Asking about a turbo now for the future!!

I have a question that i could not find answers in searching the forum. When my car is done and it runs hard with no problems i want to step up a turbo. I have the evo3 big 16g right now. What should i step up to next?

Just a reminder i have 880 inj, DSMLINK, ect. and all the other shit you need to go bigger

I am also curious about the T3T4 turbo. Why is it so cheap of turbo in price if its so much better than the evo3 big16g? Hell i could buy 2 t3t4s for the prive of a evo3.

I would think a 20G would be a nice upgrade, maybe.... I don't know, you haven't even ran your rebuilt car yet, I say wait and see after the brake in, and then pump up the boost with a good tune. You might like what you get.

t3/t04 doesnt mean its alot bigger and I would guess its cheaper because there is more of a supply and less demand for them as there are MHI evo III's. What are your goals for the car? weekend warrior daily driver or track pounder?

I would think a 20G would be a nice upgrade, maybe.... I don't know, you haven't even ran your rebuilt car yet, I say wait and see after the brake in, and then pump up the boost with a good tune. You might like what you get.
To me a 20g is worthless, its a good turbo dont get me wrong, but for the price of a 20g you could get a 50 trim or bigger and still have money left over for a manifold

Personally, for my power goals I plan on going with a full 50 trim turbo. I have talked to people with the t3/t4 60 trim and they tell me that it is a good turbo but w/o cams and/or a stroker they really are not worth it. They take a long time to spool without a pretty heavily modified engine. That is why I am going with a 50 trim. The 50 trim still supports about 350-500 horsepower at the wheels. Here is a link incase you are interested. http://www.dsmparts.com/customer/product.php?productid=554&cat=166&page=1

I'll be running a gt35r :)

I'll be running a gt35r :)
Pussy, i'm going bigger than that. Obviously i'm more of a man than you.

LMAO :D

A 50 trim and a 20g are really the same size. 20g is 48 lbs/min, 50 trim is 50 lbs/min. Very similar power potential. The next typical round of turbos is in the 60-65 lb/min range. There is very little in between for conventional bushing (read: affordable) turbos. The BB GT30Rs fall into the 52 (3071) and 55 lb (3076) range. In SBR terms, these are the GT10 through 12 series for bolt on versions. IMO, I think a 55 lb 3076/GT12 is the way to go for a 2 liter. A 2 liter at 30 psi, 8k rpm, and 100% VE can only move a calculated 55 lbs/min, so this is the best compromise between lag and max flow potential given the range of boost/rpm the vast majority of DSMers run. I plan to upgarde the EVO8 turbo to a 3076 myself for this reason. For a stroker, start with a GT35R at the smallest, no contest, IMO.

So it all comes down to money. In the 800-1000 range, you have the 20g/50 trim offerings. Both great turbos in the right combination, and a decent upgrade over a 16g. For a couple hundred more you have the GT BB series. Probably a better bang to buck ratio for the extra cash. Hard to go wrong with any of these turbos though.

one of the BB 50 trims IMO

A 2 liter at 30 psi, 8k rpm, and 100% VE can only move a calculated 55 lbs/min.

That would just scare the shit out of me on my 7bolt. I personaly like the SMC 50 trims too. T3/t4 will require a new manny. Just keep that in mind.

www.dsmparts.com offers a 50 trim so you can keep your stock manifold. I think the turbo is only $750 before any options are added to it.

well if that evo 3 is in good shape and you want to get rid of it let me know im in the market for a big 16g

well if that evo 3 is in good shape and you want to get rid of it let me know im in the market for a big 16g

It only has about 400 miles on it right now. Its still brand new if you ask me. But if i happen to do it within the next few months i will let you know. My engine should be in within 2 weeks i hope, just got to get the engine bay all pretty lol. I will run a different turbo for break in and then put the evo3 on and see how alive it is now since all my mods i did over the winter :grinyes: like some others are saying on here i might be suprized on how good it will run now compared to last summer.

I would run bigger at lower boost, so when you rebuild your motor for a stoker you don't have to upgrade ;)

i have a brand new gt3076 R BB turbo for sale. All this turbo talk, someone might want it. Also, a bb 50 trim is pointless. Not worth getting a bb for that small of a turbo. PM me if interested in the turbo.

Pussy, i'm going bigger than that. Obviously i'm more of a man than you.
In that case I guess I have to go bigger:lol: