MY ZC IS FINALLY RUNNING..and im am pleased as ever.

Finally after 2 weeks of waiting my ZC is running...

We got the SI engine out and the ZC in, in one night but it wouldnt start and my passanger side axel was about to break and it was rusted inside the (dunno what the call it brake thing lol. so i had to get a new fuel injector passanger side axel placment whatever lol spark plugs and wires ect ect...and all for 2 weeks im in love...i dont have the integra ECU for it but today or tomarrow so i havnt flet its full power i dun want to push it without the right ECU. but anyone whos looking into ZC's you will fall in love even though Si motors are way under estimated i think old Si could of barly kept up with a ZC but it still had power :) ..

i hope to get pics of the engine in soon (all go no show) blah blah

Originally posted by Phact
Finally after 2 weeks of waiting my ZC is running...

but anyone whos looking into ZC's you will fall in love even though Si motors are way under estimated i think old Si could of barly kept up with a ZC but it still had power :) ..



the all mighty d series :D i was bummed when my a6 was hacked by an anti-christ mechanic. it's no accident i bought another d series.

i'm glad to hear your happy! i know the feeling of pulling the engine, dropping in another, and the satisfaction of it starting...muhaahaahaa...kinda makes you feel like the mad scientist who just had their hybrid "monster" come alive :evillaugh now you need to walk around with your arms up in the air yelling "IT'S ALIIIIVE" ;)

so now that you did a swap, what are ya gonna try next? any other plans?

ami

Yeah im trying to make a tough decision... I want the almighty EF9 look and feeling but I dunno I think maybe a turbo Z would be good 2?

Hopefully mine will go nicely as well, hope to start the swap towards the end of august.

Well what do you guyz think? Im thinking the whole ZC swap would cost $2800 after complete rebuilding... Adding a highflow intake manifold, RC injectors, Ractive spark plugs, DC header, AEM CAI, Ported and polished head, new belts, skunk 2 cams, adjustable pulleys, and a ZYdyne ecu.... Pfew.... Or I could save up the $4000 for a b16 swap... which would take till next august.. I could probably do the ZC by january with all that... Then the summer Id rebuild the bottom end with new pistons and rods... or just do that during the other rebuild... hmmm? Then I would turbo it out. What do you think I would run in the 1/4 mile with all that? Could I beat the b16as around here that have I/H/E?

I dunno.. I had the ZC and it was nice, but it was no where near the B16.. I've talked to more than a couple guys at the track that were running around the same times as my car with ZCs and nitrous as I was running with a B16 and just an exhaust.

If I prepped the ZC right I bet I could run high 12s low 13s if i wanted to..... but the b16a powered crx at the motorshop runs a 10.6... Its my daily driver and i don't think i need all that power... But hey I don't know

Originally posted by QuickSilverEF9
Well what do you guyz think? Im thinking the whole ZC swap would cost $2800 after complete rebuilding...

yikes! that is the one reason i went with a '00 EX d16y8. only 12,000 miles. thats a baby when you're talking honda. it would sound funny if you heard a '00 owner say "just hit 12,000 miles....time for a rebuild".

we all could sit here and debate dohc vs. sohc vtec...whatever :rolleyes: 2-3 hp difference doesn't mean a thing to me when i'm in it for the long haul.

the y8 cost me $500 :D

Originally posted by QuickSilverEF9
Well what do you guyz think? Im thinking the whole ZC swap would cost $2800 after complete rebuilding... Adding a highflow intake manifold, RC injectors, Ractive spark plugs, DC header, AEM CAI, Ported and polished head, new belts, skunk 2 cams, adjustable pulleys, and a ZYdyne ecu.... Pfew.... Or I could save up the $4000 for a b16 swap... which would take till next august.. I could probably do the ZC by january with all that... Then the summer Id rebuild the bottom end with new pistons and rods... or just do that during the other rebuild... hmmm? Then I would turbo it out. What do you think I would run in the 1/4 mile with all that? Could I beat the b16as around here that have I/H/E?

go with the b16 and rebuild that to a frankienstein...with a ZC you cant build a frankenstein b16 you can i dunn really wana explain pz

Yeah But for the price of a ZC with the LSD and just being dropped in after being totally rebuilt and with a ported and polished head and the other mods I would be making close to 150-160hp then a turbo and i could be up past 200....... The whole operation would cost around $5-5.5k after everything... If I went with the b16a it would be $4k just to swap it in....

Doh! You guys pay WAY too much money for swaps in the states. :p I payed $3200 for a B16A swapped in my car including the auto to manual conversion.. Thats Canadian $. :p I payed $1250 Canadian for the motor tranny and ECU.

I don't think that there should even be an argument that the B16 is better than a ZC.. It just has way more aftermarket support. It has so many swappable parts. I think the only thing that should decide what motor you put in your car is how fast do you want to go, and how much money do you want to spend?!

Cheap, fast and reliable... Choose two. :)

Doh! You guys pay WAY too much money for swaps in the states. :p I payed $3200 for a B16A swapped in my car including the auto to manual conversion.. Thats Canadian $. :p I payed $1250 Canadian for the motor tranny and ECU.

I don't think that there should even be an argument that the B16 is better than a ZC.. It just has way more aftermarket support. It has so many swappable parts. I think the only thing that should decide what motor you put in your car is how fast do you want to go, and how much money do you want to spend?!

Cheap, fast and reliable... Choose two. :)

Originally posted by LadyNRedSi




we all could sit here and debate dohc vs. sohc vtec...whatever :rolleyes: 2-3 hp difference doesn't mean a thing to me


2 - 3 hp difference? Are you comparing that to a b16? :confused: I mean its a bit more than that. You got the y8 rite? 127 vs 160. The only thing thats close to it is the torque. I belive your engine should be rated at 108-113 hp to the wheels while the b16 is at 140. :D Either both are good motors and have good potential.:)

Originally posted by LadyNRedSi

we all could sit here and debate dohc vs. sohc vtec...whatever :rolleyes: 2-3 hp difference doesn't mean a thing to me when i'm in it for the long haul.

DOHC non vetecs i would think have no torque then sohc vtec. it seemed that way i when i bitched slapped that sohc vtec off the line

Originally posted by Phact

DOHC non vetecs i would think have no torque then sohc vtec.

Are you talkin about LS motors or Crv motors? Well they have more torque than some or most dohc v-tecs!:)

Originally posted by mellowboy


2 - 3 hp difference? Are you comparing that to a b16? :confused: I mean its a bit more than that.

LAMO! :huh: no way jose! i was saying zc vs. the sohc v-tec. :hehehe:

he was talking about a spendy rebuild job on a zc. i bought a y8 cheap...no rebuild. the ZC has supposedly 2-3 hp on the y8 :rolleyes: fast is good and all but, isn't gonna make or break me. it's the 12,000 miles that i couldn't argue with :)

ami

Originally posted by LadyNRedSi


LAMO! :huh: now way jose! i was saying zc vs. the sohc v-tec. :hehehe:

he was talking about a spendy rebuild job on a zc. i bought a y8 cheap...no rebuild. the ZC has supposedly 2-3 hp on the y8 :rolleyes: fast is good and all but, if i wanted the extra 2-3 hp...isn't gonna make or break me. it's the 12,000 miles that i couldn't argue with :)

ami

oops sorry my mistake!:)

A standard ZC swap would cost me around $1500 a standard b16a swap would cost me around $4000 is the b16a really worth that extra money for a daily driver? I really want to spank the mustangs and the ricers around here and i think i could do that with a good ZC turbo build up that would cost a grand more than the b16a swap itself... I think 220hp and 180-200 torque would do just fine... I was reading about ZC turbo buildups and one guy who built his up ran a 12.8 I think that is damn good and there is more potential that he is planning on using so he expects to run in the 11s.... The B16a has more parts availible, has vtec, is popular, would give me the whole JDM EF9 theme I am trying to accomplish, and comes with more horse power thought not much more torque..

Welll I guess I could just get the JDM front conversion have it painted and put on then drop the b16a in 3-4months later....... But after the conversion I plan on redoing my suspension... $700... Swapping for the the integra rear braking system and upgrading front rotars... $450... SiR spoiler... SiR taillights... Sir rear seat... Si front seats... seats being reupholstered... JDM door panels (just got today hehehe :devil: ), JDM power windows, MoMo steering wheel, integra lower console with armrest, SiR fog lights and switch, SiR gauge cluster with dome, kick panels, hmm i probably forgot something but I have a long list at home... I would have the money for the swap if I didn't do any of that.... that will cost around $3500 for my list before the engine swap..

Originally posted by QuickSilverEF9
Welll I guess I could just get the JDM front conversion have it painted and put on then drop the b16a in 3-4months later....... But after the conversion I plan on redoing my suspension... $700... Swapping for the the integra rear braking system and upgrading front rotars... $450... SiR spoiler... SiR taillights... Sir rear seat... Si front seats... seats being reupholstered... JDM door panels (just got today hehehe :devil: ), JDM power windows, MoMo steering wheel, integra lower console with armrest, SiR fog lights and switch, SiR gauge cluster with dome, kick panels, hmm i probably forgot something but I have a long list at home... I would have the money for the swap if I didn't do any of that.... that will cost around $3500 for my list before the engine swap..

i will envy you when its finished

I want a rear SiR bumper but I can't find one anywhere and don't want to pay $300 to get it shipped from Japan... I think I should but a plane ticket to japan ($1350 round trip) bring an extra $2k, two empty suitcases. and hit the junkyards grab as much JDM stuff as possible no matter from what year or model of honda or nissan.. Then come back and sell everything on ebay... I bet I could pay off my plane ticket, the cost of the parts and make over $1k extra on the side.. Plus I would have the all mighty JDM momo non srs steering wheel with red stitching and everything else JDM I could ever want and need..... Or I could just buy an SiR and pay the $750 to get it shipped to then licensed in the US.. Ah I live in a dream world because that will never happen....