Ws6

I wasn't looking for a new car to get ride of my truck but after this deal I'm thinking about it. My girlfriends uncle is selling his 1998 WS6, it has 22,000 miles on it. He is always gone on business so that is why it has no miles on it. Also he just had a kid and that is not a family car so he said he would sell it to me for $14,000 and is willing to flex a little bit. It has leather, t-tops, cd player, premium sound, auto, Flowmaster exhaust, corvette rims and is in perfect conditon. What do you guys think of this deal? Here is a picture of it.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/Steve_q/ws6.jpg

nice, if you have the cash I say take it, that is a beautiful car..

dude dont let that deal go. That is better than a great deal. 22K miles WS6 for only $14K. It looks to be in great shape from the pic, cause it has 22K miles. If you want it go and get it. Its low miles, great shape, GREAT GREAT PRICE, and you know it hasnt been beaten the shit out of since its your g/f's uncle.

First thing....ditch the flowmasters. :grinyes:


Sounds like a pretty decent deal. Those wheels are begging for a drop, but that is pretty simple stuff.
Looks like a nice car!!

So, what is there exactly to think about? Jump all over that thing, what a great deal. 22K on it, that's less than 4K a year. I think its a great investment. Plus it looks decent enough.

Looks like an awesome deal to me. For the price you can't go wrong. Heck, list it on ebay and see if you can get more for it :D

Like the color and the rims.

Beware of the power of that car, especially in the snow.

what is your uncles phone number or e-mail address?













j/k :lol: :lol:

hahaha. nice ..yeah its a nice price be just be sure you wanna spend that much..i got my 97 SS for 7K...it DOES have 80K more miles..but hell. miles..shmiles :D im hoping this baby lasts past 200!

hahaha. nice ..yeah its a nice price be just be sure you wanna spend that much..i got my 97 SS for 7K...it DOES have 80K more miles..but hell. miles..shmiles im hoping this baby lasts past 200!

7k huh? i got my '95 for 6k and it had 83,000..but yours is the SS so thats probably why it was more..

Go for it man, before someone else makes a run for it.
Illinois, right? Wonder how much a plane ticket is to there..

I was planning on if I bought it to drop it down a little. Personally I like flowmaster so I'll probably keep them.

lower it? Your gonna bottom out on every non flat surface, I've seen it happen even on stock height TA's..

I use to have a Firebird and been around f-bodies all the time. I know how bad they bottom out, but it you drive them right, then you won't.

That is one good deal that your uncle is givin ya kid. Go for it!

lower it? Your gonna bottom out on every non flat surface, I've seen it happen even on stock height TA's..
Mine is lowered 1.5".
Haven't scraped anything.

Nothing wrong with how Flowmasters sound....it has to do with the serious lack of flow.

lets just say if you dont buy it im gonna hunt you down and slap you. BUY IT!!!!!

l think T/As looks a lot better when they are lowered. if l get one l will lover too..

haha i lover my car too ;]

Stock ride height....
http://www.arbybean.com/ar/images/March01.JPG

Eibach ProKit (1.5" drop)
http://home.comcast.net/~mrluos/drop05.JPG



As mentioned before, I have had NO problems with the ride height. Have not scraped anything to date.
The rear wheels really looks different between the pics.

As mentioned before, I have had NO problems with the ride height. Have not scraped anything to date.
The rear wheels really looks different between the pics.

I think it depends on how often its driven, cause yours isn't your daily driver so you probably don't run into to many uneven surfaces..

Has 1500 miles in 3 months.

Nothing scraped.

Has 1500 miles in 3 months.

Nothing scraped.

Come on over to Los Angeles, trust me it will scrape :evillol:

You make it sound like we have great roads here. :lol:

The car simply has everything tucked up nicely. I back out on a sloped curb...still never scraped.

1500 in 3 months..nice I go 1800 in 2 :grinyes:

Thats a DAMN Good deal. I will have to beat u if u didnt go for it

i paid 13,500 for my 01 firebird 3.8L V6. It was worth it though. 30k miles, 1 owner who didnt smoke and was a 30 year old lady(didnt beat it) and all leather interior and near mint condition. I dont regret it.
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/2353000-2353999/2353438_1_full.jpg
Cheapest TA in my area was 20k...definetly jump on that deal ;)

wow, thats some xp TA's O_O not only is it a TA its also a WS6!! thats sweet :D i love that frickin intake. it looks meaner (Sad to admit it..) than my SS!

hmm i wonder if my ta would look better with the @$$ end jacked up just a little more...what do you guys think? cool or a little on the wtf...side

hmm i wonder if my ta would look better with the @$$ end jacked up just a little more...what do you guys think? cool or a little on the wtf...side

i think you need the gold phoenix decal on the hood: 100% phatness:smokin:

and 97sle that's a pretty sharp lookin ride,, i'd pay that for it assuming there's no major problems. and if he's "flexible" then i bet you could get him down to $13.5k or so. either way let us kno what you end up doin :thumbsup:

Mine is lowered 1.5".
Haven't scraped anything.

Nothing wrong with how Flowmasters sound....it has to do with the serious lack of flow.


What do you mean Lous? They are the masters of flow...get it? Get it? Haha......oh wait, I'm still holding my side....haha haha. Cmmm (clear throat)....SORRY. I'll go back to the Mustang site now.

But seriously, what's wrong with the way they flow? Is it the 3-chambers or 2-chambers that you don't like? Or is it all of them? I'm not doubting you but, where did you get that info. on them? What mufflers do you prefer more for sound and flow?

Flowmasters don't flow.
They are one of the worst performing mufflers.

As I understand it, it is overall. Any of their mufflers.
If I could find the flow chart I would....but I am being lazy tonight.
Maybe later on.

If he's flexable, offer him $12,000 then he'll say $13,500, then you say I'll meet you halfway at $13,000. Or just act the poor kid part and only go up too 12,500 and say that's all you can get from the bank.

I like Magnaflows.

But I am one that would rather have a great flowing muffler over a great sounding car.
But I do prefer the Magnaflow sound over the Flows as well.

Best I could find for right now...
I know there is a chart that shows this also.

Flow test pressure @ 20.3" H2O

Edelbrock 5501 492 scfm 2.25"
Flowmaster 42440 483 scfm 2.25"
Race Magnum Welded 17216 711 scfm 2.25"

Edelbrock 5511 579 scfm 2.50"
Flowmaster 42540 352 scfm 2.50"
Ultra-Flo SS 17263 1133 scfm 2.50"
Race Magnum Welded 17218 1000 scfm 2.50"
Borla 40600 836 scfm 2.50"

Edelbrock 5505 708 scfm 3.00"
Flowmaster 43040 392 scfm 3.00"
Ultra-Flo SS 17296 2200 scfm 3.00"
Race Magnum Welded 17220 2200 scfm 3.00"
Borla 40450 1400 scfm 3.00"
Borla 40575 1100 scfm 3.00"

Edelbrock 5535 562 scfm 3.50"
Flowmaster 435409 576 scfm 3.50"
Ultra-Flo SS 17268 2200 scfm 3.50"
Race Magnum Welded 17224 2200 scfm 3.50"
Borla 40615 854 scfm 3.50"

Edelbrock 5537 1400 scfm 4.00"
Flowmaster 54040-10 634 scfm 4.00"
Race Magnum Welded 17225 2600 scfm 4.00"
Borla 40741 1450 scfm 4.00"

i had a cat-back w/ a 40-series flowmaster on my grand am and i thought it sounded great for a 6 banger, and the performance increase was there too. certain mufflers just aren't very compatible with certain cars, and f-bodies with an 80-series flowmaster is a prime example. magnaflow or loudmouth is the way to go performance-wise (and sound-wise too imo).

I heard the hooker exhausts are pretty good too, thats what I was thinkin about getting for my car..

i had a cat-back w/ a 40-series flowmaster on my grand am and i thought it sounded great for a 6 banger, and the performance increase was there too. certain mufflers just aren't very compatible with certain cars, and f-bodies with an 80-series flowmaster is a prime example. magnaflow or loudmouth is the way to go performance-wise (and sound-wise too imo).
This wasn't a car specific test. :wink:

I heard the hooker exhausts are pretty good too, thats what I was thinkin about getting for my car..

i kno their headers are pretty good,, dunno many ppl who have the cat-back tho or much about it. would you be gettin hooker lt's along w/ the catback? probly a pretty mean set up.

I have a friend here with the Hooker catback.
Flows well...sounds pretty nice.

Flowmasters don't flow.
They are one of the worst performing mufflers.

As I understand it, it is overall. Any of their mufflers.
If I could find the flow chart I would....but I am being lazy tonight.
Maybe later on.


WHAT THE....?? Find the chart and let me know where you get the info. please. As I said earlier, not doubting you, just like to know where you heard that. I've always heard the opposite.

Never mind, I see it........smartass. I still love the sound of a 5.0 with Flows!!

Never mind, I see it........smartass. I still love the sound of a 5.0 with Flows!!
ya i like how a 5.0 tbi camaro sounds with the flows also,lol.

Best I could find for right now...
I know there is a chart that shows this also.

Quote:
Flow test pressure @ 20.3" H2O

Edelbrock 5501 492 scfm 2.25"
Flowmaster 42440 483 scfm 2.25"
Race Magnum Welded 17216 711 scfm 2.25"

Edelbrock 5511 579 scfm 2.50"
Flowmaster 42540 352 scfm 2.50"
Ultra-Flo SS 17263 1133 scfm 2.50"
Race Magnum Welded 17218 1000 scfm 2.50"
Borla 40600 836 scfm 2.50"

Edelbrock 5505 708 scfm 3.00"
Flowmaster 43040 392 scfm 3.00"
Ultra-Flo SS 17296 2200 scfm 3.00"
Race Magnum Welded 17220 2200 scfm 3.00"
Borla 40450 1400 scfm 3.00"
Borla 40575 1100 scfm 3.00"

Edelbrock 5535 562 scfm 3.50"
Flowmaster 435409 576 scfm 3.50"
Ultra-Flo SS 17268 2200 scfm 3.50"
Race Magnum Welded 17224 2200 scfm 3.50"
Borla 40615 854 scfm 3.50"

Edelbrock 5537 1400 scfm 4.00"
Flowmaster 54040-10 634 scfm 4.00"
Race Magnum Welded 17225 2600 scfm 4.00"
Borla 40741 1450 scfm 4.00"

My gosh. I knew that it flowed like crap, but that's ridiculous. Now i'm wondering if I am down on power or up on it. I added 4.10 gearing to my car after the dyno, but also changed the muffler from a flowmaster to a magnaflow (It's actually a catback exhaust which the previous owner had on the car, so all I had to do was change the muffler).

I'm almost curious enough to dyno my car now. Usually they say that you lose between 5-8whp with 4.10 gearing, but my guess is that the magnaflow will offset that loss. I'll try to find out in January.

I wonder how Dynomax muffs. are. Anyone know?

How do you lose power with gears? They help you get the power to the ground quicker and get you up in the rpm's faster? Please explain, thanks.

You show less on the dyno because it can't read the power properly.
You don't actually lose power.

Well we will see if I lose power. Going to the track Saturday. It'll be my 4th time to the track w/ the WS6 (Countless times with the Evo and former Z28).

Man, I hope I run atleast a 110mph trap speed. Here's hoping.

ya i like how a 5.0 tbi camaro sounds with the flows also,lol.


Uh...yeah, sure, whatever. If you have to have a 5.0 Chevy I'd hope it's a TPI, not a TBI.

hey screw you,lol. it is tbi. tbi can make some good hp if you know what to do with them.

Yeah, I know. I know Holley made a TBI unit that was supposed to be good, and everything else, like bolt-on stuff is just the same. I don't know if the internals are different on TBI/TPI.

You know I had to give you some crap. Cmon, I'm the only regular Ford guy in here, it's my job to give you guys crap. I thank you guys for adopting me....well.....maybe....you guys just tolerate me. Oh well, that's good enough for me. My standards are low. Why do you think I talk to you guys?!

Yeah, I know. I know Holley made a TBI unit that was supposed to be good, and everything else, like bolt-on stuff is just the same. I don't know if the internals are different on TBI/TPI.

You know I had to give you some crap. Cmon, I'm the only regular Ford guy in here, it's my job to give you guys crap. I thank you guys for adopting me....well.....maybe....you guys just tolerate me. Oh well, that's good enough for me. My standards are low. Why do you think I talk to you guys?!
you probly take to us because the ford guys kicked you out,lol. just kidding. the 305 is not staying in long tho. It is getting upgraded with a 355 but still TBI.