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Headliner Falling!!!!


dwrock1
05-22-2006, 02:29 PM
OK, so my headliner is falling, ( a problem i see with alot of GM cars). What kind of glue should i use to get it back on there? I prefer not to take it to a shop and have them do it im a DIY kind of guy.

CamarosRsweet94
05-22-2006, 03:45 PM
Get some gorilla glue that stuff will hold anything.

stieh2000
05-22-2006, 04:46 PM
Get some gorilla glue that stuff will hold anything.

NOT true. I tried using that stuff to fix a pair of cheap sunglasses, and the didn't do $#!7.

wrightz28
05-22-2006, 04:53 PM
Super 77 from 3M/scotchguard used to be what we used. But the last few didn't seem to last so long. don't know if its the glue, or the fact that the foam boards are getting older. :dunno:

CamaroRS92
05-22-2006, 09:37 PM
It's probably not the glue thats failing that is causing it to fall.
It's most likely the foam backing on the fabric breaking down. When that happens there is really nothing there to glue that will hold since the foam will just more or less turn to a dust and continue to fall and since the foam is gone the glue will seep thru the fabric and look like crap.
The only real remedy is to recover with new headliner fabric and 3M spray trim adhesive is the best thing to use for reinstallation. It is like a contact cement, but is not harmful to the foam backing

You can still do it yourself though. Year One has the headliner boards & material to cover your own or you can order them precovered and just install.

AFI 05
05-22-2006, 11:22 PM
yeah.. the 3m spray.. but saturate the foam underneath the fabric first.. it'll hold.. i think the original glue fails cause its just plain cheap and all the heat and stuff.. it breaks down over time.

CamarosRsweet94
05-23-2006, 12:37 AM
NOT true. I tried using that stuff to fix a pair of cheap sunglasses, and the didn't do $#!7.

You probably didn't use it correctly.

wrightz28
05-23-2006, 10:19 AM
What we do for the process is remove everything down to the original board which means scraping off all of the loose crudy padding as CamaroRS92 mentioned as a problem source. From there iit gets a nice fineal cleaning, sundried, then the super 77 is sprayed onto the board. The tirck is it needs to get tacky, about 7 minutes at room temp, before the fabric comes in contact with it. Then you have to carefully bit by bit lower the fabric down onto the board and use a wall paper roller to remove any bubbles and creases.

Nice part is with these cars you take it in and out of the hatch. 4 door cars sometimes require removal of a seat to get it back in wiht out damaging it.

Stealthy-One
05-23-2006, 12:32 PM
so what is the easiest way to get the trim off so I can pull out my headliner? the fabric is gone from mine, and I just have remnants of foam up there. kinda nasty when I forget and stretch and hit it...

wrightz28
05-23-2006, 12:40 PM
its supposed to slide toward the rear of the window. key words, supposed to.

kymber39845
05-26-2006, 04:21 PM
My headliner fell a few years ago. The old material was no good. I went inside to my sewing trunk and pulled out some fabric with Taz all over it. I thought it would just be temporary, until I could get the proper stuff and a new board. 6 years later it's still holding. I get multiple comments on it since it happens to match the car! I have T-Tops and that kinda helps it stay with the smaller areas and all. I used the 3M general trim adhesive. Good stuff but I don't recommend trying it on a windy day in your front yard. LOL

Dyno247365
05-26-2006, 04:41 PM
I'm thinking about getting a new headliner done with an upholstery shop. Rotten foam falling all over the place, not good looking. For some reason, new headliners are so much money (third gen).

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