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FourthGenHatch
07-29-2002, 08:59 PM
Yesterday I installed new Brake Rotors (so keep in mind I know how to get that far) but I wasn't able to Torque the stuff down right because I had the wrong wrench. So today I got the right wrench and went back and the driver side was fine and I Torqued it all properly, then while I was trying to get my passenger side front wheel off one of the lugs wouldn't come off, and then I used a breaker bar on it and it snap the wheel stud, but I really had no choice. Now I have one problem which is that the lug/wheel stud won't come right out, but it will shake around, what could be holding it in? The hole in the Rotor? But I think I might have a shop try and get that off. But I rather save the money and see if I can replace the stud myself. Now I know how to get everything to the brake rotors off, if I also undid the spindle nut before hand, would it be easy to get the hub part off and switch out the wheel stud? Any ideas!?

gunnmen01
07-29-2002, 09:45 PM
Let me get this straight, the wheel stud broke, but wont come off? Are the lug nut and wheel stud still together? Like maybe it just snapped the teeth that hold the stud from turning when you put a lug nut on?
I've had a wheel do that, i had to drill a hole in the lugnut/wheel stud to weaken it and take it out with a air hammer.



gunnmen01

FourthGenHatch
07-29-2002, 09:51 PM
See what I think happened, is when the stud snapped the ends got all shredded up. I am 100% positive the stud is broken, I can move it all around, and pull it out like 1'' but it won't come out all the way. I believe that when it snapped the ends bent and it is being held behind the rotor. I am having a mechanic friend take care of that part as I cannot get the wheel off with that thing still on there, and yes the broken end and lugnut's teeth are mashed together, and it's not going anywhere.

Mostly what I need to know is how I would install a new stud. And what I need to take off to get to it. From looking at Chiltons diagrams It would appear I would need to remove the spindle nut, calipers, rotors, and all that to get to this hub and possibly remove it. Other people tell me I can leave it on, but I don't understand how that would work.

gunnmen01
07-29-2002, 10:35 PM
If i'm correct once you have the rim off you can turn the hub until the back of the lug is clear of the knuckle and drive it out with a hammer. Then to snug it in, push it in by hand then put a few washers on the stud, tighten the lug by hand till you draw the stud in tight. torqueing the wheel down should finish drawing it in completely.


gunnmen01

FourthGenHatch
07-29-2002, 10:44 PM
U think I should just try to drill out that part with the lug attached to it?

Ebranste
07-30-2002, 02:41 AM
You dont want to say the word 'drill' in this case :)

Drilling is not necessary. Pull off the rotor and You'll get a better view of the rear of the hub. Tap out the broken stud with the hammer. What's holding it in is the flared out edges from the rear. To install a new stud, buy one from the local auto parts store, shave a side of the rear of the stud and pass it in the hole from the rear....then line up the grooves and either tap it in from the rear or pull it all the way through like mentioned.

FourthGenHatch
07-30-2002, 09:44 AM
I'm going to have to drill out the broken part to get the lug off because as long as it's on I CANNOT get the wheel off the car. But one all that is taken care of I think I can do this. Nothing is ever as hard as people make it out to be.

Ebranste
07-30-2002, 09:56 AM
OK, I think maybe I misunderstood...but here's my take on your issue.

The problem sounds like when you were taking the lug nuts off the passenger side, one was crossthreaded and you porked it off taking the top half of the lug stud with it inside the lug nut. Is this right?

If it is right and you have removed the 3 remaining lugs, then it sounds like the wheel it heat frozen to the rotor which is what is keeping it on....not the broken stud. This happens on cars alot when the wheel has been torqued on too tight for a long period of time without being removed for whatever reason.

To break it free, just jack the wheel off the ground with the lugs off and kick the top of the tire with the heel of your foot. That usually does the trick.

BullShifter
07-31-2002, 12:47 AM
dont drill it

darolh
07-31-2002, 10:51 AM
It sounds ugly but you might try splitting the nut if you can get enoughaccess to do it.

I grease my studs ot avoid this mess.

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