Six wheeled supercar.
BullDog71ss
06-20-2006, 11:31 PM
Mr Wiggl3s
06-20-2006, 11:39 PM
Huh... looking forward to reading this
I see, so there not going for speed as much as safty. I would like some tech. specs on it
I see, so there not going for speed as much as safty. I would like some tech. specs on it
BullDog71ss
06-20-2006, 11:50 PM
What's even stranger than a car with 6 wheels? How about a car with 6 of these wheels.
http://www.gizmag.com/go/3603/
Very cool stuff.
http://www.gizmag.com/go/3603/
Very cool stuff.
BullDog71ss
06-20-2006, 11:51 PM
Huh... looking forward to reading this
I see, so there not going for speed as much as safty. I would like some tech. specs on it
Actually they are going for speed. With the added grip, corner entering and exiting speeds can be increased, as well as braking capabilities.
I see, so there not going for speed as much as safty. I would like some tech. specs on it
Actually they are going for speed. With the added grip, corner entering and exiting speeds can be increased, as well as braking capabilities.
streetrcr45
06-21-2006, 12:08 AM
Actually they are going for speed. With the added grip, corner entering and exiting speeds can be increased, as well as braking capabilities.
true however when you compare that to other supercars or just a corvette..it said its only pushing under 400 hp...and only 300km/h? just doesn't seem like the six wheels are gonna make up for a car that is underpowered like that.
true however when you compare that to other supercars or just a corvette..it said its only pushing under 400 hp...and only 300km/h? just doesn't seem like the six wheels are gonna make up for a car that is underpowered like that.
BullDog71ss
06-21-2006, 12:51 AM
true however when you compare that to other supercars or just a corvette..it said its only pushing under 400 hp...and only 300km/h? just doesn't seem like the six wheels are gonna make up for a car that is underpowered like that.
It's really just a test model for advancing the platform I'd say. Once they figure out exactly what they can and cant do with it, then they'll put something more potent in it. But, if you read the article it has something about a 6 wheeled car winning some races back in the day. So it does seem to have some advantages.
It's also not ment to compete with cars in the 500 hp range. Sort of like how the Porshe 911 wouldnt be in the same level with with those cars.
Also, If you put it up against something that's around it's power level(like a mid level Porshe), it could very well come out on top.
Anyway, I think it's cool just because it's inovative.
It's really just a test model for advancing the platform I'd say. Once they figure out exactly what they can and cant do with it, then they'll put something more potent in it. But, if you read the article it has something about a 6 wheeled car winning some races back in the day. So it does seem to have some advantages.
It's also not ment to compete with cars in the 500 hp range. Sort of like how the Porshe 911 wouldnt be in the same level with with those cars.
Also, If you put it up against something that's around it's power level(like a mid level Porshe), it could very well come out on top.
Anyway, I think it's cool just because it's inovative.
GForce957
06-21-2006, 02:11 AM
6 wheeled awd supercar
70% drivetrain loss!!11
70% drivetrain loss!!11
Musashi3000GT
06-21-2006, 09:19 AM
Those cars have been around for a long time though. Some rich collectors in Europe have already bought a few prototypes. That same company had a production model in the late 80s also with 6 wheels but only sold about 30 cars.
Even if its fwd the drive-train loss would be nutz!
Even if its fwd the drive-train loss would be nutz!
2.2 Straight six
06-21-2006, 09:38 AM
Actually they are going for speed. With the added grip, corner entering and exiting speeds can be increased, as well as braking capabilities.
i read about this a while ago, having an extra axle also allows use of skinnier wheels up front, which reduces the risk of auqa-planing.
i read about this a while ago, having an extra axle also allows use of skinnier wheels up front, which reduces the risk of auqa-planing.
Chiquae07
06-21-2006, 11:16 AM
i really dont wanna pay for 6 tires instead of 4.....
drdisque
06-26-2006, 01:37 AM
Not a new idea, Tyrrell built this in 1976
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/17/Tyrell_6_wheels.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/17/Tyrell_6_wheels.jpg
mason_RsX
06-26-2006, 11:42 AM
6 wheeled awd supercar
70% drivetrain loss!!11
A friend showed me that car in a magazine about 7-8 months ago and thats exactly what I said! It has said it was going to be around 400hp, and I said where? He didn't understand so I told him that 6 wheels AWD with 400hp at the crank will leave you with 65hp by the time it gets to the wheels
But it had asid the vehicle was more for handling than acceleration, and thats where the extra wheels benefitted the car
70% drivetrain loss!!11
A friend showed me that car in a magazine about 7-8 months ago and thats exactly what I said! It has said it was going to be around 400hp, and I said where? He didn't understand so I told him that 6 wheels AWD with 400hp at the crank will leave you with 65hp by the time it gets to the wheels
But it had asid the vehicle was more for handling than acceleration, and thats where the extra wheels benefitted the car
-The Stig-
06-26-2006, 01:48 PM
I would think the extra wheels add to the overall weight of the car... and have too much grip.
There is such a thing... could cause a form of uber understeer... or over steer.
I mean, six wheels has been tried before, and it didn't work in racing. I think that's proof enough.
There is such a thing... could cause a form of uber understeer... or over steer.
I mean, six wheels has been tried before, and it didn't work in racing. I think that's proof enough.
CBFryman
06-26-2006, 01:57 PM
true however when you compare that to other supercars or just a corvette..it said its only pushing under 400 hp...and only 300km/h? just doesn't seem like the six wheels are gonna make up for a car that is underpowered like that.
NSX comeats with with the top supercars because what it lacks in power it makes up for in neutral handleing an the ability to enter and exit corners faster and hit the apex sooner pushing other supercars to the outside and behind.
How often is a car going to need to go 300km/h?
NSX comeats with with the top supercars because what it lacks in power it makes up for in neutral handleing an the ability to enter and exit corners faster and hit the apex sooner pushing other supercars to the outside and behind.
How often is a car going to need to go 300km/h?
-The Stig-
06-26-2006, 02:04 PM
How often is a car going to need to go 300km/h?
Pfb.. my work is 6 miles away, I need a car that'll do 186mph...
What? I like to sleep in... fast car lets me sleep in as long as possible... should roughly get me to work in a minute and half. :grinno:
Pfb.. my work is 6 miles away, I need a car that'll do 186mph...
What? I like to sleep in... fast car lets me sleep in as long as possible... should roughly get me to work in a minute and half. :grinno:
CassiesMan
06-26-2006, 03:20 PM
How often is a car going to need to go 300km/h?
Who cares about needing. The fact that it can is what I like. I doub' that 99% of supercar buyers care about needing, they buy it becuase they WANT it. For example, I don't need an E36 M3 with the 1000hp DA Motorsports Turbo kit. I want one. You don't need all that sound stuff you've done to your car, you got it because you want it. If it was about needing, everyone in the world would drive a Prius or Insight.
Who cares about needing. The fact that it can is what I like. I doub' that 99% of supercar buyers care about needing, they buy it becuase they WANT it. For example, I don't need an E36 M3 with the 1000hp DA Motorsports Turbo kit. I want one. You don't need all that sound stuff you've done to your car, you got it because you want it. If it was about needing, everyone in the world would drive a Prius or Insight.
-The Stig-
06-26-2006, 03:23 PM
If it was about needing, everyone in the world would drive a Prius or Insight.
Oh dear God no!!!
Oh dear God no!!!
GForce957
06-26-2006, 03:39 PM
Or Luos's WS6
CBFryman
06-26-2006, 03:54 PM
Who cares about needing. The fact that it can is what I like. I doub' that 99% of supercar buyers care about needing, they buy it becuase they WANT it. For example, I don't need an E36 M3 with the 1000hp DA Motorsports Turbo kit. I want one. You don't need all that sound stuff you've done to your car, you got it because you want it. If it was about needing, everyone in the world would drive a Prius or Insight.
ok, how often are you going to be able to get the car to 300 km/h
most tracks dont have a straight long enough to reach 180mph. Most roads arent straight enough or trafficless enough to reach 180mph...
the advantage of this car is it can travle closer to 180mph longer because it has mroe traction to brake faster and can enter the corner at greater speed.
Get your 1000hp bmw...ill wax it in anything but the 1/4 mile...
oh and 70% drivetrain loss, sure, but think of the traction when you let ALL that horsepower loose. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
ok, how often are you going to be able to get the car to 300 km/h
most tracks dont have a straight long enough to reach 180mph. Most roads arent straight enough or trafficless enough to reach 180mph...
the advantage of this car is it can travle closer to 180mph longer because it has mroe traction to brake faster and can enter the corner at greater speed.
Get your 1000hp bmw...ill wax it in anything but the 1/4 mile...
oh and 70% drivetrain loss, sure, but think of the traction when you let ALL that horsepower loose. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
CassiesMan
06-26-2006, 06:23 PM
Get your 1000hp bmw...ill wax it in anything but the 1/4 mile...
I assume you mean with this six wheel thing and not your truck, and even then, I still doubt that this six wheeld terror would be able to hold with anything along the lines of Ferrari, Lambo, Pagani, or an NSX around a track. First off, you would have to have all wheel steering, which from my understanding is useless at anything beyond parking lot speeds, and all wheel drive. The two front sets are to close together for one to turn and one not to, it would negate the one set of wheels turning. I think it would end up having massive understeer in the end of the day, and it would take one hell of a driver to be able to handle it.
Oh, and I really doubt, if I were to get that 1000hp Bimmer, that this car would be able to take it. Or any four wheel supercar. You can go as fast as you want through the turns, but it doesn't matter when you cant catch up in the straights. Handling is important, but don't forget about those straight bits inbetween the turns. Look at it this way. Take an awesome handling 600cc bike, and put it around the track against a Busa. Sure, the 600cc will be able to take a Busa due to the twisties, but the Busa would walk so hard in the straights that it would already be through the turn (that it had to take slower) by the time the 600cc got into the turn. So, assuming that a 1000hp Bimmer couldn't hack the turns (which I doubt, you think I would spend twenty grand on be able to go 240+mph, and not make it able to stop and turn?), I'd still walk that thing so hard in the straights that I would be able to get through the turn before hand.
About going 300km/h? I dunno about where you live, but the entire drive from my house in Texas up to my school in MO is mostly wide open highways, flat, few turns, I dunno how many times I've topped out my car and held it for more than just a few seconds out there. There are plenty of roads all around the US that aren't well known about that you can just drop the hammer and let it all out. The autobahn in Germany as well. Its not about where can you do it, its about do you have the balls to do it. Just becuase you haven't done it doesn't mean it can't be done.
I assume you mean with this six wheel thing and not your truck, and even then, I still doubt that this six wheeld terror would be able to hold with anything along the lines of Ferrari, Lambo, Pagani, or an NSX around a track. First off, you would have to have all wheel steering, which from my understanding is useless at anything beyond parking lot speeds, and all wheel drive. The two front sets are to close together for one to turn and one not to, it would negate the one set of wheels turning. I think it would end up having massive understeer in the end of the day, and it would take one hell of a driver to be able to handle it.
Oh, and I really doubt, if I were to get that 1000hp Bimmer, that this car would be able to take it. Or any four wheel supercar. You can go as fast as you want through the turns, but it doesn't matter when you cant catch up in the straights. Handling is important, but don't forget about those straight bits inbetween the turns. Look at it this way. Take an awesome handling 600cc bike, and put it around the track against a Busa. Sure, the 600cc will be able to take a Busa due to the twisties, but the Busa would walk so hard in the straights that it would already be through the turn (that it had to take slower) by the time the 600cc got into the turn. So, assuming that a 1000hp Bimmer couldn't hack the turns (which I doubt, you think I would spend twenty grand on be able to go 240+mph, and not make it able to stop and turn?), I'd still walk that thing so hard in the straights that I would be able to get through the turn before hand.
About going 300km/h? I dunno about where you live, but the entire drive from my house in Texas up to my school in MO is mostly wide open highways, flat, few turns, I dunno how many times I've topped out my car and held it for more than just a few seconds out there. There are plenty of roads all around the US that aren't well known about that you can just drop the hammer and let it all out. The autobahn in Germany as well. Its not about where can you do it, its about do you have the balls to do it. Just becuase you haven't done it doesn't mean it can't be done.
CBFryman
06-26-2006, 09:40 PM
yadda yadda yadda, ill see you at the track :) :lol:
Im saying, IF it works like the manufacture says (able to enter and exit corners faster and better breaking) and assumeing it doenst handle like a brick, it would be better on MOST tracks assumeing it has decent acceleration...
not many tires can put a whole 1000hp to the ground on unprepped roads :)
and i can run faster through tight/complicated corners than my truck :)
Im saying, IF it works like the manufacture says (able to enter and exit corners faster and better breaking) and assumeing it doenst handle like a brick, it would be better on MOST tracks assumeing it has decent acceleration...
not many tires can put a whole 1000hp to the ground on unprepped roads :)
and i can run faster through tight/complicated corners than my truck :)
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