Civic hatch VS T/A WS-6

Well, haven't posted a race here in forever. In fact, this race is something I saw out on the streets while putting around in my SUV. I usually get in a street race everyday almost, but don't really care to post any of it, win or lose. But, this race made me so proud of Honda, I have to post this one.

So...

I was driving around in my 1999 Isuzu Rodeo the other night on my way to go see Signs(good movie, BTW), with a friend, and we got next to this late-model silver Trans-AM WS-6(said it right on the back). The T/A was to my left, with a blazer to my right, and a black '89-'91 Civic hatchback to the right of the Blazer. Well, the T/A driver decides to gun it when the light turned green(LOUD), and take off fast. I think he was trying to bait the Civic who took off moderately fast because his and the Blazer's lane merged into one. Well, the Civic got the hint from the T/A, who at this time slowed down(enough so that we were about 20 yards behind him when the race started) and was just revving his burly V8 while the Civic got next to him...then they both take off!

The crazy part about this race was that the Civic got the jump on the T/A by about a car, and not only held it, but increased it a bit...as they both turned into tiny red lights in the distance...My estimate was they both dipped into the hundreds easy in the race. Anyways, I was gonna get next to the Civic and ask what kind of mods he had, but he busted a turn at the light where the T/A was stopped...apparently he just took time off his driving schedule to spank some butt...

I got next to the T/A and saw it was a couple of young punks driving it...

The Civic was my style...all black with stock steel rims painted black, no stickers, no wings, just plain bad-ass looking. Big exhaust, but not too loud...

To be honest...I didn't think the Civic had a chance.

:D that story puts a big ass smile on my face thnx for posting

pssh uh huh whatever sure... ok ... i believe you... right.


american cars never loose

:rolleyes:


hehe cool story, i like hearing when some kid who's had his license like 3 weeks gets burned the night he steals daddys play toy.

if my kid ever steals my Nova he best not return with a story of how some guy kicked his ass all up and down the boulevard!

Oh the shame! :hehehe:

i would be mad he stole my toy if i was a dad and i had a son........he could ask...and i would let him drive around but i would be in the car...

probally a turbo'd civic vs kids who dont know how to work a stick....because even a turbo'd civic shouldnt have a chance against a T/A unless its got some serous work

course, it coulda been a firebird with bagdges :rolleyes:

eatherway, good story, its always good to hear young punks getting burned (i'm young, but I try to be cool to everyone outside of flaming poons like that)

hard to say about it having some major work. a friend of mine ran a 13.0@112 at speed world in phoenix in a gsr on street tires, not 100% sure on the trap, but he is running on stock internals, without being tuned for that altitutude, and not running the nitrous, i'm sure if track conditions were a little better, not 106 degrees, he could have pulled out 12's, maybe gotten close to 11's with the nitrous and slicks, or broken something with the nitrous and slicks, hehehehe. not to bad for a car that is running full interior, ac, everything, and drove 8 hours to get there. sorry for going off track, but anyways, the best runs in stock ws6 is 12.9's, but with traps around 100, so a well tuned turbo setup on a hatch like that with a b16/b18 swap, and it should be relatively easy.

i nearly got beat by an Si well i did i didn't have enough room ......bloody auto didn't drop to first it went to second so i got off on a slow start and he jumped me and b4 i got into big numbers there was traffic dammit .................

but yea don't underestimate the power of honda :D

Now thats something you don't see everyday. :)

Drools..........S K Y L I N E...........MUST GET ONE!

Sounds like fun. There is a bone stock looking neon that runs low 12s at the local drag strip. It even still has those cheap stock plastic hubcaps on it. So, I guess anything is possible. My money would be on the T/A fumbling something though. How do you know that the T/A did not pull ahead later on? you said their tail lights disapeared in the distance?

Originally posted by 94svt5.0
How do you know that the T/A did not pull ahead later on? you said their tail lights disapeared in the distance?

That's because they got real small in a hurry, but were still within viewing distance, especially with the tall street lights over both cars(going west on Bell Rd. just past 51st Av., for everybody that's been to the area). Also, I can see the Civic's tailight get smaller, quicker in perspective.

It might have been just a regular T/A with badges, but it at least had a LOUD V8. It had dual exhausts of the oval-shaped variety, and a raised silver-and-red WS-6 decal on the right hand trunk area. Blackbird01, where ya at when we need ya? Anyways, the T/A was loud enough to drown out the Civic's exhaust note.

Originally posted by carrrnuttt
Anyways, the T/A was loud enough to drown out the Civic's exhaust note.

flowmaster makes a catback system for firebird v-6's which makes it louder than many v-8's, i've been fooled by it before, and wondered how I was taking out a trans am :hehe:

it was a ws6, no need to analyze it, just let it be. hell, my buddy was in phx two weeks ago with an 11 second talon that looks near stock except for some gold bbs wheels, so you never know what is roaming the streets

Originally posted by cybercrx00
it was a ws6, no need to analyze it, just let it be.


My bad, didnt know you were there.:rolleyes:

Originally posted by 94svt5.0



My bad, didnt know you were there.:rolleyes:


hahahaha

well, we all know f-body guys are infallable, and would never do anything to resemble a "ricer" like put emblems from a different trim on his vehicle, so it has to be a ws6

Just like that black SIR Trans Am I saw some mexican family in. They don't falsely badge at all ahaha :silly2:. I really regret I didn't say anything to him.

Originally posted by 94svt5.0



My bad, didnt know you were there.:rolleyes:


No, he wasn't, but the guy who was, carrrrnut, WAS THERE, and he said it was a WS6, so let it be! Especially since you WEREN'T there, we'll just take his word over yours.

Originally posted by Self



No, he wasn't, but the guy who was, carrrrnut, WAS THERE, and he said it was a WS6, so let it be! Especially since you WEREN'T there, we'll just take his word over yours.



Oh, did not know you were his official spokesperson.:rolleyes:

thats great! Glad a 4th gen civic was able to hang!:D

hmmm i dont doubt a civic took a WS6, but that civic would have to have had a really good turbo setup with a good tune. It also could be the WS6 driver was an idiot. LS1's have a monster third gear, so he may have been catching up. Oh well, props to the civic driver for a fast car. Anything can happen on the street.

When will domestic realize that certain all motor setups in a light ass 4th gen civic keep up with and even beat V8s? Its possible! I mean shit, most 4th gen hatches with a GSR motor will turn high 13s easily. Anyone ever seen the video of a 5th gen civic whooping ass on a viper? I like that one. Or how about the one with a red 5th gen whooping up on a a new vette? its happens, but you know what they say "the first symptom of ignorance is Denial..."

Sorry but its going to have to take more then just throwing a GSR engine in a Civic to beat a Viper. Those videos, well its not like there isn't a 400+ hp Civic out there somewhere, matter of fact was watching TNN today and they had a Civic on there racing, I think they said Pro 4th Cylinder. Anyways, slicks on the front, completely fiberglass body, probably fast as shit, I wouldn't know though I didn't watch long enough.

Another thing about slicks. I was asking someone on the Viper forums about slicks on a Viper. He was pretty much telling me because of the independent suspension, you'll snap the halfshafts easily with a big set of slicks on there. There is a way to fix that and all but what about a Front Wheel drive car? You can't really put a wide set of slicks on a Civic can you?

What 'All motor' setups beat a standard Chevy 350 V8? Can you say the same for a 396? Or a 427?

Originally posted by EFsleeper
When will domestic realize that certain all motor setups in a light ass 4th gen civic keep up with and even beat V8s? Its possible! I mean shit, most 4th gen hatches with a GSR motor will turn high 13s easily. Anyone ever seen the video of a 5th gen civic whooping ass on a viper? I like that one. Or how about the one with a red 5th gen whooping up on a a new vette? its happens, but you know what they say "the first symptom of ignorance is Denial..."

Yeah dude, it's been beat to death. Believe me there are idiots on both sides of the import/domestic saga. When we all choke down our pride and race what you've brought, don't cry when you loose, and congradulate the people the brought the better vehicles and come away with a win, we won't need the spokesmen of the different sides of the story to post about who's seen the better ride with the cooler mods. I'm tired of the whole my import/domestic is better than yours routine. It's fucking old. Remember, always bigger fish in the sea, regardless of the badge on the hood. And really, no offense meant to you EFsleeper, you comment just happened to set me off. Sorry bro.

That said, mad props to the civic that won and :flipa: to the WS6 that lost. Stupid people that don't know how to shift their 6 speeds deserve to get wasted.

Originally posted by DeViL
What 'All motor' setups beat a standard Chevy 350 V8? Can you say the same for a 396? Or a 427?

Bisi Ezeroah <sp> has a 1.5l CRX in the 10's. there are a few others in the 10's n/a too. As for his setup, I'm not sure what it is, but not bad for n/a in any car.

I want an N/A car in the tens, I'll put any badge on it you like.

Originally posted by DeViL
Sorry but its going to have to take more then just throwing a GSR engine in a Civic to beat a Viper. Those videos, well its not like there isn't a 400+ hp Civic out there somewhere, matter of fact was watching TNN today and they had a Civic on there racing, I think they said Pro 4th Cylinder. Anyways, slicks on the front, completely fiberglass body, probably fast as shit, I wouldn't know though I didn't watch long enough.

Another thing about slicks. I was asking someone on the Viper forums about slicks on a Viper. He was pretty much telling me because of the independent suspension, you'll snap the halfshafts easily with a big set of slicks on there. There is a way to fix that and all but what about a Front Wheel drive car? You can't really put a wide set of slicks on a Civic can you?

What 'All motor' setups beat a standard Chevy 350 V8? Can you say the same for a 396? Or a 427?

First, I never said a simple GSR swap would be a viper so learn to comprehend basic paragraphs. Second, No you cant run a large set of slicks on the front of a civic but you can run a set that will do the job just fine. There is no need to modify the body of the car unless you are trying to 10s or 9s. Third, I dont know what cars you are placing these chevy motors in so i cant really make comparison. I also dont know what these motors normally run but if you give me a list I can let you know what will be comparable.

Originally posted by BlkCamaroSS
I want an N/A car in the tens, I'll put any badge on it you like.

Hell yes! i love the sound of a V8 around 5800 rpm... and the crackle through the exhaust when you let off! an its cool about your post man. I wasnt posting it in the sense that imports are better over domestics, so you didnt offend me at all. I just hate all the domestic guys who refuse that some imports are in fact fast. I like V8s. I like imports. I just like to go fast. I just choose to have an import. I have considered getting a mustang though. My friend is starting to get me hooked, love the torque. Something that I miss with my Honda!

We all want the same thing- to have a bad ass car. I dont see why we have to be so mean to each other. Respect each others cars for what they are and what they can do. Dont be an ass to your fellow auto enthusiast. And if you want to be an ass there is a man who lives down the street from me who is around 57 years old with a goddamn 84 dodge omni that is tagged, inspected and runs 11s. im sure he will be willing to race you. Theres always gonna be someone faster than you out there.

i would have loved to see the look on those kids faces, and then i would have loved to make fun of them about it.:D

Ahh a civic kickin ass, is there anything better?

a green gold metallic 73 camaro Z28 kicking ass

I drive a 89 civic hatch that is SOHC and run low thirteens, even though my car doesnt have many......or acually any of the lucuries that most cars have low thirteens is pretty damn fast for a SOHC civic. And i agree that people that drive V-8s, most anyway, dont think that a 4 cyl. will ever be powerfull at all, when some of us "ricers" run just as fast as you do, with half the horse power. Its always nice to see a civic win a race against a Muscle head because it , somtimes, shows the muscle, the rice is just as fast. Represent..

This thread is almost six months old:rolleyes:

rice isn't fast...rice is stoopid...IMPORTS can be fast however. forever an ever, there will be an arguement about which is better, the high rev'n light weight imports, or the big brute v8's of domestics? rite now, the V8's have the edge (look at the fastest V8 in the world compared to fastest I4), but the imports are catchin up. fastest civic in the world is puttin down 8's, an there are N/A set-ups pushin 10's, lookin at 9's within the next couple years. i really don't think arguing back an forth over which way has any point. people need to get off their high horses, an realize that racing is racing. every enthusiast wants a car that they can be proud of, an say is theirs. the ignorance of BOTH import AND domestic drivers can get quite annoying. the domestics saying or questioning any time a V8 loses, an then the annoying ricers saying that they can beat a viper with a stock civic w/ its highly tuned exhaust. its never going to end, but on this forum, we should atleast make a truce, an realize that it doesn't really matter an that we are all enthusisasts who enjoy auto's.

Originally posted by BlkCamaroSS
This thread is almost six months old:rolleyes:

lol..jus noticed it after posting...gay :hehehe:

I noticed it as well and hereby banish this thread to the darkest depths of this forum!!!

The Dictator:devil: