Newbie Needs Help/Advice finished Honda Civic
Lilfazzl
06-25-2006, 07:25 PM
Hey yall. Im new to this stuff. I just finished a Revell Honda Civic Si and it turned out like crap. I was wondering which company's kits have turning wheels and wheels that can actualy roll and are of good quality. the ones on hte civic suck because there is no rod connecting them and they snap off with to much pressure, and they cannot turn left right. Also, i used a model spray car paint but it didnt turn out so good. what do you guys use, air brush? if so, how much do they cost. thanks
blubaja
06-25-2006, 07:31 PM
Search. FAQ. So on and so on. Welcome to AF!
freakray
06-25-2006, 07:33 PM
Welcome :wave:
How the wheels mount has nothing to do with it, the trick to mounting wheels is only applying the necessary pressure and nothing more.
How the wheels mount has nothing to do with it, the trick to mounting wheels is only applying the necessary pressure and nothing more.
Lilfazzl
06-25-2006, 07:35 PM
No, becuase if seen some pics on the forum where the two front wheels are connected by a rod, rather than just glued to the brake.
blubaja
06-25-2006, 07:51 PM
Ok..so you want a toy. Get metal rod. Make sure it can connect to both wheels, but not too far out. You don't want them sitting outside of the fenders. Unless you do. Drill through the engine. Shove the rod through the engine. Superglue, or whathave you, the wheels to the rod. Do for the rear the same way.
ZoomZoomMX-5
06-25-2006, 08:22 PM
Get a Maisto diecast kit. The wheels steer and roll and you won't break the model when you play with it. Plastic models are meant to be static models, they're really not intended for play or rolling, even the ones with steerable wheels.
M1CRO
06-25-2006, 08:38 PM
Very true ZoomZoomMX-5, Also the burago kits can be built and played with.
M1CRO.
M1CRO.
Lilfazzl
06-25-2006, 08:59 PM
lmao, i dont want to play with it. i just want to be able to put the front wheels at an angle when i display it. so itl look good in pics etc.
freakray
06-25-2006, 09:52 PM
If the wheels are connected by a rod, they will not be able to be positioned.
If they are individually mounted and steerable, you're too impatient in mounting them and will break them.
I gave advice on mounting the wheels, you said 'no'. That's fine, but if you find a way of having steerable wheels which are connected by a rod, please let me know.
If they are individually mounted and steerable, you're too impatient in mounting them and will break them.
I gave advice on mounting the wheels, you said 'no'. That's fine, but if you find a way of having steerable wheels which are connected by a rod, please let me know.
Lilfazzl
06-25-2006, 10:26 PM
sorry about the confusion, i didnt mean to say "no" to ur advice, i was saying that no, as in "this is what i mean"
if that makes sense...
but yeah, what are better kits for noobs, cuz this honda one was kindof hard because a lot of the pieces didnt fit so i had to sand em down and bend etc.
Thanks
if that makes sense...
but yeah, what are better kits for noobs, cuz this honda one was kindof hard because a lot of the pieces didnt fit so i had to sand em down and bend etc.
Thanks
freakray
06-25-2006, 10:31 PM
If you want straight forward kits with very few fit issues, I suggest you look towards some of the Japanese kit manufacturers like Tamiya.
Revell kits are good for learning painting and buidling technique as they require more patience and help you develop your modeling skills. If you want instant gratification through simply throwing kits together, Tamiya and Fujimi make some kits which require little clean up or test fitting.
Revell kits are good for learning painting and buidling technique as they require more patience and help you develop your modeling skills. If you want instant gratification through simply throwing kits together, Tamiya and Fujimi make some kits which require little clean up or test fitting.
Lilfazzl
06-25-2006, 10:39 PM
i dont necessarily want something too easy. i ahve built many snap together and F and F semi easy ones. Revell seem hard because they dont fit that well. maybe thats just the way it is and ill get used to it. the thing that kills me though are the small parts, like the lights, the small engline parts, the decals, that type of stuff. i want to do a ferrari next. ill post pics of the civic if i get a camera today.
drunken monkey
06-25-2006, 10:56 PM
if you find a way of having steerable wheels which are connected by a rod, please let me know.
maybe he really wants to make a scale working version wheel bearings and differentials.
:dunno:
maybe he really wants to make a scale working version wheel bearings and differentials.
:dunno:
willimo
06-25-2006, 11:19 PM
If I may be so bold as to put forth a different opinion of what he means - I think the "rod" he is referring to is the piece that connects the wheels via the hubs. Not an axle, but the part in the kits that looks like a steering rack, or tie rods, or whatever, and connects to the hub at the front or rear, so that when you pivot the wheels, they turn together. Part A2 on in the instructions, here. (http://www.1999.co.jp/dbimages/user/hobby/itbig/10043425z3.jpg)
MidMazar
06-25-2006, 11:55 PM
Can we say static?
Lilfazzl
06-26-2006, 12:42 AM
If I may be so bold as to put forth a different opinion of what he means - I think the "rod" he is referring to is the piece that connects the wheels via the hubs. Not an axle, but the part in the kits that looks like a steering rack, or tie rods, or whatever, and connects to the hub at the front or rear, so that when you pivot the wheels, they turn together. Part A2 on in the instructions, here. (http://www.1999.co.jp/dbimages/user/hobby/itbig/10043425z3.jpg)
Yes, that is what i ment, thanks.
Sorry for all the confusion.
Yes, that is what i ment, thanks.
Sorry for all the confusion.
hirofkd
06-26-2006, 02:09 AM
If that's the case, the question should have been which kits have "poseable steering" (or "steerable front wheels"), and you'd have got more helpful answers.
And the answer is...well, it depends. US kit manufacturers (like Revell/Monogram and AMT/ERTL) seem to prefer a detailed steering assembly, so tires don't turn. Testors used to sell import kits under its own brand, and many of them do have poseable steering.
Japanese manufacturers traditionally include poseable steering (since the motorized model/toy period), but some don't, like Tamiya's 350Z kit which has two metal axis for the front and rear.
As for painting, you can use spray can and still be able to achieve a masterful finish. It just that it requires some getting used to. Those tips and tricks are detailed in FAQ and How-to section, so have a look.
Finally, welcome to car modeling and AF.
And the answer is...well, it depends. US kit manufacturers (like Revell/Monogram and AMT/ERTL) seem to prefer a detailed steering assembly, so tires don't turn. Testors used to sell import kits under its own brand, and many of them do have poseable steering.
Japanese manufacturers traditionally include poseable steering (since the motorized model/toy period), but some don't, like Tamiya's 350Z kit which has two metal axis for the front and rear.
As for painting, you can use spray can and still be able to achieve a masterful finish. It just that it requires some getting used to. Those tips and tricks are detailed in FAQ and How-to section, so have a look.
Finally, welcome to car modeling and AF.
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