2g NT ?s
Dreamspawn
06-30-2006, 10:45 PM
I was doing some reasearch about the 420a i noticed there is the 2.0 versions in the NT eclipse and talon. And the 2.4L in other dodges. I was wondering does anybody make a stroker kit for the 2.0 to goto 2.4L or could i use the crank,pistons, etc.. out a 2.4l to bump the 2.0 up.
EricSchnabel
07-01-2006, 12:03 AM
dude have fun looking i haven't looked into it much but i havn't found any stroker kit for the 420a motor.
Thor06
07-01-2006, 12:37 AM
There is a 2.2 kit, you'll just have to look.
Dreamspawn
07-01-2006, 01:00 AM
Thanks i'll run a google search and see if it kicks back anything.
Dreamspawn
07-01-2006, 03:10 AM
Found this and thought it might be of some use to other 2Gnt owners thinking bout stroking or swapping motors. btw i foudn the howell kit thanks Thor06 http://dsmtuner.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148444
If you go with the 2.4L bottom end *swap*
The passenger side motor mount doesn't work, you will need a bracket made
the lower water pipe will need to be creatively held to the block, since the bolthole doesn't bolt up right
the dipstick will need to stick between header runners 2 and 3. Check the oil on a cold motor only
oil pan doesn't work well with the exhaust. Can be modified by cutting support ribs to make work with the crossmember, but for the exhaust, I am at a loss. Custom pan necessary
PT Cruiser alternator bracket works (can't remember the belt size)
must use underdrive pulley
recommend sandwich adaptor and oil filter relocation due to crappy location
custom ps and sc brackets need to be made, as well as a way to tension the belt
starter requires some notching of the bracket that holds the lower water pipe in order to bolt it to the transmission
the 4 corner head bolts must be from a 2.4, not a 2GNT, as the 2GNT corner head bolts (4 of them) are too short to meet the threads in the 2.4
2.4 oil pan gasket is needed
the main seals from the 2.4 are different then the 2.0
I recommend removing the balance shafts. They are on the bottom of the bedplate and can be removed by pulling 4 bolts and cutting the drive chain. There is now an oiling hole that must be blocked. I recommend tapping it and screwing a bolt in there, using red loctite
I also recommend baffling the oil pan if you remove the balance shafts. there is now a 6.5 qt. capacity in the pan which is too easy to slosh around.
2.4L valve cover doesn't fit well. Not sure if silicone sealant would fix this or not.
2.0 sensors (oil pressure, knock, and crank angle sensors) must be used. The 2.4 sensors don't fit the harnesses. Must get creative on knock sensor placement.
coil pack must be rewired: switch the outside wires
cam position magnet must be removed, the location nipples filed off, and replaced, turned counter clockwise 90 degrees.
Injectors must be rewired, move 4-3, 3-2, 2-1, 1-4.
This is all that I can think of off of the top of my head. I would not recommend this swap to my worst enemy.
-=B-=
This was given to me by the1bill GOOD LUCK WITH THIS SWAP
If you go with the 2.4L bottom end *swap*
The passenger side motor mount doesn't work, you will need a bracket made
the lower water pipe will need to be creatively held to the block, since the bolthole doesn't bolt up right
the dipstick will need to stick between header runners 2 and 3. Check the oil on a cold motor only
oil pan doesn't work well with the exhaust. Can be modified by cutting support ribs to make work with the crossmember, but for the exhaust, I am at a loss. Custom pan necessary
PT Cruiser alternator bracket works (can't remember the belt size)
must use underdrive pulley
recommend sandwich adaptor and oil filter relocation due to crappy location
custom ps and sc brackets need to be made, as well as a way to tension the belt
starter requires some notching of the bracket that holds the lower water pipe in order to bolt it to the transmission
the 4 corner head bolts must be from a 2.4, not a 2GNT, as the 2GNT corner head bolts (4 of them) are too short to meet the threads in the 2.4
2.4 oil pan gasket is needed
the main seals from the 2.4 are different then the 2.0
I recommend removing the balance shafts. They are on the bottom of the bedplate and can be removed by pulling 4 bolts and cutting the drive chain. There is now an oiling hole that must be blocked. I recommend tapping it and screwing a bolt in there, using red loctite
I also recommend baffling the oil pan if you remove the balance shafts. there is now a 6.5 qt. capacity in the pan which is too easy to slosh around.
2.4L valve cover doesn't fit well. Not sure if silicone sealant would fix this or not.
2.0 sensors (oil pressure, knock, and crank angle sensors) must be used. The 2.4 sensors don't fit the harnesses. Must get creative on knock sensor placement.
coil pack must be rewired: switch the outside wires
cam position magnet must be removed, the location nipples filed off, and replaced, turned counter clockwise 90 degrees.
Injectors must be rewired, move 4-3, 3-2, 2-1, 1-4.
This is all that I can think of off of the top of my head. I would not recommend this swap to my worst enemy.
-=B-=
This was given to me by the1bill GOOD LUCK WITH THIS SWAP
l_eclipse_l
07-01-2006, 03:00 PM
blah blah blah lots of typing
OR....you could sell your N/T and buy a turbo DSM, and have a 4g63 that dosn't need to be stroked to have power and you don't have to mess with all that shit to make it run right. Also, you can run DSMLink. Nuff said.
OR....you could sell your N/T and buy a turbo DSM, and have a 4g63 that dosn't need to be stroked to have power and you don't have to mess with all that shit to make it run right. Also, you can run DSMLink. Nuff said.
Dreamspawn
07-01-2006, 04:20 PM
You find me a Turbo 2g for what i paid for mine and i will. Which was 0$ it was a gift from mom and dad. I'm just searching for more speed and i found the article wrote one dsmtuners on why not to do a 2.4L swap i thought maybe it make me a good addition to the sticky for the NT owners who are thinking bout it.
l_eclipse_l
07-01-2006, 08:05 PM
You find me a Turbo 2g for what i paid for mine and i will. Which was 0$ it was a gift from mom and dad. I'm just searching for more speed and i found the article wrote one dsmtuners on why not to do a 2.4L swap i thought maybe it make me a good addition to the sticky for the NT owners who are thinking bout it.
Ok well you paid nothing. So sell it and then you have whatever you get for the car + whatever you were going to spend on the swap, you can find something turboed and be set if you really want speed. It may not be in the best shape and it may have high miles, but if you search enough you could find one.
Ok well you paid nothing. So sell it and then you have whatever you get for the car + whatever you were going to spend on the swap, you can find something turboed and be set if you really want speed. It may not be in the best shape and it may have high miles, but if you search enough you could find one.
Dreamspawn
07-01-2006, 08:12 PM
I'm not swapping i was thinking bout it then i found out all the info now i'm just turboing the 420a once i get done building the internals in time. I dont have a job right now since got out of the hospital and can't get a new one till i get new social security card since the other was stolen. I was just doing reaserch and thought that would be useful to some ppl thinking bout the swap.
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