My first Camaro!
JaceWade
05-23-2006, 10:31 PM
So im rebuilding my Dodge Stealth R/T TT and I was looking for something to drive for the time being and saw this '94 Camaro, 6cyl, 5spd manual. I've never been all that into Camaros and I cannot stand driving an automatic, so I figured i'd try a Camaro out for the time being, one of the positive notes being I've only seen two Camaros for sale with manual transmissions ever. And I must say this car rides beautifully, much more comfortable than my Stealth.
Anyway, theres one problem with it. When I go to put it in reverse it grinds. Not a lot and not all the time. When I put it in reverse, take it out and put it right back in reverse it never grinds. If' im just sitting it chooses when it wants to grind and when it wants to go right in. Every other gear is fine.
Other than that I love it, and love the fun I can have with RWD compared to my AWD.
Anyway, theres one problem with it. When I go to put it in reverse it grinds. Not a lot and not all the time. When I put it in reverse, take it out and put it right back in reverse it never grinds. If' im just sitting it chooses when it wants to grind and when it wants to go right in. Every other gear is fine.
Other than that I love it, and love the fun I can have with RWD compared to my AWD.
ZL1power69
05-24-2006, 01:11 AM
congrats on getting ur first camaro. i had the same issue with my 5speed iroc (same tranny as ur 94). on occasion, it would grind a little going into reverse. then if i tried it again it was fine. i thought it might be a syncro or something out of adjustment but never looked into fixing it. it only happened about once or twice a month and all other gears opporated smoothly.
FormulaLT1
05-24-2006, 01:52 AM
Congrats on the new vehicle.
CamarosRsweet94
05-24-2006, 06:24 AM
Congrats on the car and welcome to the boards. My guess would be that it is either a bad syncro or somehow it is messed up and isn't going all the way into reverse, possibly a bad linkage (if that is possible, I don't know too much about the trans).
malletslinger
05-24-2006, 04:05 PM
congrats on the new maro!:thumbsup:
Earlsfat
05-24-2006, 04:22 PM
Welcome. Usually I can't help anyone, but for once I can contribute...:grinno:
Since I'm currently rebuilding a 4 speed... There are no synchronizers for reverse... they're only for the forward gears (between 1&2, 3&4, etc) and that's because the gears spin loose on the shaft until engaged and the synchronizer is a very cool device that gets you out of one gear, speed the next up to the proper speed to engage without grinding, etc. (This may sound stupid, but manual transmission really are an amazing nice piece of work, when you think about how someone actually figured all that stuff out.)
Anyway, the reverse gears get ground when you shift into reverse while still moving (regardless of whether the clutch is in our out) and once they're ground the only way to get rid of the grinding is to get new reverse gears installed. IMO not worth the money or time, since you're more than likely to do it yourself from time to time and wind up in the same spot. :nono: So if you get new reverse idler and mainshaft gears installed, make sure you come to a complete stop before shifting into reverse or you just blew a lot of money for nothing.
Since you now own a Maro, we'll overlook the Dodge issue..:rofl:
Since I'm currently rebuilding a 4 speed... There are no synchronizers for reverse... they're only for the forward gears (between 1&2, 3&4, etc) and that's because the gears spin loose on the shaft until engaged and the synchronizer is a very cool device that gets you out of one gear, speed the next up to the proper speed to engage without grinding, etc. (This may sound stupid, but manual transmission really are an amazing nice piece of work, when you think about how someone actually figured all that stuff out.)
Anyway, the reverse gears get ground when you shift into reverse while still moving (regardless of whether the clutch is in our out) and once they're ground the only way to get rid of the grinding is to get new reverse gears installed. IMO not worth the money or time, since you're more than likely to do it yourself from time to time and wind up in the same spot. :nono: So if you get new reverse idler and mainshaft gears installed, make sure you come to a complete stop before shifting into reverse or you just blew a lot of money for nothing.
Since you now own a Maro, we'll overlook the Dodge issue..:rofl:
stieh2000
05-24-2006, 07:34 PM
Yeah, the T5 trannys in our f-bodies have pretty lousy shifters, but you could always get an aftermarket shorth-throw shifter that shoud fix the problem.
ZL1power69
05-24-2006, 08:43 PM
Yeah, the T5 trannys in our f-bodies have pretty lousy shifters, but you could always get an aftermarket shorth-throw shifter that shoud fix the problem.
i had an aftermarket short shifter on my t5 and i still had problems with reverse on occasion. is this a pretty common issue with t5's?
i had an aftermarket short shifter on my t5 and i still had problems with reverse on occasion. is this a pretty common issue with t5's?
JaceWade
05-24-2006, 09:20 PM
I came with a short throw shifter :-)
Thanks.
Thanks.
Stealthy-One
05-25-2006, 02:19 AM
Know whats funny? I just sold my Stealth to get my camaro. Loved teh stealth, but I am having way more fun with the Maro. now if only I had been able to find a Manual one instead of theis autocraptic one...
Dyno247365
05-25-2006, 02:38 AM
How many fourth gens come with 5 speeds??
Earlsfat
05-25-2006, 09:35 AM
Let me try a different way...
It's NOT the shifter. Your reverse gears are ground (probably not too bad though), and if you happen to be lined up right (it's not that hard to have happen, mine only grinds occasionally) when shifting into reverse it won't grind.
This is common with ALL manual transmissions (per local trans shop) and the only thing you can do stop it from happening is to slow down and make sure you come to a COMPLETE STOP BEFORE SHIFTING INTO REVERSE.
It's NOT the shifter. Your reverse gears are ground (probably not too bad though), and if you happen to be lined up right (it's not that hard to have happen, mine only grinds occasionally) when shifting into reverse it won't grind.
This is common with ALL manual transmissions (per local trans shop) and the only thing you can do stop it from happening is to slow down and make sure you come to a COMPLETE STOP BEFORE SHIFTING INTO REVERSE.
Earlsfat
05-25-2006, 09:37 AM
:lol: I came with a short throw shifter :-).:rofl: :evillol: :crying:
:rofl: :cwm27: :disappoin
You oughtta watch posts like that in here...:grinyes: :lol: :cwm27: :nono:
:rofl: :cwm27: :disappoin
You oughtta watch posts like that in here...:grinyes: :lol: :cwm27: :nono:
FormulaLT1
05-25-2006, 11:14 AM
How many fourth gens come with 5 speeds??Every manual V6 had a 5 speed.
stieh2000
05-25-2006, 04:55 PM
Every manual V6 had a 5 speed.
To add to this,
The V8 Manuals came with 6 speeds.
If sometime you're bored, you can google the build numbers from 93-02 and add up the numbers to figure out just how many 4th gens came with 5-speeds. It wont be much though, I thinks a good 2/3 of all Camaros came with autos.
To add to this,
The V8 Manuals came with 6 speeds.
If sometime you're bored, you can google the build numbers from 93-02 and add up the numbers to figure out just how many 4th gens came with 5-speeds. It wont be much though, I thinks a good 2/3 of all Camaros came with autos.
ZL1power69
05-26-2006, 12:37 AM
To add to this,
The V8 Manuals came with 6 speeds.
If sometime you're bored, you can google the build numbers from 93-02 and add up the numbers to figure out just how many 4th gens came with 5-speeds. It wont be much though, I thinks a good 2/3 of all Camaros came with autos.
or camarosource.ca or whitebook
The V8 Manuals came with 6 speeds.
If sometime you're bored, you can google the build numbers from 93-02 and add up the numbers to figure out just how many 4th gens came with 5-speeds. It wont be much though, I thinks a good 2/3 of all Camaros came with autos.
or camarosource.ca or whitebook
Dyno247365
05-26-2006, 02:07 AM
:uhoh: To add to this,
The V8 Manuals came with 6 speeds.
If sometime you're bored, you can google the build numbers from 93-02 and add up the numbers to figure out just how many 4th gens came with 5-speeds. It wont be much though, I thinks a good 2/3 of all Camaros came with autos.
I was just worried I was buyign an LT1 with a 5 speed :uhoh:
It's interesting though, and very ironic that the same transmission that came on barely any third gen camaros (we can agree on this right? I saw ONE at the last car show and thought I'd found Amelia Erhardt.) yet they came in every single V6 4th gen.
The V8 Manuals came with 6 speeds.
If sometime you're bored, you can google the build numbers from 93-02 and add up the numbers to figure out just how many 4th gens came with 5-speeds. It wont be much though, I thinks a good 2/3 of all Camaros came with autos.
I was just worried I was buyign an LT1 with a 5 speed :uhoh:
It's interesting though, and very ironic that the same transmission that came on barely any third gen camaros (we can agree on this right? I saw ONE at the last car show and thought I'd found Amelia Erhardt.) yet they came in every single V6 4th gen.
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