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MY CAR - AWD, RWD...DSM link


gstclips
05-16-2006, 01:59 AM
K so I decided not to sell my car...go figure.

FWD is so gay, I cant add anymore power cause traction sucks as it is. so the mouse started spinning in my head.

LSD is an option but kinda boring, i was thinking...AWD conversion would be a fun project this winter...or maybe RWD?

anyone here ever done an awd conversion...selling the car and buying a gsx is not really an option...if i sell the car I will probably stray from dsms...

what do u think?

I also decided to ditch the afc and run dsm link.
does anyone have an extra 1g front cover I could buy from them (the 2g modified cover is leakin alittle oil, part of the reason i want to go with dsm link)

blk_srt
05-16-2006, 02:12 AM
This may be a stupid question but what does an oil leak have to do with link?

gstclips
05-16-2006, 02:24 AM
because when you do a 2g to 1g motor swap, you need to use either a 2g front cover (modified, so it has the posibility to leak oil) or use the 1g front cover with dsm link...

Killa
05-16-2006, 02:29 AM
Im glad you stay with dsm man, AWD convertion is way to go. Good luck

kjewer1
05-16-2006, 02:31 AM
Yup. That was once known as the RRE method, I Don't know many poeple at all that run it that way, but it's a pretty slick way to get around the RM CELs. Soon after the MAgnus method became known, and much more popular, but needs DSMlink to really get rid of the RM problem the right way.

A couple local guys have done the AWD conversion, but I don't know enough about it to comment. In a spyder it's much easier. Not sure how poeple do it in regular 2Gs, but it's been done. More effort than I would be willing to put into one of these POSs :D

sganc4life_4
05-16-2006, 09:20 AM
because when you do a 2g to 1g motor swap, you need to use either a 2g front cover (modified, so it has the posibility to leak oil) or use the 1g front cover with dsm link...


What front cover are you talking about? Im a little confused here

kjewer1
05-16-2006, 09:39 AM
Oil pump.

Thor06
05-16-2006, 12:38 PM
I say go RWD. Make it a drifter. After this Talon is done, my next project will be a drift 1g :D. Check out the writeup someone from AF did on AWD conversions, I think its the only one. Mounting up the rear end would be the same I would think, but you'd have to get creative to get the engine turned 90 degrees.

gstclips
05-17-2006, 12:53 AM
yeah a dsm going sideways would be kinda crazy :lol: . I know nothing about trannys, isnt there a way to mess with the awd tranny to so it only turns the rear wheels?....then again if I go through all the trouble mounting an AWD tranny why not keep it AWD. I dunno definetly a winter project.

blk_srt
05-17-2006, 12:54 AM
people pull the front axels and it makes it rwd but its not a good idea and is hard on the drive line

gstclips
05-17-2006, 01:11 AM
who has experience with an LSD, is it worth it? How much does it actually help? (Just read the AWD conversion thread, think it might be easier to buy a gsx and sway my moter into it haha)

o wait...no money, scratch that idea

Thor06
05-17-2006, 01:23 AM
Yes, LSD's help a lot. If they didnt, why would people run them? ;)

If you make it RWD, dont do the ghetto AWD - front axles shit. You'd have to turn the engine 90 degrees and get a Mighty Max tranny. It would be pimp as hell though.

gstclips
05-17-2006, 01:59 AM
has anyone done a RWD here? (with the mighty max and 90 degree motor turn?)

"Why would people run an LSD if it didnt work?"....why do guys with civics buy simulation BOVs? :lol:

Thanks for the help so far, I am really interested in doing this. My uncle has alot of knowledge with cars, and after I gained his respect for my car after taking him for a ride he wants to work on it with me.

I got the motor figured out but rotating the motor and transmission shit is WAY over my head.

kjewer1
05-17-2006, 03:08 AM
Buschur sells a lot of the parts need for RWD conversions. Like motor mount plates, belhousing adapters (for 2 speed autos though), etc. I think they have a seperate section for RWD on thier site now that I think about it.

Thor06
05-17-2006, 12:15 PM
There was one kid on here a few months back that had a RWD 1g for sale. Also, Rau is running RWD on his track car. I'm into this too, this could be really sweet. You're in MN too right?

EDIT: Here is that like to Buschur's RWD conversion page.
https://secure.buschurracing.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=24

Killa
05-17-2006, 12:53 PM
There was one kid on here a few months back that had a RWD 1g for sale. Also, Rau is running RWD on his track car. I'm into this too, this could be really sweet. You're in MN too right?

EDIT: Here is that like to Buschur's RWD conversion page.
https://secure.buschurracing.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=24

yea I remmember it, it was blue I guess, and sell really cheap too, 3k

ITSME4G63
05-17-2006, 01:19 PM
dude who the fuck is that chick in your signature?!!?!!11

gstclips
05-17-2006, 10:39 PM
There was one kid on here a few months back that had a RWD 1g for sale. Also, Rau is running RWD on his track car. I'm into this too, this could be really sweet. You're in MN too right?

EDIT: Here is that like to Buschur's RWD conversion page.
https://secure.buschurracing.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=24

YUP! Im in MN (plymouth, minnestonka area). It would be nice to go through the process with someone else (your a 1g right?). I can picture it now tires 2 inches wider than stock in the rear :lol: ...It would be really sick and rare to have a RWD drive 350whp eclipse!

dude who the fuck is that chick in your signature?!!?!!11

A slut..her name is Kristy and her phone number is 212-479-7990

blk_srt
05-17-2006, 11:23 PM
YUP! Im in MN (plymouth, minnestonka area). It would be nice to go through the process with someone else (your a 1g right?). I can picture it now tires 2 inches wider than stock in the rear :lol: ...It would be really sick and rare to have a RWD drive 350whp eclipse!
We should really hang out sometime. I have family that lives in brooklyn park and I'm always up there.



A slut..her name is Kristy and her phone number is 212-479-7990
*Picks up the phone and dials number*

gstclips
05-17-2006, 11:51 PM
Im down for hangin out, wanna get in on the RWD project with me and thor? Haha we should have a MN meet..grill and cruise or somethin...hotel party with some bitches?...

Thor06
05-18-2006, 12:24 AM
:lol: Yeah dude, I'm down. I might have a crazy ass summer job, but I'd for sure want to do that. I would totally help with a RWD conversion too, I'll be in Minneapolis for school (U of M) this winter so I wont be far away at all.

gstclips
05-18-2006, 12:32 AM
just added everything up it will be at LEAST 3grand to do the conversion...so sadly not sure if the project will happen anytime soon :banghead:

gotta get my buisness bumpin then rwd for all haha

Thor06
05-18-2006, 12:53 AM
Yikes, 3 grand? Shit....

blk_srt
05-18-2006, 01:02 AM
I'm totally down for a mn meet. I know there is at least 4 of us on here and I'm sure if that isnt enough we all have friends..

gstclips
05-18-2006, 04:19 PM
I have no friends

haha yea and it wouldnt have to be just dsms...

Thor06
05-18-2006, 04:31 PM
Yeah dude. I know a guy from up here with a pretty fuckin fast DSM, he'd probably go too. I also know a guy with a Neon that fucks basically everything up here. We should definately do it.

gstclips
05-18-2006, 04:59 PM
where are you from?

blk_srt
05-18-2006, 05:54 PM
I think thor is from bimidji(sp) or somewhere around there and I'm from austin. Lets figure out a date.

MexRocket
05-18-2006, 05:59 PM
OR, you guys could some other mid west guys in wisconsin or something in the middle or lake geneva lOL

blk_srt
05-18-2006, 06:04 PM
Or we could have a party in Minneaplois because its closer...

gstclips
05-19-2006, 02:22 AM
I agree...k well are you guys leavin the date up to me or what?

blk_srt
05-19-2006, 12:24 PM
I'll start a new thread and we can discuss it

Nayr747
05-20-2006, 12:28 AM
RMR has converted 8 Evos to RWD for the new F&F movie. This is a quote from SCC mag. It's about Evos but is it that much different?

"Converting to rear drive is staightforward, if not simple. The transfer case is cracked open and the LSD output assembly is replaced with a new one that RMR fabricates out of billet steel that omits the splines to drive the front wheels. Caps cover up the now useless output holes in the trans case... The front axle stub ends are retained to act as bolts for holding together the hub assemblies. RMR is now selling a kit to convert any Evo to rear-drive. And converting back to all-wheel drive should be simple too. You could even buy two kits and convert your Evo to no-wheel drive." lol

Thor06
05-20-2006, 12:45 AM
Sounds like a ghetto rig job to me. Do they even know what they are talking about? Doesnt sound like it to me. The t-case doesnt have anything to do with the front wheel part of the AWD system on a DSM, is it different for a EVO?

blk_srt
05-20-2006, 01:05 AM
Wheres Kevin when you need him...

gstclips
05-20-2006, 03:53 PM
well that might work on a AWD car but im FWD :banghead:

Nayr747
05-20-2006, 07:27 PM
well that might work on a AWD car but im FWD :banghead:

Oh, crap. :uhoh: :lol2:

kjewer1
05-20-2006, 10:32 PM
Converting to RWD in this way is retarded in my opinion. The rear drivetrain is not intended to carry all of the torque output from the motor.

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