1990 Galant GSX/ 1991 Galant VR4 project
Sleepr awd
06-25-2006, 12:49 AM
I bought both a 1990 Galant GSX and a 1991 Galant VR4. The VR4 was in an accident and is totalled, not even worth salvaging as far as i could tell because the cross member was in the wrong spot. It just so happens that the cross member being shoved over means the engine in the GVR4 (which was freshly rebuilt) had the front mount torn off the block (holes and all). So that block is toast.
The Galant VR4 is 106/2000 for those of you keeping track. It is quite literally the earlist Galant VR4 i have EVER seen.
I tore out the interior of both cars and am in the process of putting the Galant GSX back together with the wonderful leather interior that was in the VR4. The wiring harness was swapped as well as the Eprom ECU.
The dash is also being swapped in, badge and all.
With the car came some very mild goodies. I received a ported 14b turbo, 2.5 inch TBE, new K&N filter, new battery, mbc, turbo-timer and an A-pillar mounted dual gauge pod with boost and EGT gauges. I recently bought 194NA bulbs to replace the standard bulbs on it, so that it would match the factory amber color. I have also just finished the wiring so that the gauges wont' be on unless the car is on, and the factory foglight switch is in the "on" position.
Both cars came with brand new tires.
I'm also swapping the brakes over and am planning on replacing the lines with new factory hose. The brakes are the ones on the VR4, so they are fairly large and stop very well.
I'm still a long way from being finished and hit a snag when i found out the engine wasn't going to just drop in. Otherwise i'd be driving the thing around now and picking on some poor ricers.
Things left to do:
wire in the relay for gauges/fogs
swap rear ends/driveshafts/axles/hubs front and rear.
rebuild the engine on the n/t block that came from the GSX
put the rest of the interior in.
swap the tinted windows from the VR4 on to the GSX
get an EGT probe for the gauge (it is lacking)
Long term plans(next summer):
Evo3 16g turbo
2g ported ex. manifold
evo 8 FMIC
550cc injectors
IC sprayer
meth/h2o injection
harpipes
GM 3" blow thru
dsmlink
hard pipes for EVERYTHING
Relocate the battery to the rear
maybe a 4 bolt rear end
and hopefully 25lbs of boost :evillol:
and that should put me in the 12's
The thing should be running and driving around by the end of july, but again, no promises :uhoh:
Thanks to Rob (cassiesman), Trent, Ramone, Rasmey, Adam, Stu, Malcolm, and Kim for helping me take this thing apart and put it back together. I really couldn't have done it without you guys (well maybe, but its nice having you all around)
http://bsprogs.com/files/119/Galant%20GSX%20Project/Engine%20and%20me.JPG
^^ me before i learned the front mount was broken because ... at that point, all we had to do was hook it up and start it. I have a very pissed off persona about me now because the fudgin' thing is BROKEN!!
http://bsprogs.com/files/119/Galant%20GSX%20Project/halfway.JPG
http://bsprogs.com/files/119/Galant%20GSX%20Project/Galant%20GSX%20rear.JPG
http://bsprogs.com/files/119/Galant%20GSX%20Project/galant%20GSX%20side.JPG
http://bsprogs.com/files/119/106%20of%202000/100_0883%20small.JPG
http://bsprogs.com/files/119/106%20of%202000/100_0882%20small.JPG
http://bsprogs.com/files/119/106%20of%202000/100_0881%20small.JPG
The Galant VR4 is 106/2000 for those of you keeping track. It is quite literally the earlist Galant VR4 i have EVER seen.
I tore out the interior of both cars and am in the process of putting the Galant GSX back together with the wonderful leather interior that was in the VR4. The wiring harness was swapped as well as the Eprom ECU.
The dash is also being swapped in, badge and all.
With the car came some very mild goodies. I received a ported 14b turbo, 2.5 inch TBE, new K&N filter, new battery, mbc, turbo-timer and an A-pillar mounted dual gauge pod with boost and EGT gauges. I recently bought 194NA bulbs to replace the standard bulbs on it, so that it would match the factory amber color. I have also just finished the wiring so that the gauges wont' be on unless the car is on, and the factory foglight switch is in the "on" position.
Both cars came with brand new tires.
I'm also swapping the brakes over and am planning on replacing the lines with new factory hose. The brakes are the ones on the VR4, so they are fairly large and stop very well.
I'm still a long way from being finished and hit a snag when i found out the engine wasn't going to just drop in. Otherwise i'd be driving the thing around now and picking on some poor ricers.
Things left to do:
wire in the relay for gauges/fogs
swap rear ends/driveshafts/axles/hubs front and rear.
rebuild the engine on the n/t block that came from the GSX
put the rest of the interior in.
swap the tinted windows from the VR4 on to the GSX
get an EGT probe for the gauge (it is lacking)
Long term plans(next summer):
Evo3 16g turbo
2g ported ex. manifold
evo 8 FMIC
550cc injectors
IC sprayer
meth/h2o injection
harpipes
GM 3" blow thru
dsmlink
hard pipes for EVERYTHING
Relocate the battery to the rear
maybe a 4 bolt rear end
and hopefully 25lbs of boost :evillol:
and that should put me in the 12's
The thing should be running and driving around by the end of july, but again, no promises :uhoh:
Thanks to Rob (cassiesman), Trent, Ramone, Rasmey, Adam, Stu, Malcolm, and Kim for helping me take this thing apart and put it back together. I really couldn't have done it without you guys (well maybe, but its nice having you all around)
http://bsprogs.com/files/119/Galant%20GSX%20Project/Engine%20and%20me.JPG
^^ me before i learned the front mount was broken because ... at that point, all we had to do was hook it up and start it. I have a very pissed off persona about me now because the fudgin' thing is BROKEN!!
http://bsprogs.com/files/119/Galant%20GSX%20Project/halfway.JPG
http://bsprogs.com/files/119/Galant%20GSX%20Project/Galant%20GSX%20rear.JPG
http://bsprogs.com/files/119/Galant%20GSX%20Project/galant%20GSX%20side.JPG
http://bsprogs.com/files/119/106%20of%202000/100_0883%20small.JPG
http://bsprogs.com/files/119/106%20of%202000/100_0882%20small.JPG
http://bsprogs.com/files/119/106%20of%202000/100_0881%20small.JPG
sv650s
06-25-2006, 07:41 PM
sweet....i say restore the vr4 as a dedicated track car
Sleepr awd
06-27-2006, 11:39 AM
^^ with a bent frame on a unibody chassis, it is unrestorable. it is going to get junked with it's spirit living on in the GGSX
CassiesMan
07-07-2006, 11:58 AM
^^ with a bent frame on a unibody chassis, it is unrestorable. it is going to get junked with it's spirit living on in the GGSX
Not to mention we got bored when Stu came over and started hitting the front windshield with hammers...
Not to mention we got bored when Stu came over and started hitting the front windshield with hammers...
Sleepr awd
07-10-2006, 08:01 PM
he sure did, what a n00b,
he is rebuilding my engine though... soo... uhh... i can't complain too much!
he is rebuilding my engine though... soo... uhh... i can't complain too much!
Sleepr awd
07-11-2006, 07:45 PM
ok interior is in and it looks freaking AWESOME except for the small tumor my dash has just grown...
it's ok, i'll figure out how to undo it
oh yeah, engine gets rebuilt later this week and monday i'm putting everything back together. that gives me... the next 3-4 days to get the rear end swapped and brakes swapped over.
it's ok, i'll figure out how to undo it
oh yeah, engine gets rebuilt later this week and monday i'm putting everything back together. that gives me... the next 3-4 days to get the rear end swapped and brakes swapped over.
Sleepr awd
07-13-2006, 11:46 PM
Interior is in the Galant GSX, the leather seats are incredibly comfortable, and the musty smell has finally subsided after frequent treatments. might also have something to do with the car being used by smokers..
Engine(s) leave my house sunday and by monday afternoon should be re-assembled. I got a head set and oil pan gasket from o'reilly's and i just received the ARP head studs via fed ex this afternoon.
I'm also going to go purchase another set of jackstands so i can get the rear ends out of both cars and finally get the car setup to run. new Brake hoses, o2 sensor, and battery and it'll start right up by wednesday.
nothing better than a slightly quick 4door turbo awd and ready for some ricers
Engine(s) leave my house sunday and by monday afternoon should be re-assembled. I got a head set and oil pan gasket from o'reilly's and i just received the ARP head studs via fed ex this afternoon.
I'm also going to go purchase another set of jackstands so i can get the rear ends out of both cars and finally get the car setup to run. new Brake hoses, o2 sensor, and battery and it'll start right up by wednesday.
nothing better than a slightly quick 4door turbo awd and ready for some ricers
blk_srt
07-14-2006, 01:47 AM
What exactly is the difference between a vr4 and a gsx?
Sleepr awd
07-14-2006, 05:54 PM
besides the drivetrain orientation, ... i think it was everything.
wiring harness is dif. (90 vs. 91), brakes are larger on the vr4, final drive is dif., engine is turbo as opposed to n/t, wheels, sideskirts, front grill, transmission. rumor as well, that the front mount is mounted slighly dif., but i'm using the n/t block with turbo internals so i automatically remedied that.
if you don't have both cars i wouldn't recommend a swap, but that doesn't mean it can't be done. luckily i got them both.
wiring harness is dif. (90 vs. 91), brakes are larger on the vr4, final drive is dif., engine is turbo as opposed to n/t, wheels, sideskirts, front grill, transmission. rumor as well, that the front mount is mounted slighly dif., but i'm using the n/t block with turbo internals so i automatically remedied that.
if you don't have both cars i wouldn't recommend a swap, but that doesn't mean it can't be done. luckily i got them both.
vanilla gorilla
07-14-2006, 11:11 PM
Cool project. Are the rims from the VR4 bent? If not you should definately put them on the gsx
Sleepr awd
07-15-2006, 01:28 AM
i def. plan on it and they were checked the day after the accident. it is literally a miracle it wasn't bent b/c the stupid person hit exactly on the wheel. I think i may need to get some paint and re-paint them some and polish up the lip since they are not polished like they were from the factory. and that was the smallest of the issues the car had back then!!!
paint is cheap at work, so is practically every car part i get. brand new bosch o2 sensor was like... 45$
and i think the GSX wheels are being sold as well.
paint is cheap at work, so is practically every car part i get. brand new bosch o2 sensor was like... 45$
and i think the GSX wheels are being sold as well.
19psiMechanic
08-25-2006, 04:08 PM
get it running yet? how is it?
Sleepr awd
09-04-2006, 01:52 PM
:rofl:
its a dsm, they never run!!
sorry but money and unnaccountable people have pushed this back quite a bit.... mostly the unnaccountable people, but if it takes much longer i'll have some aftermarket goodies already installed on this bish..... like a nice painted fmic and some hard piping.
that'll be if it takes another month though, not anytime soon. or if someone buys this n/t longblock and someone else gets the trans/drive/rear dif. otherwise it'll just stay stock. i'll get pics and stuff when it is all done, and it is almost to the point where a "sneak peak" might be given soon.
its a dsm, they never run!!
sorry but money and unnaccountable people have pushed this back quite a bit.... mostly the unnaccountable people, but if it takes much longer i'll have some aftermarket goodies already installed on this bish..... like a nice painted fmic and some hard piping.
that'll be if it takes another month though, not anytime soon. or if someone buys this n/t longblock and someone else gets the trans/drive/rear dif. otherwise it'll just stay stock. i'll get pics and stuff when it is all done, and it is almost to the point where a "sneak peak" might be given soon.
Sleepr awd
09-06-2006, 02:55 PM
Sleepr awd
09-13-2006, 12:45 PM
bought some cheezits to eat in the car
http://bsprogs.com/files/119/new%20intercooler%20small.JPG
http://bsprogs.com/files/119/new%20intercooler%20small.JPG
Blackcrow64
09-15-2006, 12:23 AM
Sounds like a fun little project. Sorry I missed your thread before man. I usually don't get out of the DSM section much. lol
I like the intercooler. Did you just paint it black or did you have it powdercoated?
I like the intercooler. Did you just paint it black or did you have it powdercoated?
Sleepr awd
09-17-2006, 02:30 AM
not sure... it came that way! looks powdercoated though, it just might be a flat black. either way it works and shouldn't impede it's efficiency by more than 2%
Blackcrow64
09-24-2006, 02:49 AM
Yeah, it shouldn't hurt its effectiveness much at all. I just love how it looks though... Maybe I should do something like that with mine too. lol
NateS
09-29-2006, 05:56 PM
Haha niice. I like the pic. Good luck with your project.
Sleepr awd
10-04-2006, 12:51 PM
ok , so i bought another 4g63t motor w/ a gvr4 trans. pulled it out of number 1198 or something like that. got it all for 400$, but the engine runs on only two cylinders!!!
problem is... i only needed the block. and i actually had to go help pull it out and haul it back... that was the longest day in history
oh well, almost 2 motors worth of stuff can't hurt much!!
problem is... i only needed the block. and i actually had to go help pull it out and haul it back... that was the longest day in history
oh well, almost 2 motors worth of stuff can't hurt much!!
Blackcrow64
10-14-2006, 06:49 PM
Sounds like me now... Got my 6 and 7 bolt laying here...
Sleepr awd
10-18-2006, 10:53 PM
:rofl:
motor is going to be on its way in this weekend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
motor is going to be on its way in this weekend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Blackcrow64
11-01-2006, 07:58 PM
So is your project done yet? lol Mines finally moving along again. Should be done before the 1st of the year. :)
Sleepr awd
11-14-2006, 02:07 PM
no it isn't f000ing done yet.
but, the engine is in the car, and the rear end is getting swapped over TODAY we took a lunch break, and the bastards that were supposed to have been helping me ARENT so it is just me and my friend from down the street who is perhaps the greatest friend ever!
but we know nothing about what we are taking apart, then putting back together, so i guess we'll see about how this whole deal works out!
but, the engine is in the car, and the rear end is getting swapped over TODAY we took a lunch break, and the bastards that were supposed to have been helping me ARENT so it is just me and my friend from down the street who is perhaps the greatest friend ever!
but we know nothing about what we are taking apart, then putting back together, so i guess we'll see about how this whole deal works out!
Blackcrow64
11-20-2006, 01:59 AM
Awesome, my motor is finally getting machined and will be assembled soon. I'm very excited for everybodys projects getting closer and closer to completion. :)
Blackcrow64
01-18-2007, 03:01 AM
Any updates on your project?
Sleepr awd
02-14-2007, 02:00 PM
my update is i have everything, but the injectors aren't getting any signal so they will fire. so hence i'm stuck...
i'm working on getting an evo9 fuel pump though for a later upgrade for ~30 bucks
i'm working on getting an evo9 fuel pump though for a later upgrade for ~30 bucks
DemonZX
03-01-2007, 10:51 PM
Nice bro! Good to find someone else going through the Galant VR-4 build/headache!:banghead:
J/k haha!
Hell yeah keep in touch we can share do'd & don'ts and are experiences to maybe help each other along! Right now mine won't idle right, and I get fuel cut at about 3800 RPM. So, I'm thinking it's just a timing issue. There are large race cams on, and I think the timing is just jacked, what do you think?:naughty:
J/k haha!
Hell yeah keep in touch we can share do'd & don'ts and are experiences to maybe help each other along! Right now mine won't idle right, and I get fuel cut at about 3800 RPM. So, I'm thinking it's just a timing issue. There are large race cams on, and I think the timing is just jacked, what do you think?:naughty:
DemonZX
03-01-2007, 11:09 PM
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Ok don't make fun of the shift boot, when I put on the short shifter the original boot did not fit, so...why not?!:grinyes:
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This is not installed yet, but one day...
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d98/stailmonkey/IMG_0123sm.jpg
Hope you enjoy these pictures, if you have any questions feel free to ask!:smokin:
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http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d98/stailmonkey/IMG_0119sm.jpg
Ok don't make fun of the shift boot, when I put on the short shifter the original boot did not fit, so...why not?!:grinyes:
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d98/stailmonkey/IMG_0118sm.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d98/stailmonkey/IMG_0114sm.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d98/stailmonkey/IMG_0124sm.jpg
This is not installed yet, but one day...
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d98/stailmonkey/IMG_0123sm.jpg
Hope you enjoy these pictures, if you have any questions feel free to ask!:smokin:
Sleepr awd
03-03-2007, 10:59 PM
cute turbo ;)
Sleepr awd
08-17-2007, 08:36 PM
it lives, drives and has plates...
who wants some111!!!!1!!!?????
who wants some111!!!!1!!!?????
Sleepr awd
01-04-2008, 06:45 PM
king at fabbing some evo 8 suspension
The car runs and drives
Boosting 12 lbs
leaking an unknown fluid oil or trans fluid but I cannot find the leak and I have done a couple exploratory surgeries but no leads. It leaks somewhat quickly but I can drive it around for a few days before any concerns arise
put in a act 2100 clutch during one surgery and replaced the rear main seal and cover.
feels good but even driving responsibly I only get shy of 18 mpg
The car runs and drives
Boosting 12 lbs
leaking an unknown fluid oil or trans fluid but I cannot find the leak and I have done a couple exploratory surgeries but no leads. It leaks somewhat quickly but I can drive it around for a few days before any concerns arise
put in a act 2100 clutch during one surgery and replaced the rear main seal and cover.
feels good but even driving responsibly I only get shy of 18 mpg
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