96 Eclipse with a Problem

ok i got an eclipse rs 5sp drove it home runs fine
looks nice
everything seems to work well

but the check Engine light is on i asked them about it and they said it was because they have modded the engine its been bored out 60 thousands over
bigger pistons and such not real clear on what was done to the engine

so i take it down to the emissions today and they tell me they get no info from the computer and they cant pass the car because the check engine light is on

is there a way around that or anyone ever have this problem?

neways i dont really know a whole lot about eclipses but i have always liked the cars and i want to like the one i own

neways thx for any help u can offer me

that mod you listed wont make the engine light come on. they can't get anything with their computer? thats odd... if you throw a cel then something is up. take it to auto zone see if they can tell you what the light is from.

The CEL is not from is being bored out, if it even was. Like nova said, take it to Autozone or somewhere similar that runs codes for free and get the code. You might also want to take it to a mechanic you trust and have him give the car a good look over, because odds are whoever you bought it from was not honest on it's condition.

ok i'll try that
i just hope these people didnt mess too much up in the car that i cant get it fixed
cuz i really like the car the paint is awesome
2 video monitors ps2 1000watt system

blitz body kit

pretty damn fast too
runs really nice sucks that they have to do the emissions from the computer cuz it would pass if they just stuck the sensor in the tail pipe

ok i took it down to get it checked to see why the cel was on and they said the little plug in that sends out the signal isnt getting any power


any idea how hard it is to track down the wires that give that box power

he also said that could be why the light is on

neways i got the repair book and i am gonna take a look at it today

Wait, so they cant pull a code because the plug in for the diagnostics isnt getting power? Fuck man, I have a bad feeling for you about this car. Sixty thousanths is a long ways to bore it out due to normal wear, something must've gone pretty wrong to have to go out .060". I would definately take it to a trusted mechanic for a good look over.

well i dunno if they did that to fix wear on the motor or to improve the hp

when i bought the car it said new High Perf motor with 5k miles on it

Sounds to me like they bent you over and stuck it in your ass. If they can't even check codes because the OBDII plug doesn't have any power then you're screwed. You need a wiring schematics to find the problem where the OBDII wiring is wrong. And the only reason that anyone would bore it to .060 is because of some major damage and wear. You wouldn't get much hp increase with just boring it out

And high performance motor my ass, it's probably junk and always has been, they just sold it to let someone else deal with the problems.

well i dont even know if they really bored out the motor or not
i'm probably just gonna run to a shop and let them take a look at it

hopefuly it wont cost me too much to find out the problem

I think there are problems in that car that lie deeper than just the motor, especially if you can't even pull codes from it.

i am gonna take it down to the local Mitsubishi Service Repair place

they said it would cost me around 80$ to have them go over the car and tell me the problems it has

so thats what i am gonna do :banghead:

i am gonna take it down to the local Mitsubishi Service Repair place

they said it would cost me around 80$ to have them go over the car and tell me the problems it has

so thats what i am gonna do :banghead:

$80 well spent my friend

$80 well spent my friend


:screwy:

If it's at the dealership, they will tell you things that you "may" need to have replaced within the next 10k-15k miles. If you have a connector on a harness that needs to be fixed or replaced, instead of replacing just the connector, they will tell you to get a whole new harness (which could be a differnce of $8 or $800. My buddy had his car in their for a clutch warranty and he told them to kinda just look things over and they found $4,300 worth of things that they said should be fixed.

That was 2 years ago and 20k miles later. To this day the only thing that has gone wrong with it was the throwout bearing. Now it seems to me that they would have installed it correctly at the dealership right? Well, they didn't and they wouldn't warranty it because "that's not the part that they were covering under warranty when he brought it in the first time." Smells like bullshit to me. I refuse to go to the Mitsubishi dealer around here because for 1) it's 2 hours away, and 2) there's a chrylser dealership in my town and I know the parts man pretty well so I just get parts for a talon and put them in my Eclipse :) (plus I get a lil discount too:naughty: )

The guy obviously has serious issues with his car and he has no idea of the history of it. Having somebody go through and check the car out and tell him things that are wrong with it for $80 seems worth it to me. Yeah they will suggest things that might not need to be replaced, but you can always ignore the things you know are fine. In his situation it seems like a good idea to me. :2cents:

I completely agree with you on having it checked out, but I've even seen cases where someone takes it to the dealer to get it tuned-up or even looked at, and they've replaced things, without first consulting the owner. And then they give you the excuse "we thought you wanted us to look it over and fix the problems."

If he doesn't have a local mechanic that he trusts and is reliable, then the dealership would be the next best bet, but I would suggest a private mechanic or business before the dealer. Again though, it's just my opinion.

I completely agree with you on having it checked out, but I've even seen cases where someone takes it to the dealer to get it tuned-up or even looked at, and they've replaced things, without first consulting the owner. And then they give you the excuse "we thought you wanted us to look it over and fix the problems."

If he doesn't have a local mechanic that he trusts and is reliable, then the dealership would be the next best bet, but I would suggest a private mechanic or business before the dealer. Again though, it's just my opinion.

I know what you mean, my parents fall for that shit all the time. I just shake my head and wonder how people are so gullible. A trustworthy mechanic is a very overlooked asset, mine lives 3 houses down and my parents are too dumb to drive the little extra distance and take it to where he works rather than the gay ass co-op where the meat heads there can barely change oil, let alone diagnose a problem. I refuse to take my car to anyone but him, because I have been screwed over with previous cars and this one means too much to me to risk it.

If I have a problem with my talon in the furture, can I take it to mitsubishi dealer ? or I have to go to chrysler ?.

Chrylser. Why would you even want to go to the Mitsubishi dealer? Chrysler probably won't stick a huge dildo in your ass with the words "ripped off" engraved in it like a Mitsu. dealer would.

Chrylser. Why would you even want to go to the Mitsubishi dealer? Chrysler probably won't stick a huge dildo in your ass with the words "ripped off" engraved in it like a Mitsu. dealer would.

It really dosn't matter. Unless you know somebody there or are friends with one of the mechanics they will still try and fuck you over. My dad worked at a Chrysler dealer for about a year, and he had all kinds of stories about people getting screwed...funny part is he gets screwed a lot because hes a dumbass and thinks he knows everything.

Hmm...maybe it's the small town dealer around here but they are nice people at the chrylser dealer in my town. Either way he's going to have to pay a good amount to get the whole car checked anywhere else.

i got a coupon in the mail that says

Check Engine Light Diagonstics $39.95
Engine light on?
let Meineke Analyze and Diagnose the problem.

but they wouldnt beable to do a dam thing cuz they are just gonna hookup the scanner to the box under the dash which isnt giving out a signal lol

sounds good but i doubt they can do jack

The obd2 port not having power could be the caues of the cel. There is a fuse in the engine bay for the dome lights, this is also the power for the obd2 port, check that fuse.

Also known as room lights, fuse #17.

what they do at mineke for 40 dollars is probably the same as when you borrow the scan tool from autozone for free.

what they do at mineke for 40 dollars is probably the same as when you borrow the scan tool from autozone for free.

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ya i took it to autozone and they said Hey you dont have any power down here

lol

neways i'll check that fuse hmm i dont dome lights int he car

well thats one problem down
the fuse was dead i replaced it and bam dome lights
so maybe i can find out what is making the cel come on
tomarrow at autozone

thx alot for all the info it has helped me so much

well thats one problem down
the fuse was dead i replaced it and bam dome lights
so maybe i can find out what is making the cel come on
tomarrow at autozone

thx alot for all the info it has helped me so much

well thats one problem down
the fuse was dead i replaced it and bam dome lights
so maybe i can find out what is making the cel come on
tomarrow at autozone

thx alot for all the info it has helped me so much

well thats one problem down
the fuse was dead i replaced it and bam dome lights
so maybe i can find out what is making the cel come on
tomarrow at autozone

thx alot for all the info it has helped me so much

well thats one problem down
the fuse was dead i replaced it and bam dome lights
so maybe i can find out what is making the cel come on
tomarrow at autozone

thx alot for all the info it has helped me so much

You don't have dome lights in the car? Well than that's a GOOD indication that the fuse is blown. Get that taken care of ASAP so if your CEL is actually being thrown for a reason other than no power to the OBD-II connection, you can fix it before it causes any real damage.

You don't have dome lights in the car? Well than that's a GOOD indication that the fuse is blown. Get that taken care of ASAP so if your CEL is actually being thrown for a reason other than no power to the OBD-II connection, you can fix it before it causes any real damage.

didnt have dome lights i got em now but cel is still on but i think my oil sending unit might be broke so i am replacing that tomarrow morning

the piece that u plug in to is cracked and half is missing it seems to still connect but i cant be totaly sure dam car is so low to the ground lol


neways i will switch that and see if the cel goes off

if not then Autozone i go and have them check it to see what the problem is

The CEL won't turn off when the problem is fixed, you have to reset the system. Just unhook the battery for a minute or two and then hook it up again and it resets the coding system. Good luck and let us know how it turns out :thumbsup:

ah well i will have to try that before taking it down but my speedometer isnt working i thought i read some place that will give you a cel and the oil light is on but that could be because of the oil sending unit


and if i have any extra letters in nmy posts its cuz my gf spilled wine on my keyboard a few hours ago i try to make the corrections but i might miss a few getting double letters on a few lol

Your speedometer not working will not give you a CEL unless it's a faulty speed sensor. If it's unplugged or anything like that it won't throw a CEL. As for the oil light, it could be the sending unit, or it may not. Either way get it checked out because an oil light isn't something to mess around with. :)

when i bought the car and had to drive it back home wich is around 90 miles and havent had a problem

I never said that it is for sure something major, but you should get it checked out so that if something is wrong, it doesn't turn into something major.

ya i gotcha
after i change the oil sending unit if the oil light is still on i am gonna head to autozone if they cant tell me then to a repair shop

Why not just go to autozone first and find out what is the problem before starting to replace things that might not need to be?

Also go and delete like 4 of your double posts.

well i am gonna replace it cuz its cracked in half so it needs replacing
and if i have any double posts i cant see them

so my dad got under the car and was looking around getting ready to replace the oil sending unit
he pulls it off and it dont match the part we just bought
they look the same on the outside but the screw type end is alot smaller on the unit we pulled out

thinking for a sec ok this is probably a heat sensor or something along those lines

so he starts to look for the oil sending unit again sense i have an oil light and thats about all he can figure would cause that atm
he finds the oil sending unit and its totaly unplugged
and the wire is cut
he makes a little adapter to put on it
bam no more oil light no more cel

gonna run it back down to emissions and see how she does

wish me luck :)

did you replace the sending unit for the light or the gauge?? im assuming the light?

i didnt have to replace either i just had to connect the wire to the sending unit whom ever owned the car before me had cut the wire for whatever reason

also the cel came back on, on the way to emissions so i stoped at autozone and found out the o2 senser isnt working so i am gonna look in to that it should be the only problem left just hope the crack head that owned the car didnt remove the cat converter

also the cel came back on, on the way to emissions so i stoped at autozone and found out the o2 senser isnt working so i am gonna look in to that it should be the only problem left just hope the crack head that owned the car didnt remove the cat converter

You would be able to see if it was removed and replaced with a straight pipe.

Your quadruple posts are at the end of page 2 :)

i got under the car and looked everything is there now its just a matter of getting the o2 senser in i orderd it and its on its way

then i gotta swap it out and hope that fixes the problem and the cel goes off then i get to spend 3 hours at the DMV Yay!!!

ugh lol so got the o2 senser installed it

cel goes off then after a few minutes comes back on i run to autozone
and now its the EGR we pulled off one of the hoses taped on it a little unhooked the batt hooked it back up cel goes off

and stays off for about 5 hours then comes back on
you think i need to clean out the EGR and then just take it down to Emissions and run it though?

Try cleaning out the EGR and see if that works, otherwise you're looking at a bad sensor. I think I have a few laying around here if you need me to send you one. Just keep us updated and let me know what the situation is.

i removed a hose and then removed the motor fuse cel stayed off for 6 hours so i gave it a shot and pulled the fuse again went down and it passed emissions the light hasnt came back on sense then so i think i am good
thx for the offer tho