I finally broke something

I officially broke something on my car, unintentionally but knowingly, I'm so proud of myself. Finally something I broke that I have to fix instead of someone else breaking it before me.

The fuel filter was literally fused to the fuel line. I had all the wrenches set up right and a gas tank near by to catch spills. But I needed more, BRUTE STRENGTH!! This was the only way the filter was coming off. First I moved the gas tank out of the way and got my best breaker bar (pipe) on a crescent wrench that was on the filter itself. The bar held the wrench in place, it was going nowhere. My dad held the bar while my job was to put a shorter breaker bar on the vice grips on the fuel line bolt (It was all my idea XD). I worked the nut and bolt loose, had to take off the grips and turn a few times. It worked! Last hard turn and I hit my hand against the underbody, and that hurt, but the filter was LOOSE. We screwed the filter off and no fuel spilled out, we wondered why. The fuel line must have been clogged. 3 seconds later, the line cracks off from torsion.

Time for a new fuel line (gas tank to filter).

haha have fun with that

Can anyone tell me what the line is called/size and if there may be any other lines attached to this that are clogged? Once again, this is the line between the filter and the gas tank. I looked it up and fine lines sells a steel repro for $65. I think this is the right line, 3/8?

Nice... now doesnt it feel better when you have to fix your own mess ups instead of someone elses?

Nice... now doesnt it feel better when you have to fix your own mess ups instead of someone elses?

Yeah..yeah it kinda does

Haha, I'm never happy when I break stuff :/

oops, didn't see this thread when I replied to the other.

Bend your own line for $4 and some change for any adapters, you can get it preflared too.

oops, didn't see this thread when I replied to the other.

Bend your own line for $4 and some change for any adapters, you can get it preflared too.

It's really that cheap? what am I spending 65 bucks for *throws idea out the window*. Is it the same as making your own brake lines? I succeeded in that but it came out like crap. It works though...So first things first, I have to drain the 16 gal tank, which is thankfully only a quarter full. Any ideas how to drain it, since there's an antisiphon mechanism inside?

Virtualy the same idea as the brakes.

It will be a few bucks more (2 tops) but I just spent $21 to replace 80" worth of line and adapters. And of the $21, $9.50 was brake fluid.

There's only one reason thy call me Quicksilver, because I'm quick as hell at fixing my car (when I have time, and I make myself time for it) I've already almost got the old tank fuel line out, It's coming out easily enough, but I'm not sure how to deal with this weird looking pipe connector thing, hence getting just this line out and replacing it from there.

Does anyone know what connector I'm talking about? Right now it's light green like the Statue of Liberty. How do I get the line out from here?

Does anyone know what connector I'm talking about? Right now it's light green like the Statue of Liberty. How do I get the line out from here?
????........Maybe you should take a pic...
Isnt the origional fuel line aluminum? Why would you replace it with steel?:confused:

????........Maybe you should take a pic...
Isnt the origional fuel line aluminum? Why would you replace it with steel?:confused:

O_O *checks line and takes a picture*

You're right, It is aluminum. Why would repros be steel then? Anyway, I should be able to get the line for cheap but I'm worried there's going to be a lot of customization.

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/358681tank_connectors.jpg

The bottom line is for the fuel. I know you can't see it well but atleast now you know where to look if you have a third gen or you notice this type of connector before. It's like a metal pipe connecting the lines.

Could it be a support?
Since you are going to fabricate the fuel line yourself, why dont you just sectionalize it? Just replace the sections you need to and add some connection points...It would be a lot easier and would be just as good as if you had replaced the whole thing...
Then you can just tell yourself that if you ever have the engine and tranny out, then you can plan on dropping the tank at the same time and fabricate a complete line to replace the origional(that is if you think its necessary...)
What cha think?

Could it be a support?
Since you are going to fabricate the fuel line yourself, why dont you just sectionalize it? Just replace the sections you need to and add some connection points...It would be a lot easier and would be just as good as if you had replaced the whole thing...
Then you can just tell yourself that if you ever have the engine and tranny out, then you can plan on dropping the tank at the same time and fabricate a complete line to replace the origional(that is if you think its necessary...)
What cha think?

At this point in the teardown of the fuel delivery system (sounds smart) We tried to siphon out the rest of the gas and only drops were coming out, which tells me something, there's a partial block in that line and I want to (at the very least) take out that full line and maybe replace it all.

I was going to add something, oh right! I found dirt and even water in the gas so when I figure out how to pull out the line, I'm draining the gas in an oil pan because it probably can't or shouldn't be reused.

Why can't anything be easy...I hit a brick wall

That pipe connector that is sorta green, That is actually a short pipe connector between the fuel line and the rubber line. You can't just pull the line out of those, it may be built with it...I have no clue how to take that apart, or if I even should. HELP!!!

Well...I was just thinking that if you found that stuff in the gas, then you also need to drop the tank, clean it out, and replace the fuel pump and fuel pickup/strainer(which could explain why you couldnt siphon the gas out through the fuel line)...
Once you have the tank out, it may seem easier to remove the fuel lines...

Well...I was just thinking that if you found that stuff in the gas, then you also need to drop the tank, clean it out, and replace the fuel pump and fuel pickup/strainer(which could explain why you couldnt siphon the gas out through the fuel line)...
Once you have the tank out, it may seem easier to remove the fuel lines...

........SH**

I need to think about this. What are the signs that I need a new fuel pump? Is it hard to drop the tank? does it take forever?

Shouldnt take too long...
Dont you have a HAYNES MANUAL? If not, you should get one. It answers a lot of your questions with pick and tells you how to do this step by step.

What I meant was that the sand probably dammaged your fuel pump and it may need to be replaced.

what is your email address? I can scan in the fuel tank stuff and email it too you and that should get you by for now...

what is your email address? I can scan in the fuel tank stuff and email it too you and that should get you by for now...

Don't worry, I have a manual that goes over the assembly. I just don't want to spend 200 dollars if I didn't need to. I want to be absolutely sure. I'm not happy about this either because I've done so much work on this car this year so I could sell it, the car working properly and being inspected. This is a major road block in my plans and it doesn't look good. I just want to know what the reasons are that my fuel pump is bad. What is the function of a fuel pump? I know it's wet system (in gas) and that's why the tank has to be dropped. I took the line that I cracked, which is once again between the filter and the tank, I shook it and some gas spurted out, but not a lot. Could a pump that's not even turned on be causing this blockage? These are the things I want to find out. 200 dollars...

The pump pumps the fuel through the fuel lines to the injection system.
If the pump is not turned on, then it probably wouldnt allow the fuel to pass through.
Did you try puting a bucket at the end of the opening you created in the fuel line and turning the key to the on position(with battery plugged in)?
This should cause the fuel pump to prime the system(meaning it would pump some fuel through the line).
I thought this was how you tried to siphon the gas out...
So try giving the fuel pump some power, if you hear the fuel pump working and if no gas comes out, then you have a problem, but if gas comes out then there is no blockage!
If there is dirt in the tank you should still drop it and clean it because that would destroy the fuel injectors($50+ each)... i need to go, Il be back late tonight and I will check to see if you posted any more questions...bie

The pump pumps the fuel through the fuel lines to the injection system.
If the pump is not turned on, then it probably wouldnt allow the fuel to pass through.
Did you try puting a bucket at the end of the opening you created in the fuel line and turning the key to the on position(with battery plugged in)?
This should cause the fuel pump to prime the system(meaning it would pump some fuel through the line).
I thought this was how you tried to siphon the gas out...
So try giving the fuel pump some power, if you hear the fuel pump working and if no gas comes out, then you have a problem, but if gas comes out then there is no blockage!
If there is dirt in the tank you should still drop it and clean it because that would destroy the fuel injectors($50+ each)... i need to go, Il be back late tonight and I will check to see if you posted any more questions...bie

I'm a bit relieved, thanks slinger. I'll have to try that tomorrow. I'll drop the tank if I don't have to replace the pump. That's a different story!

WHAT AM I SAYING?! I DON'T want to drop the tank...I'll sleep on it.

droppign the tank shouldn't be that bad, all you've gotta do is drop the rear section of the exhaust and the rear, then actually getting the tank out I hear can be a bitch (due to the filler neck)

droppign the tank shouldn't be that bad, all you've gotta do is drop the rear section of the exhaust and the rear, then actually getting the tank out I hear can be a bitch (due to the filler neck)

1) Done

2) not done...

http://files.automotiveforums.com/gallery/watermark.php?file=/503/358681newfueline.jpg

That's no repro line, I found that on the end cap of aisle 5 in a Napa Autoparts. Talk about luck, 20 bucks, more line than I need but exactly what I needed, even has the O-ring!!