Anthony I need your help....

I emailed www.tuningshop.co.uk to find out about the Supersprint back boxes. The guy said there are two available one for the GT (150 hp) and one for the 1.6/2.0.

He said this:

"Only Nissans similar in supersprint are for 2.0 GT (150bhp) 1997-1999

and

1.6i/2.0i 1996-1999 (no bhp specified)

both 120 X 80mm oval

£163 + VAT = £191.53 + £12.50 delivery"

Now the question is what one to get, I really dont want to get the one designed for the 1.6/2.0. I think I should get the GT one, Ill be adding a GT exhaust manifold anyway.

Hope you can help
Neil

Neil have you had a look at the supersprint website ... it might help a bit http://www.supersprint.com/English/modelli.asp?MA=93&GR=nispri

ps...I think U should be able to get a cheaper price then that....

ragt20 do you know of any other suppliers?

Neil

I looked at the web site and the one designed for the 2.0 (non GT) is the same one as the 1.6, Part number 930705. The GT (150 hp) is a different part number (930805). I think I will just order the GT one because i dont want a back box on my 2.0 that is designed to fit a piddly little 1.6:D

Neil

The best thing to do would be for you to come down to York, and there, both me and Anth can have a good look at your car, for comparison you understand, and tell you which one to get for definate, just so you dont waste your money:D

So what do you say??????????????????????

:finger:

Hey, no big deal, you wanna waste your money on a mistake, fine, dont say i didnt offer to help:D

Kev can you go onto MSN just now?

my 100th post:finger:

Neil try Larkspeed, they sell them, also try eurostyling.com they are Supersprints main dealers in the uk....they also have a long list of other possible suppliers in the uk
http://www.eurostyling.com good luck.....let me know where U get the best deal from as I am looking at putting the Superspint backbox on my car as well.....:D :D

Ragt20 I have had three quotes for differnet companies and they all charge the same £191.

:D Neil i just tried Larkspeed (0113 264 3231) they quoted me ££173 inc vat and delivery, for my car 98reg P11GT.....I asked him three times to confirm the price, as it is a big difference from your quotes.....give them a call.....

I think ill go with them then, but I will have to wait till mid September for delivery according to the other companies I spoke to.

Did you order one?

Ragt20 could you do me a BIG favour and take a pic of your back box/exhaust on your car? from underneath? Im going to get the GT one and need to know if it will fit.

Cheers
Neil

will try and do photo soon.....no I haven't ordered yet......am first going to lower the car....therefore maybe sept/oct for the backbox

:cool:

What springs are you going to use to lower it? are u getting new dampers as well? How much are you going to lower it?

Neil

ragt20 I have just discovered that Remus make a back box for our cars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Getting some prices as we speak.

http://www.auto-extreme.com/shows/ttl2000/primera1.jpg

I think this is the Remus back box on this Primera, it has a TwinER 92x78mm tailpipes.

Neil, I will be using the Eibach lowering springs, drop of 30-35 mm....
I'll be sticking with stock dampers for the time being as they R virutally new, car is only 3yrs old and has only just done 19k miles......let me know how U get on with the Remus backbox prices....but I prefer the Oval tail that comes with the Supersprint......I thought you were looking for Sebring at one stage......ps don't Magnex do a stainless steel system for this car....or is it toooo loud......:confused:

Neil, I just checked with Elite who are main dealers of REMUS in this country......they said Remus do a Single squared oval 92x78 for the P11GT.....and for the non GTs the TwinER 92x78 again squared oval....
their price for the P11gt one was £190 inc vat and delivery.......
I think I may stick with Supersprint.......

Sorry for not replying to this topic earlier Neil - I've been on a training course this week and haven't really had access to the 'net.

I've heard good things about the Supersprint exhausts from people in the BMW community, but I haven't heard any comments or seen any dyno graphs for the Primera backbox.

To the best of my knowledge, the fitment for the GT and non-GT backboxes is the same, although if Kevin (P11GT) would be kind enough to bring his stock backbox to York on Sunday, I'll confirm this for you.

Assuming the fitment is the same, you'd be better off getting the GT backbox, as this will be "tuned" for a higher power level than the standard 2.0i one.

Hope this helps you out :)

Thanks for the reply Anthony, Ragt20 can I have a contact number for Elite? cheers

Neil

I am going to order the Supersprint one tomoz, from Larkspeed.

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Elite (01708 525577)......I go along with Anthony I don't think there is any difference between the Gt and none gt backboxes, in respect to fitting......its a bit difficult to take picks of my stock backbox but after having a good look at it.....I can say that the Supersprint 9030805 for the GT is virtually identical to my stock in fitting.......
as U can see from the pics of the 2 bacboxes from SSprint, there is hardly any difference in fittings.....

for P11 GT 930805

I got my new digi camera today so ill get under the car and take loads of pics of the exhausts system/back box.

as U can see from the 2 pics....apart from the 930805 having a Silver (Ssteel maybe) connecting end and the 930705 just having a continuos black end I can't see any other differences.......

for Non GTs 930705

neil that picture U have attached, is that of your backbox....cause it is very similar to mine......

Yes it is, BRB im off to take pics of it again ...............so u can compare them.

Ragt20 there is a number stamped on the back box can u see what your is? cheers

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:)

As I said, the two fitments look similar, but I can't say that the two are exactly the same without having two to compare.

If Kevin brings his stock backbox to York on Sunday, then I'll compare the two to check they are identical.

OK? :cool:

neil how have U taken these pics, is your car on a ramp or something.....
from what I've seen so far looks very similar.....will check after work if there is any number stamped on.....
ps...where should the number be might help in locating.......

The number is stamped on the back box...u cant miss it. I crawled underneath the car, it was a tight squeeze.

was looking at your car pics on Primeraweb, and your backbox looks identical to mine from that picture.....just need to 100% sure one fitament........
ps now I know why I couldn't get under my car to take the pics......my rear bumper is different then yours, its a couple of inches bigger, thus closer to the ground.....:what:

These pics are for PrimeraGT(Henry)..........to see if a g20 CAI will fit..

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Im sure you could squeeze under there....get your old cloths on and get a couple of black bin bags so you can sit on them. If you cant do that just stick the camera under there and press the button, hopefully u will get a few good pics.

Who said that you cant get back boxes for our cars? :D I have just found out Jetex make a back box for our cars.

Neil the First pic highlights where the 3 hooks that hold the Bbox in place are.......

Your doesn't seem to have a number/nissan logo on the back box. Thanks for the pics.

exiting out of the BBox

correction....U can't see the Nissan Logo and number under the Bbox on that pic....:D anyway the number is 20100 3J410....hope this helps:confused:

whats with all these monkeys.....U've been watchin Planet of the Apes tooooo much.......:finger: :finger: :D :D

Neil... about the CAI

Your car appears to be a 2000+? is this correct?


Your MAF looks like mine (black plastic), the kind Henry has is the 99 which had the older smaller diameter alloy MAF. Best bet is to measure the opening for the MAF and the throttle body so we can compare...


Hotshot and Place Racing both make CAI's for the 2000+ Here's a pic of mine with an AEM by pass valve fitted in there too.. please excuse the dirty engine bay and greasy prints all over my new chrome CAI..

My MAF sensor seems to mount a little different, but your MAF looks to be the bigger size like mine..

My car is a 97 Primera P11.

Hmm... the 99 and younger cars here had the alloy MAF.


Loosen the clamp from the rubber piping on the throttle body and measure the opening of it. Then loosen the other side of the pipe and measure the opening in the MAF.

Originally posted by b-b00gie
Neil... about the CAI

Your car appears to be a 2000+? is this correct?




Doh!! I'm a dumbass, lol... I forgot the 144 series came out there in Sept. 99 :bloated:

The number on my back box is 20100 3J400 .......The number on a GT BB is 20100 3J410.

does this mean they are different or it is just a different batch number:confused:

I dont give a rats ass anymore, im buying one designed for the GT. If it doesnt fit it will be a good excuse to fit a full CAT back Poweflow exhaust. Cheers for all the help Ragt20.

Right guys I have decided I am getting a Powerflow custom made CAT back exhaust. I dont have a clue what to ask for, like the size of the piping, ammount of boxes in the system (does that make sense?) etc Any advice would be much appreciated. Ragt20 I can get a full Powerflow CAT back custom made system for only £250! Plus I dont have to wait over a month to get it, and I can choose the tail pipe. I think ill go for a 4" round. Also does anyone know what the standard Decibel level is of the standard system?

Cheers
Neil

For exhaust piping, you want somewhere between 2.25" and 2.5" for non-turbo applications. Any larger than that, and you'll start losing low end power due to a lack of back pressure. Any smaller than that, and you'll limit top end performance.

Oh, and you'll want manderel (sp?) bends in preference to crush bends too....

Oh, and you'll want manderel (sp?) bends in preference to crush bends too....

What does that mean? what advantages does that give? ......When I get it fitted ill record the exhaust sound so you can all have a listen.

Mandrel bends leave a nice progressive curve throughout the bend...

A crush bend is.. well.. picture bending a piece of pipe over your knee. lol..

Thanks for the explanation, KEVIN (P11GT) you have a Powerflow system do you know what type of bends they use?

I think its what youve called mandrel bends, all i know is that they use this nice bit ofhydralic machine which uses curved clamps to bend the piping to the correct angle, a bit like the tool that plumbers use (not the floppy spring thing! you'd have to be Geoff Capes to bend 2.5" dia piping!)

As for the diameter of mine, i think its 2.5" if i recall correctly, its the biggest size they normally carry in stock, but they can go upto 3" but normally need to order that size in. But like Anth said, dont go beyond 2.5" you may loose back pressure.