The Egg came before the Chicken!
FlippiN.af
05-26-2006, 06:58 PM
Read.....:icon16:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/britainscienceoffbeat
LONDON (AFP) - Which came first, the chicken or the egg? According to a scientist, a philosopher and a chicken farmer, it was the egg, British newspapers reported.
The key to the age-old question apparently lies in the fact that since genetic material does not change throughout an animal's life, the first bird that evolved into a chicken must have initially existed as an embryo inside an egg.
Professor John Brookfield, from England's University of Nottingham, concluded that because of this, the living organism inside the eggshell would have had the same DNA as the chicken it turned into.
The specialist in evolutionary genetics was quoted in a number of newspapers as saying: "Therefore the first living thing which we could say unequivocally was a member of the species would be this first egg. The egg came first."
Brookfield's conclusion was backed up by Professor David Papineau, of King's College, London, and the chairman of the trade body Great British Chicken, Charles Bourns.
Papineau, an expert in the philosophy of science, argued that the first chicken must have emerged from an egg even though it was laid by a different species of bird, but it was still a chicken egg because it had a chicken in it.
"The conclusion therefore must be that the egg came first and the chicken afterwards," he stated.
Bourns' methodology was not explained in The Times, the Daily Mail and the Independent, who all carried the story.
"Eggs were around long before the first chicken arrived," he affirmed.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/britainscienceoffbeat
LONDON (AFP) - Which came first, the chicken or the egg? According to a scientist, a philosopher and a chicken farmer, it was the egg, British newspapers reported.
The key to the age-old question apparently lies in the fact that since genetic material does not change throughout an animal's life, the first bird that evolved into a chicken must have initially existed as an embryo inside an egg.
Professor John Brookfield, from England's University of Nottingham, concluded that because of this, the living organism inside the eggshell would have had the same DNA as the chicken it turned into.
The specialist in evolutionary genetics was quoted in a number of newspapers as saying: "Therefore the first living thing which we could say unequivocally was a member of the species would be this first egg. The egg came first."
Brookfield's conclusion was backed up by Professor David Papineau, of King's College, London, and the chairman of the trade body Great British Chicken, Charles Bourns.
Papineau, an expert in the philosophy of science, argued that the first chicken must have emerged from an egg even though it was laid by a different species of bird, but it was still a chicken egg because it had a chicken in it.
"The conclusion therefore must be that the egg came first and the chicken afterwards," he stated.
Bourns' methodology was not explained in The Times, the Daily Mail and the Independent, who all carried the story.
"Eggs were around long before the first chicken arrived," he affirmed.
driftinggrifter2
05-26-2006, 07:06 PM
I find it to be truly amazing the improtant things scientist and such are trying to figure out. You know who cares about curing cancer and hiv. Instead lets do a study on goth to suicide ratio, which is first the chicken or the egg. And most importantly where did hiv come from. Which i read was from a chimp, yesterday.
but my theory on the egg thing was shelton from garfield and friends. he came first since he was practicly half of each
but my theory on the egg thing was shelton from garfield and friends. he came first since he was practicly half of each
ThatRoundHeadedKid
05-26-2006, 07:11 PM
I think I would use common sense to answer "egg" for that question.
vwracer14
05-26-2006, 10:52 PM
well if you go by science then yes the egg came first but if you go by religion then God created man and beast so the chicken came first
im very religious so to me the chicken came fisrt but to each is own
im very religious so to me the chicken came fisrt but to each is own
driftinggrifter2
05-26-2006, 10:56 PM
^but the bible never says if he created the beast full grown or new born so it could of just as easily been an egg.
freakray
05-26-2006, 11:04 PM
driftinggrifter2
05-26-2006, 11:13 PM
^i like that one
what is the second one i cant see it
what is the second one i cant see it
stone_mound_camaro
05-27-2006, 12:41 AM
what is the second one i cant see it
egg on chicken action;missionary style
egg on chicken action;missionary style
gouldie1903
05-27-2006, 12:51 AM
if dna is only altered while in the emryo state, and the embryo is in the egg, than would the animal that layed th egg be a chicken?
FlippiN.af
05-27-2006, 01:33 AM
http://humor.xxxcenter.be/content/who_came_first.jpgLmao....that's freakin' hilarious!:rofl:
KustmAce
05-27-2006, 02:44 AM
If the egg came first, who hatched it?
Dont the chickens have to keep the eggs warm for a good amount of time before hatching?
Dont the chickens have to keep the eggs warm for a good amount of time before hatching?
Whumbachumba
05-27-2006, 03:21 AM
If the egg came first, who hatched it?
Dont the chickens have to keep the eggs warm for a good amount of time before hatching?
The question is, how did the egg get there if there wasn't something to lay it, thus causing the animal, in this case a relative of the chicken, to come first.
Dont the chickens have to keep the eggs warm for a good amount of time before hatching?
The question is, how did the egg get there if there wasn't something to lay it, thus causing the animal, in this case a relative of the chicken, to come first.
FlippiN.af
05-27-2006, 04:17 AM
The question is, how did the egg get there if there wasn't something to lay it, thus causing the animal, in this case a relative of the chicken, to come first.But what the article was saying is that something before hatched this one egg to create the Chicken. Maybe it was some relative of the chicken.
RickwithaTbird
05-27-2006, 04:42 AM
The egg was laid, and then the embryo changed into a chicken.
The argument is supported by the fact that DNA will not change after conception. So, some bird had to lay an egg, and out popped a different bird... the chicken. nuckin futz.
The argument is supported by the fact that DNA will not change after conception. So, some bird had to lay an egg, and out popped a different bird... the chicken. nuckin futz.
RickwithaTbird
05-27-2006, 04:43 AM
but wait... does that mean it was a chicken egg? Just cuz it changed into a chicken in the egg, I don't think that necessarily makes it a chicken egg. So if you're asking what came first the chicken or the chicken egg.... its even more complicated.
drunken monkey
05-27-2006, 07:50 AM
how far back would you before you stop calling an egg an egg?
Oz
05-27-2006, 10:01 AM
:gives:
2.2 Straight six
05-27-2006, 11:38 AM
:gives:
exactly, they both taste good so who gives a fuck which came first?
exactly, they both taste good so who gives a fuck which came first?
MonsterBengt
05-27-2006, 01:46 PM
If the egg came first, who hatched it?
Dont the chickens have to keep the eggs warm for a good amount of time before hatching?
maybe some other bird .. ? :screwy:
Dont the chickens have to keep the eggs warm for a good amount of time before hatching?
maybe some other bird .. ? :screwy:
nugundam93
05-27-2006, 02:22 PM
argh. i wonder what laid the egg?
or maybe the egg just popped out of the ground? :lol:
or maybe the egg just popped out of the ground? :lol:
driftinggrifter2
05-27-2006, 02:31 PM
^its no mystery how the egg was first put there........it was the easter bunny
Whumbachumba
05-27-2006, 03:21 PM
Oh, well that just solves everything then. The Easter Bunny brought the egg and another bird hatched it, thus giving us chickens.
Mr Wiggl3s
05-27-2006, 05:11 PM
Who the fuck proforms a scientific study on stupid ass questions like that?
2.2 Straight six
05-27-2006, 05:16 PM
Professor John Brookfield, from England's University of Nottingham. that's who.
FlippiN.af
05-27-2006, 08:30 PM
Professor John Brookfield, from England's University of Nottingham. that's who.:rofl: ..funny suff.
nugundam93
05-28-2006, 05:19 PM
Oh, well that just solves everything then. The Easter Bunny brought the egg and another bird hatched it, thus giving us chickens.
holy smokes batman!
so the easter bunny came first! :icon16:
holy smokes batman!
so the easter bunny came first! :icon16:
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