need more power for an ls integra

I just bought a 98 ls integra and took it to the track this week. I couldn't get out of the 17's :( (It was my first time) so i want to know what is going to be the best power adder. I've searched for ls/vtec swaps, which some people say is unreliable, so i think i'll go the turbo route. So what turbo is going to be the best and what kind of horsepower and times can i expect?
I've just barely started modding it, Intake and exhaust.
Thanks for your replys

hp to dollar a turbo is definatley the way to go, F Max (http://www.f-max.com/), Rev Hard (http://www.revhard.com/), and Drag (sorry don't have their website) make turbo kits for your Teg. If you go turbo also get a stand alone management system like Hondata. It will look after your engine making sure you get the right amount of fuel for your boost level. Also you will have to upgrade you internals if you goto too high of a boost (I believe if it's over 10psi with Hondata stage 2b you need to replace stock internals not sure though :confused: )

is your car a stick or auto. If its an auto and you don't want to convert then forced induction is the way to go if its a five speed then, start with intake, headers, exhaust, and Ecu tuning. Then from there you can start with internals like building up the head. Cam, Valvetrain, and look into P&Ping the head and port and match the intake manifold. Driving technique is another thing. Track practice will usually add tenths to your time. LS integs are great cars. try getting the power from the engine before just switching it for another one.

You can get the drag turbo kits and www.importparts.com for like 3200

turbos can make your car unreliable too ya know. if you go turbo, make sure you do it RIGHT, no shortcuts. like they mentioned before, you need to upgrade the fuel system. if it were me, i would get forged pistons and rods just to be on the safe side.

Originally posted by Akura_typeRice
start with intake, headers, exhaust, and Ecu tuning. Then from there you can start with internals like building up the head.

the only problem is that he wants mods that add up big power. i/h/e just won't cut it. once he ends up going force induction, those money he wasted on those parts wouldn't be need anymore. i say run the car with 6psi first, then start upgrading the fuel/ignition system, then that hondata system:devil:

17s from a stock LS motor isn't very good. Power it up as you will but I suggest you learn how to run a 1/4 mile first.

Regards,
Spotovi

Thanks for all of your replies guys.
Spotovi, i know 17's aren't that great. It was my first time to the track and i wasn't even planning on running, but there weren't very many guys there, so i decided to try. My best time was 17.00

Akura_typerice, it's a manual. and from what i've read it sounds like it is going to be necessary to build up my engine unless i stay at very low boosts, so i think i'll look into what you suggested.

Gsteg, do you know what kind of times i could expect with 6psi???

Well thank you guys again, and i'll keep practicing my launches.

there is no real way to tell how fast you're gonna run unless you're at the track. my GUESS would be 15's if you learn how to drive. get some unnecessary things out such as spare tire if you can.

Good Luck. :-)

Regards,
Spotovi

next time i go to the track i'll be more prepared. No backseat, no spare, everything i can get out.

I have a 95 ls and my best time is a 15.80. The main things i have are i/h/e. So i think with a turbo and 6psi you should be able to run 14's easily. I have just reciently got a nitrous kit and plan to run it at the track soon I'll probably run a 50 shot which shoold be close to what a turbo should do. I'll post times if this post is still around.
This time was without the chip in the computer.

I was talking about going n/a if it was a stick.

how you quote someone in the bold letters

Don't bother removing your spare tire or back seat. An extra 50 pounds isn't going to make any noticeable difference in the 1/4 mile.

Originally posted by Dr. Love
Don't bother removing your spare tire or back seat. An extra 50 pounds isn't going to make any noticeable difference in the 1/4 mile.

better than nothing. just think of it as a free mod:D

Then go ahead. But I think that the difference in speed will be so insignificant, that it isn't worth the time and effort.

hey man i drive a 97 integra LS 5spd 1st time i ever ran it i ran a 16.0 after a whole exhust system and cold air intake i ran a 15.5 and i could beat Stcuk GSRs in quarter mile easly with headers i ran 15.2 , u need to take the stuff in ur trunk out like spare tire , the wooden thing over it , the carpet and the thing behind the back seat that gose up when u open ur trunk. dont bother to take ur back seats off unless u got leder cuz the back sets weights liek 5LBS total, best thing to do is take out ur pasnger seat , make sure if ur car is lowerd front is lower than back and ur gas should be close to EMPTY. LESS WEIGHT IN UR CAR = FASTER UR CAR RUNS.

wow, acura2fast, you are quite a bit better with your car than i am. This is my first manual, so i'm still getting used to it. Thanks for the advice on the backseat. i hadn't taken it out yet, so i didn't know they were so light.
I will hopefully be going to the track on Friday night, so we'll see how everything goes.

If you want to get more power out of your ls motor there are ways of doing this. Lets just say that if you are really smart about inventing ways of adding more power to your motor then you would be set. Yeah Yeah first things first. Everybody already knows to start with the basic mods Cold air induction, Headers, Cat back exhaust. Now some people don't know to change the Catalytic Converter to a aftermarket converter. Leaving the stock converter makes you lose power. With the cold air induction you want to get AEM's cold air w/ the by pass valve. Dc sports header, Apex cat back exhaust w/ cat. converter. If you are thinking about turbo then you definetly want to build your motor for turbo. Depending on how much boost you are going to push 10lbs of boost or more without building the internals will damage your motor. Rebuild the head and bottom end. Most important part of the motor is the pistons, rods, piston rings, camshafts, cam gears, valves and valve springs. Try to use skunk2, crower, or any titanium internal parts you could find. I did some tweeking to my motor and had a killer integra back in the day. Now I have a 90 to build. The 2000 integra I had was tweeked just right. Lets just say that It was 2000 Acura integra Ls All motor and with a little knowledge in my brain I was able to tweek and run 9.6 in 8th mile at pecan park in florida. That is impressive 9.6 all motor in an 8th mile. I have never seen someone run 17 with a stock ls motor. 14s yes but not 17s. My car basically was stock. no intake, no exhaust, no header, just stock parts. All I did to tweek it was adjust the fuel, ran a computer fan inside the intake real close to the throttle body and ran a hose from behind the seat to the very front of my stock intake for a portable air take full of air which I kept really cold in behind my seat. Works just like nitrous, but without trying to put wear and tear on the motor. After most of the internals are built, get a plug n play mangagement system. Then you want to go with weight reduction. remove as much weight not being used. For instance my car there is only a dash, 2 seats, door panels and the rest was stripped. Hardley any interior. Remove the power steering and the ac. Ac pulls away 35hp from your motor. Power steering I am not sure what hp it takes but it adds a little hp and also with your lowered suspension, turning corners is as easy as pie. if you need to know more ask and I will try to answer. find out the compression ration before adding a turbo. stock compression will not handle turbo over 10lbs of boost and will blow fry your piston rings.

ok i have a question for you hybridintegrags you removed the a/c and got 35hp? i only ask becuase from i understand the a/c works off a clutch system which only put drag on the motor when it turned on and i dont think that even with it on you would lose 35hp?? im not trying to flame just asking a question

a/c pulls away 35 hp? so according to you if i take my a/c out i will gain 140+35=175. hhmmm something is not right here. maybe be it was a typo and what your trying to type was 3-5 hp

I think the main questio should be Why the hell is a post that is 1 1/2 yrs old revived to post B.S?
Please don't do this in the future this post was as dead as dead can be!
And the air tank working just like nitrous huh? Well is the pressure about 800-1000psi? Does the special air inside it release oxygen at 5xx degrees and increase cylinder pressure and provide the extra oxygen neede to burn more fuel to produce more power? Also the computer fan in the intake :rofl::rofl: Go back to the playground, we should have an age requirement :iceslolan

..... find out the compression ration before adding a turbo. stock compression will not handle turbo over 10lbs of boost and will blow fry your piston rings.

You mean you and the mad scienetist will have to tear down the motor and replace the piston rings he fried?
Too much F&F
Sorry had to :evillol:

Now some people don't know to change the Catalytic Converter to a aftermarket converter. Leaving the stock converter makes you lose power.

All I did to tweek it was adjust the fuel, ran a computer fan inside the intake real close to the throttle body and ran a hose from behind the seat to the very front of my stock intake for a portable air take full of air which I kept really cold in behind my seat. Works just like nitrous, but without trying to put wear and tear on the motor.


Aren't you going to tell us how to make an aftermarket cat? Can't just leave me hangin' like that! :frown:

As for the computer fan, I doubt you could fit anything larger than a 60mm chassis fan in there, and some of the most powerful 60mm I've seen only push about 50cfm (yes, take it from a computer geek -- ph33r my 575t3m). I don't that's going to do anything over your stock airflow other than obstruct it. Just leave it stock or get an intake for best results.

And the portable air tank behind your seat? :screwy: Did you drill a hole through the front firewall or did you run in along the front and under the wheel well? Does your car look like the "Back to the Future" Delorian? I doubt an air tank behind your seat holds enough "nitrous air" to satisfy the motor -- cold air doesn't work like nitrous by far.

And fourthly, please don't dreg up a year-old dead post with crazy-talk. Don't be a TV parrot. Read and understand, don't just post with stuff you've heard.