive crashed/ his friend lost his camera, etc.

Amature :rolleyes:

Next comes denial, he will start denying things, changing his story around etc.
Then comes either more anger, and he gets banned, or acceptance, and he admits to his errors. From there he just has to try and earn some respect back, usualy by doing lots, and lots of reading, and keeping a really low profile.


Of course, we could all be over reacting, and he might be telling the truth.
But thats easy for him to prove.

:nono:.... Finally figured it out I told you guys I wasnt lying...


http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l124/Carfreak18/071106_2055a.jpg

My car during the howler 100 enduro lake erie speedway...!!

Wow.

Thats a race car?


Ok, assuming its yours (and its easy to find photos of anything on the net) it looks like what ever wheels are on the car, are not ment to be there.
The wheels and tyres should fit in the guards, not outside them.


The whole things looks very unproffesional and dangerous.
Have to wonder about the type of "racing" you claim to be doing, and what sort of help you've been getting with it.

VIVA LA MEXICO! ... that car might be good for driving though fences...

For The Last Time...ive Said Its A Stock Class,a Cheap Class!..and When I Get Home..which Will Be In About An Hour Ill Send You More Pics To Prove You Its Mine...and Whats Wrong With The Wheels?..this Isnt Nascar!.

If the wheels are the wrong off set then they will rub on the guards, no matter what you do.

So, how about a photo of you with the car, with a sign that says "Hello AF" or words to that effect, Ill let you use your imagination.


So, more questions, just what club to you race with? What series? What type of racing is it (they all have names, and if you really compete you will know what they are).

...and Whats Wrong With The Wheels?..this Isnt Nascar!.
What's it for , 3/8 mile oval?
Something creepy about that right front. It's sticking further out than I'd expect. Like Moppie said-check out the pedigree on those wheels-- they may be mongrels.

Its every friday night..krazy kompacts class..go to the site if u want and go to point standing on the right hand side and go to krazy and im right at the bottom...Rusty Leone-#18R..damn this didnt have to be this big of a problem.

www.lakeeriespeedway.com thats gonna be helpful

if you have that much clearance between tyre and wheel arch how the hell does it rub?

come again?

www.lakeeriespeedway.com thats gonna be helpful


Interesting, did you ever bother to read the rules for your class?

http://www.lakeeriespeedway.com/2006%20Krazy%20Kompact%20Rules.pdf


Because its pretty clear on suspension mods, including changes to camber, but its pretty open in terms of what tyres you can run.

Its been over an hour, wheres the pictures?

by the way, any self respecting person would not race in a class called "krazy kompacts"

I wonder if they allow leaf blower forced induction in that class... with a name like Krazy Kompacts I would hope so. If you are interested in this let me know; I've got an old echo blower lying around that I no longer need. It'd probably be good for 40 horsepower and would compliment those wheels you have wonderfully.

Wow its funny how im 16 and acting more mature than all you adults?...well i proved my point..im not making this stuff up and you guys can ramble on like little kids im done talking to you thanks for no help.

And theres the denial.

Does this mean your leaving?

Wow its funny how im 16 and acting more mature than all you adults?....
He's right too. You guys are all acting like giggly 16 year olds on your first prom date.
Me, I'm totally upper crust and dignified.
Oink, oink.

He's right too. You guys are all acting like giggly 16 year olds on your first prom date.
Me, I'm totally upper crust and dignified.
Oink, oink.


Hey, I was 17 when I went to my first school ball.
And I was only giggling becuase of all the Kava I drank. And the Beer.



But, we still have someone who is making lots of claims they still seem to be unable to properly substaniate.
So either he is racing at a level well beyond his ablity, making him a danger to himself and others, or he's got limited access to a race track, maybe to watch someone else race, and is building an online fantasy around it.

My experiance in Grass Roots motorsport has always been a positive one filled with lots of help from more experiance particapants, with a strong emphasis on safety.
Quite the opposite of what is being drawn out here which is largely whats causing all the doubts.

you guys are really blowing sh*t outta proportion....just drop it I dont need any of your useless help...

Then why do you keep asking for it?

Because im tryin to prove my point that im not making all this up,hell I proved as much as I could and you idiots still find things to make fun of n shit

how about a pic of your in your race gear?

get some different wheels with the correct offset. the rules only say that they have to be dot rated tires. easy fix.

Thats me on the drivers side getting in..blue firesuit..black and white hat=raiders...what do you mean by correct offset?

Your a "race car" "driver" and you dont know what offset is?

Your a "race car" "driver" and you dont know what offset is?


Or what brand of tyres he's running, or for that matter how to read the rules and regulations of his class, or even how to chat with other drivers at track, in what is clearly a class aimed at low budget entry level drivers, and so should be filled with lots of helpful advice.
Oh, and don't forget his cousin, who has a shop, and works on cars, but isn't a mechanic and who dosn't know how a strut comes apart.


Its either all really bad fantasy, or I hear lots of Dueling Banjos.

Oh sorry I dint explain my life story to you guys, my fault..its my uncles auto body shop,hes retired now and we use it for the race cars..how about you all just stop talking cuz none of you obviously can help me..

the way i figure it you drive in a very amatuer form of racing and have been making it out to be bigger than it really is, whilst asking for some genuine help.

your cousin has done bits and bobs in a garage but isn't really a mechanic and just gives you a helping (non-technical) hand.
you race but are in no way an experienced driver.

your "racing team" is two guys who tend to a car (badly)

how close is this?

as far as your question goes... look up the origonal wheel size for your car. It will be "wheel diameter x wheel width" or vice versa and et# or jj# that # is the number of mm the mounting face of the wheel is from the center. more important in your situation i think is the backspacing. you need to find out how much room you have between the strut tower and the mounting face of your wheel, after you know that you can determine what width wheels to look for so you don't have so much wheel sticking out from under your car.

ok, thank you for helping and not being so negative, and yes drunkenmonkey you have pretty much figured it ou what ive been trying to explain thank you