M3 & STi

Okay, this will be the last thread that i post before I go to the track because I know a lot of you won't even believe this. My mods are as follows, 3" Catback, Intake & TMIC. Check my link for pics.

M3...
2004 M3, exhaust (only known mod)
We go to some back streets with only stop signs.
Guy: "Whats up, lets run em"
Me:"Alright"
Guy: "Let's go from a 20 roll"
Me:"Alright, just go when your ready"
So we hit 20mph and he is staring at his dash and starts to rip. So I over rev in first and lose a bumper hit second, by the top of second I am even with him, by the time I shift into third and go i am a bumper ahead, then we shut down"
Me:"Okay off the line now"
Guy:"No man, you can't do that launching shit then"
Me:"Awww man comon'"
Guy:"Okay ready"
So we go and i slip the clutch at 1500 and launch like a half a car and by the time we shut down i had my car length on him.
Guy:"Thats fucked up man"
Me:"HAHA! I gotta go home man, later"
Sti Race...
I am coming home and i see an impreza that looks like an sti because it has brembos and sti stickers on the doors, but the wing and decklid is shaved. So we are on the freeway, and we are both flooring it to we hit 120 with him coming up from behind me and not gaining much ground. So we get off the freeway and he waves for me to slow down so we can hit the light. We stop and he goes. Sti Guys Mods (Exhaust is all i see)
Sti Guy:"What do you have done to that dude?"
Me:"3" Catback and Intake"
Sti Guy:"Damn that thing is fast, its not an sti right?"
Me:"Nope" (with a big grin)
Sti Guy:"This is an sti"
Me:"You wanna run em"
Sti Guy:"Yea"
I rev to about 4-5k and the light turns green he goes and i launched a second late. (Figures) We floor it to about ninety and i am car behind him the whole way.
Sti Guy:"Damn, whats your name man?"
Me:"MAXXUS (haha, didnt really say that)"
Sti Guy:"Im StiGuy, do you live around here dude?"
Me:"yep right around the corner"
Sti Guy:"Me too"
Me:"Give me your number dude"
So maybe he will be down to mob out to famoso too!! Anyways, those are my stories, one more week and i get solid times

Nice runs, fake or not(I say real, can't really picture ppl going on the net and making up race stories unless they are really conceited or messed up), its still fun to read, so good going:bigthumb:

What is your car rated at power wise?

What is your car rated at power wise?

I would imagine it would dyno at like 218-220 something like that. Because i READ in Import Tuner they put intake and exhaust only on the TR limited and it was running about 218 at the wheels. It ran like 206 stock.

Sorry...
Misworded that.
What was is rated stock from the factory?

Sorry...
Misworded that.
What was is rated stock from the factory?

Horsepower : 230 hp @ 5600 rpm
Torque : 235 lb-ft @ 3600 rpm
Redline : 6500 rpm

That is about what I thought. One would think the STi would pull a little more...but on the street, who knows.

Nice kills.
I wish I could get any races. :lol:

Hmm, from your car domain site it says you have an Ecutec. I believe that's a piggyback system. Considering that, i'm not at all surprised by your races (Though you can't just state exhaust and intake).

Hmm, from your car domain site it says you have an Ecutec. I believe that's a piggyback system. Considering that, i'm not at all surprised by your races (Though you can't just state exhaust and intake).

No those are future mods. Sorry I fixed that so its not confusing.

No those are future mods. Sorry I fixed that so its not confusing.

Somebody is lying about their mods :p To think people were giving you crap when you are running 16psi with a piggyback. Considering your mods you should be running mid to low 13's. Oh, and once again your car doesn't just have intake and exhaust :D

Somebody is lying about their mods :p To think people were giving you crap when you are running 16psi with a piggyback. Considering your mods you should be running mid to low 13's. Oh, and once again your car doesn't just have intake and exhaust :D

Haha, yea but seriously, see how it says future mods. I haven't done those things yet. I am just running TMIC, Exhaust, and Intake. I can't even run 16psi until i install my uppipe. And ecutek wouldnt be a piggy-back, it would be a re-flash because I am getting the car dyno-tuned by xs-engineering. If I was running up&down pipe with the tune I would be able to run 12's.

Haha, yea but seriously, see how it says future mods. I haven't done those things yet. I am just running TMIC, Exhaust, and Intake. I can't even run 16psi until i install my uppipe. And ecutek wouldnt be a piggy-back, it would be a re-flash because I am getting the car dyno-tuned by xs-engineering. If I was running up&down pipe with the tune I would be able to run 12's.
I see on ur car domain that u're planning on getting a turbo timer, that's a complete waste of money for your car, u know that right?

But judgin on ur current mod list and the pics of ur suburb, money is obvously not a factor for you hahahaha.

the sti might be plausable but you pulling a E46 m3 from a roll......uhhhhh I dont know about that one....

the sti might be plausable but you pulling a E46 m3 from a roll......uhhhhh I dont know about that one....

hahaha, i didn't wanna be the first to say.

Also, you outlaunched an M3 at 1500revs? I can barely out launch a toyota camry at 1500rpm....and that's in normal traffic when no one is racing...our imprezas are too heavy to beat anything at 1500revs.

ok all this fast talk about the 06 wrx makes me want to go test one out....I think I might go and do that on my lunch since the subby stealership is two stealerships down from my work anyways....I mean damn I test drove last years model it it was the biggest dissapointment ever.... the cobalt ss's on our lot were faster than that.....did they make them that much faster this year...I mean sti's cant even beat E46 m3's on a roll....so you mean the 06 wrx's are faster than the 05 sti's....or is your car just talented...

ok all this fast talk about the 06 wrx makes me want to go test one out....I think I might go and do that on my lunch since the subby stealership is two stealerships down from my work anyways....I mean damn I test drove last years model it it was the biggest dissapointment ever.... the cobalt ss's on our lot were faster than that.....did they make them that much faster this year...I mean sti's cant even beat E46 m3's on a roll....so you mean the 06 wrx's are faster than the 05 sti's....or is your car just talented...

The 06 WRX is supposedly underrated and is pushing out about 230hp at all 4s. That's the only good explanantion i've heard about why they're so fast. And fast they supposedly are, i've heard all kinds of stories from all kinds of people.

However, I've never heard of them being as fast as Maxxus claims in his threads, i.e. hanging with STi's and beating M3s and pulling 13.6s. But he's gonna prove me wrong, aren't ya buddy? I can't wait to see those timeslips...cos then i think i might have to upgrade.

No offense but STi's ain't anything to brag about stock. I've seen them plenty of times at the track. Redneck beat one, and an M3 in his primarily stock Z28. They can be modded to be plenty quick, but stock, they're nothing to brag about. I mean they run mid 13's at best from what i've seen at the track up here (Actually high 13's). That's with dudes side stepping the clutch.

As for the M3, I dunno. I've never raced one, though Danno and Redneck have. Danno said it was really ugly.

I'll run Maxxus at the strip, and hand him a loss. If I can get access to a video camera i'll videotape us, so you can see how fast he runs. Hopefully he plays it smart and doesn't launch his car at 1500rpms against me, cause i'll be launching at 4K rpms on drag radials.

No offense but STi's ain't anything to brag about stock. I've seen them plenty of times at the track. Redneck beat one, and an M3 in his primarily stock Z28. They can be modded to be plenty quick, but stock, they're nothing to brag about. I mean they run mid 13's at best from what i've seen at the track up here (Actually high 13's). That's with dudes side stepping the clutch.

As for the M3, I dunno. I've never raced one, though Danno and Redneck have. Danno said it was really ugly.

I'll run Maxxus at the strip, and hand him a loss. If I can get access to a video camera i'll videotape us, so you can see how fast he runs. Hopefully he plays it smart and doesn't launch his car at 1500rpms against me, cause i'll be launching at 4K rpms on drag radials.
Are you talking to me? Because I'm not offended at all that you say an STi is not that fast....as long as you're talking about a drag strip:icon16::iceslolan

On a track that's a completely different story.

I can see why Americans are generally disappointed with STis and Evos. That's because you hear from Japan and everywhere else that these things are hell fast. Then you guys get them and take them onto an American highway with a z28 or SRT-10 Viper, step on the gas and wonder where they went.

In a lot of ways, I'm glad America never got the Skyline GTR (another car with a great reputation). I think a large proportion of you all would be highly disappointed with it too. Because it is also just another mid 13s car. Evos and STis are very good competition for GTRs and run very similar track times - especially the Evos (all being stock of course - dollar for dollar in mods a GTR would kill any car).

But a video would be cool...then again, you can make most cars look slow, lol, so i still wanna see his timeslip more.

I see on ur car domain that u're planning on getting a turbo timer, that's a complete waste of money for your car, u know that right?

But judgin on ur current mod list and the pics of ur suburb, money is obvously not a factor for you hahahaha.

Why will it be a waste? Even when the car is re-flashed and everything is installed, it is still pointless?

Why will it be a waste? Even when the car is re-flashed and everything is installed, it is still pointless?
Yes because a turbo timer is designed to give u covenience when letting hte turbo cool down after a run.

Subaru has stated on many occasions from about MY01 onwards, their turbo systems do not need any special treatment to allow the trubo to cool down. In fact, they suggest not running on boost for the last 1-3 min of the trip will be enough to let the turbo cool down. However, most owners like me will wait an additional 30-60seconds inside the car idling before switiching off - because we're paranoid, not because it's necessary.

Of course this is not the case if you are running a bigger turbo which u are clearly not.

However, if you have the money, why not live that luxury life of not having to wait 1 min in ur car before switching the engine off:rolleyes:.

Ask on any Subaru forum and they will tell u that it is a complete waste of money on the modern turbo imprezas to buy a turbo timer on the stock turbo.

Are you talking to me? Because I'm not offended at all that you say an STi is not that fast....as long as you're talking about a drag strip:icon16::iceslolan

On a track that's a completely different story.

I can see why Americans are generally disappointed with STis and Evos. That's because you hear from Japan and everywhere else that these things are hell fast. Then you guys get them and take them onto an American highway with a z28 or SRT-10 Viper, step on the gas and wonder where they went.

In a lot of ways, I'm glad America never got the Skyline GTR (another car with a great reputation). I think a large proportion of you all would be highly disappointed with it too. Because it is also just another mid 13s car. Evos and STis are very good competition for GTRs and run very similar track times - especially the Evos (all being stock of course - dollar for dollar in mods a GTR would kill any car).


some people out there cant belive a factory Caldina GTT wagon can do high 13's.

oh and what year was that M3? cause my mate in in his skyline got burnt off by one of those....

LS1 car stock here = 14.4
STi stock here = 13.5

Both are with good drivers.

Turbo timers are a waste on Subarus.

Launching an STi at 1500 RPM would make it a 16 second car, a WRX would be even worse. That M3 must have been slow as shit.

LS1 car stock here = 14.4
STi stock here = 13.5

Both are with good drivers.


Remember the one I raced? He ran a 14.5 @ 95mph at the track to my 14.4 @ 105mph and that's with a bad clutch that didn't give me 3rd gear. And it's not like the guy didn't launch either, I think he 60'ed at around 1.9-2.0 (compared to my 2.4)... I'll dig up my slip from the track tonight when I get home and varify that.


My Z28 was a shit box... F-body's are nice cars I'm sure, but mine wasn't. Glad it's gone.

[QUOTE=2000LS1Z28]No offense but STi's ain't anything to brag about stock. QUOTE]

well you say sti's arent anything to brag about...then what do you think about regular wrx's....

LS1 car stock here = 14.4
STi stock here = 13.5

Both are with good drivers.

awd helps the 60 foot and thin air doesnt bother turbo cars as much as n/a cars...

awd helps the 60 foot and thin air doesnt bother turbo cars as much as n/a cars...
Oh I know.
But it isn't like they are going to get slower at a lower elevation.
13.5-13.6 here for a turbo car is a lower 13 at sea level.

Must just depend on the driver.

yup that sounds about right....but most of the sti drivers out there cant drive there car to potential or if afraid too....most of the error falls on the launch...if they could get their lauches down decent times are just a pedal away...and yes I do feel sorry for you guys that are n/a and above sea level....that thin air must kill you guys...lol

NHRA adjusted for just altitude and not weather...my 12.64 was a 11.7 at 124.4. :lol:

Luos I don't see WRX STi's running 13.5 sec. here. Several people at Speedway had them. A few of them were stock. The one's that were stock ran anywhere from a 13.9-14.4 sec. 1/4 mile. A guy from another board I belong to cut a 1.8 sec. 60' and a 13.9 sec. 1/4 mile at 95mph. I dunno if the guys are lying to you about their mods (Most likely). Just a simple reflash of the ECU will get those cars running low 13's/ high 12's, and the mods are not noticeable.

well you say sti's arent anything to brag about...then what do you think about regular wrx's....

Please post where I stated that a regular WRX is something to brag about. IMHO the STi isn't as fast as it should be considering the premium one pays over a run of the mill WRX. The new WRX's are marginally slower. It just seems like a rip off in alot of ways. Then again maybe they have lowered the price of the new STi's, as they are not selling well around here.

I just know what I have seen.
I know two guys that have gotten their stock STi's to mid 13's here. 1.6 60 foots.

1.6 60' time is not the norm. Those are some serious drivers, with most likely an aftermarket clutch.

:lol:
I know I sound like I am repeating myself here.
But I personally know both drivers.
Cars were completely stock.

They have not gained all that much ET with minor mods though.

Oh you guys are gonna like this too, the guy just told me his mod list. Catback 3", HKS BOV, and ECU-reflash. Then he went on to tell me when we were on the freeway going 120 i was really giving him a run for his money. Anyways, I can't wait to go the track. Btw RJG your gonna like the way my time slip looks.

13's for the STI.:smokin:

Oh you guys are gonna like this too, the guy just told me his mod list. Catback 3", HKS BOV, and ECU-reflash. Then he went on to tell me when we were on the freeway going 120 i was really giving him a run for his money. Anyways, I can't wait to go the track. Btw RJG your gonna like the way my time slip looks.


Oi, mate... stop using two different screen names. You've had plenty of time to sort it out.

Use one, and only one.

1.6 60' time is not the norm. Those are some serious drivers, with most likely an aftermarket clutch.

Dude, if the STi's in ur area are running 13.9-14.4 the drivers can't drive for shit, it's as simple as that.

I have no idea what u're referring to with the atermarket clutch. the WRX has the glass tranny. The 6 speed STi's trannys are bulletproof up to about 500hp. They can take a lot of high rpm launches. I think the STi's u see in ure area are WRXs with stickers :cwm27::p

Please post where I stated that a regular WRX is something to brag about. IMHO the STi isn't as fast as it should be considering the premium one pays over a run of the mill WRX. The new WRX's are marginally slower. It just seems like a rip off in alot of ways. Then again maybe they have lowered the price of the new STi's, as they are not selling well around here.

you totally missed my point...Im not saying you said wrx's are something to brag about...Im saying that if you dont think sti's arent anything to brag about then I wonder how you feel about a lesser car such as the wrx....

2000LS1Z28, I hardly consider the STi's extra money over the WRX a premium. The brembos and 6 speed are worth well more than the difference. You gotta stop thinking of the WRX as a detuned STi, it's a turboed impreza. The STi is in its own league.

But since you purely judge these cars on 1.4 mile times, I guess you'll never see the real diffference between them. Take them both around some tight corners and you'll see what I mean by the STi being in a league of it's own from the WRX.

And for the record Using an Impreza for drag or basing its merits heavily on it's 1.4 mile times is just dumb.

Dude, if the STi's in ur area are running 13.9-14.4 the drivers can't drive for shit, it's as simple as that.

I have no idea what u're referring to with the atermarket clutch. the WRX has the glass tranny. The 6 speed STi's trannys are bulletproof up to about 500hp. They can take a lot of high rpm launches. I think the STi's u see in ure area are WRXs with stickers :cwm27::p


Well, where our track is, there is a bit of altitude, so all the cars run slower regardless of what they are or what they should run.

That's what he's refering too.

Well, where our track is, there is a bit of altitude, so all the cars run slower regardless of what they are or what they should run.

That's what he's refering too.

oh ok...that just puts everything out of whack, lol. :lol:

Altitude doesn't make ANY difference.

Altitude doesn't make ANY difference.

:banghead: oh yeah, we talking about turbo cars! the altitude should make a very small diff on the STi's times.

Oi, mate... stop using two different screen names. You've had plenty of time to sort it out.

Use one, and only one.

Sorry, fixed it. WTF is this thing about stis doing 1/4 miles @ 13.5, i have seen them do them 13.1 bone stock. Arent the big diff's from the stis valve train/tranny/suspension? @ least for the 06's. (interior shit doesnt count for me)

The track me and Stig went to has you run into the wind and the sun. It is currently being revamped. Most cars run 3 tenths slower there due to those conditions and hot weather.

I don't think of the WRX as a threat 1/4 mile wise 209 SRT.

Right Ltr, I owned a 2003 Evo. I know what a good handling car feels like. However you probably haven't driven a powerful rear wheel drive LS1 or LS2 car. The power is more immediate. There is no turbo lag.

The track me and Stig went to has you run into the wind and the sun. It is currently being revamped. Most cars run 3 tenths slower there due to those conditions and hot weather.

I don't think of the WRX as a threat 1/4 mile wise 209 SRT.

Right Ltr, I owned a 2003 Evo. I know what a good handling car feels like. However you probably haven't driven a powerful rear wheel drive LS1 or LS2 car. The power is more immediate. There is no turbo lag.

I know that v8's power is much more linear and immediate...however, I don't see how that has anything to do with what i was saying.

And maxxus, you forgot the brakes! they cost quite a pretty penny. Also, you forget the STi has almost completely diff ECU maps from the WRX.

[QUOTE=2000LS1Z28]

I don't think of the WRX as a threat 1/4 mile wise 209 SRT.

QUOTE]

you shouldnt think the WRX is a threat if you dont even think the STI is anything to brag about...thats what Im trying to say....but you started talking about the STI when the story is about a WRX....get what Im saying...

lets see a side by side comparo between the WRX and the STI from MSRP to HP and TQ specs......

This (http://www.redbookasiapacific.com/au/vehicle/comparespecs.php?key2=SUBA06AM&key=SUBA06AN&new=1) is Australian...but we're better :P

Altitude doesn't slow down ANY cars. :lol:
I would know.

Sometimes I love reading these conversations. You can always kinda tell who owns/likes what type of car.

[QUOTE=2000LS1Z28]

I don't think of the WRX as a threat 1/4 mile wise 209 SRT.

QUOTE]

you shouldnt think the WRX is a threat if you dont even think the STI is anything to brag about...thats what Im trying to say....but you started talking about the STI when the story is about a WRX....get what Im saying...

Huh, the story is about a WRX racing a WRX STi and a M3. Did you read the story?

This is Australian...but we're better :P

Ya'll did beat the original car makers Japan in futbol today, so technically your right. But just wait until you face off Brazil.

Ya'll did beat the original car makers Japan in futbol today, so technically your right. But just wait until you face off Brazil.

i will shit my pants if brazil loses...








seriously... ill build a log cabin right in my trousers.

Ya'll did beat the original car makers Japan in futbol today, so technically your right. But just wait until you face off Brazil.

hahahaha

I hate the Aust football team. I highly dislike the way they play the game. They lack many basic skills. Jap played crap too so they made each other look good.

I'm supporting Brazil and England this Cup.

The USA Czeck game was good to watch though. Both teams are great to watch. Such a good contrast against the Aust Jap game.

I'm glad there are football fans on here.

so does anyone know how the weather is going to be like this weekend...

so does anyone know how the weather is going to be like this weekend...

since we are talking about soccer...

who cares, the world cup is on...

:lol:

so whos going to watch tokyo drift on friday....

ooohh... maybe if it rains itll be easier for everyone to go drifting after teh movie.

nahhh all you need is a FWD car with 105hp and drift stickers......

Hijacked!