Thinking WRX STi

Oh, and no, I don't mean the new one, that sucker is butt ugly.

If I get Officer status in the Navy (Pending), I will most likely get a new car this next year (I'll be gone for around 6 months before I get back for whatever vacation). I thought about getting a turbo for my T/A, and some suspension goodies, but the reality of it is that it will never handle like an IRS car.

I'll be listing the T/A on ebay sometime this week, and see how things turn out. Hopefully I won't be taking that big of a hit. Most likely i'm going to sell it for over $16K.

In any event, I plan on getting a 2004/2005 Subaru STi. I will, of course be modifying it. Anyone know of any good tuners for these cars, and what mods aid them the most?

My goal is to have a low 12 sec. STi. I know i'll have to upgrade the fuel pump and injectors, and might need a larger turbo.

Your thoughts on mods?

I personally like the brand new ones but thats just me. As far as i mods go you'll probably want a bigger turbo (and of course all the nessecary mods to support it) as the ones on them are little. Let us know how it turns out.

Edit: I have been in an 06 STi and it is pretty nice. You should at least check one out first.

the new STi's handles better then the 04/05 ones, the new STi can actually hang with the EVO 9 MR in handling and as shown in best motoring, it has better high end stability then a E46 M3. this is all due to the much improved aerodynamics.

now on the what needs to be done to make them low 12 second cars. you would probrably need around 400whp to run low 12's with that car. stock turbo maxes out around 300whp give or take.

stock injectors are only 440cc if i recall correctly. so definitly bigger injectors and bigger turbo, you might be able to get away with running a larger top mount for better response.

and the next key ingredient is the ECU. stock fuel management sucks, before they made reflashes of piggyback ecu's, STi's would blow their engines when boost creeping to 18-19 psi. ( stock is 16.5 psi ) the best piggy back i think is the TurboXS U-tech.

so yeah good luck with yoru quest with the STi, they have much better interiors, are built much better, and have waaay stronger clutch/ tranny then the EVO's do.

Yeah the stock clutch on my Evo went out after only a few thousand miles. Then again I bought it used, and don't know what the previous owner had driven it like.

I personally think STIs are some of the hardest to tune cars there are. The ECU is so damn governed that any alteration will cause it to either fry or to lock itself up in limp mode.
I dont know how much theyve advanced since I last looked into it. My best friend bought one in 03 and its been three years and there just inst any safe tunning for it so yeah 3 years later he is still running stock.
All I know is every single STI that Ive personally seen run 12s end up blowing up 3-6 months down the line. Evos are supposed to be weaker and all but in reallity the 4G63 is nuke proof and I rather strip my clutch then blow my engine. STIs just dont last if you tune them........but Im no expert and maybee someone out there actually learned how to do it right.....I just havent seen it.

Man I just plainly dont like STI drivers either. For some reason all the ones I know have huge egos and think they are immortal unstopable unbeatable cars. But Im sure you wont get that infection LS1Z28.

Yeah, I don't have the i'm the best persona. I've got more important things to do then to condescend those around me. To be honest alot of the LS1 community are dickheads (Not the ones on here, the ones from other boards).

Just buy the Vishnu stage 2 package. They claim it should get you 12's flat.

http://www.vishnutuning.com/impreza_sti_stage2_v400.htm

Yeah, I don't have the i'm the best persona. I've got more important things to do then to condescend those around me. To be honest alot of the LS1 community are dickheads (Not the ones on here, the ones from other boards).


:( And I've worked so hard to be a prick. And then you go and say that... :frown:



Oh wait, I sold my LS1... ok... nevermind. Continue on.:icon16:

Yeah, some of the guys at LS1Tech.com can be rather rude. Not per say with me, but i've seen just flat out dickheads post on there, especially in the Western Forum.

Matt you should know about some of the jerk LS1 community. What after meeting some of the more likeable members of Balls Deep car club.

2.5L STi's are crap. Cast pistons, plastic engine mounts...

It's a pity the USDM never got to see the much better (opinion) and more tuneable 2L STi's

[quote=Musashi3000GTbut Im no expert and maybee someone out there actually learned how to do it right.....I just havent seen it.[/quote]

Roger Clarke Motorsport, they built a 9-second STI ('05 i think) pushing over 800bhp. if i find the magazine article i'll scan it.

800BHP and it runs 9s???? are you sure?? I thought those fuckers weighed like 3200 lbs or something

ooooooh look at mr. fancy pants in the U.K. always correcting me!
yeah Gov-nah? well it ran 9's but how long did it go before it blew up? :grinno:

This guy (girl?) is running low 9s in the white '06 ('05?) with pink racing stripes.
http://agracingvideo.com/videos/etown/subaruvs240sx.wmv

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG_ksIIMlyc

Here's another vid of that new STI, anyone know whats done to it??

I've seen other of her videos too, I think she has dipped into the 8s now.

I personally think using an STi for drag is a complete waste of the car.

But I have never heard of the STi being a hard to tune car. It's very tuner friendly as with most turbo cars.

What most ppl mean by hard to tune is that it doesn't respond well to bolt ons without ECU tuning. This is because the ECU in the impreza is designed to reject modifications so if you add on a larger exhaust, it will relearn itself to have the exhaust but run the same as before.

However, this is not to say that ECU tuning is hard in itself. There are many interceptor ECUs on the market which will do it as well as reflash software such as EcuTek which will override the factory settings on the ECU.

Where for most cars ECU tuning is to get the most out of mods; with the Imprezas it's an absolute must to get any sort of use out of your mods.

So Musashi, I have never heard of an ECU tuner who knows what they're doing to fry or lock up an impreza ECU.

I understand the turboed imprezas have not been in USDM for that long, but if you come to Australia where there a heaps of specialised WRX/STi tuners because we've had these cars since they were released in Japan, you'll see why my perception of these cars is totally different from yours. WRXs and STis are so common around here that most tuners know exactly what to do, and the specialists can do wonders.

So in short, WRX/STi is not hard to tune at all, or to get some nice power, finding someone in America who knows about them may be the difficulty (which is the perception I get from Musashi's posts).

i think that is true to a point, but the EVO has been here even shorter then the WRX and look what they have done with it here. i mean AMS got the most powerful EVO 8 in the world making well over 900whp, and it only took them like 2-3 years to accomplish.

Tat, u raise a very valid point. And i completely agree with you. The evo is a much more raw and tuneable car than the STi.

However, my point was merely to point out to Musashi that its no where near as crap as he makes it sound.

i think that is true to a point, but the EVO has been here even shorter then the WRX and look what they have done with it here. i mean AMS got the most powerful EVO 8 in the world making well over 900whp, and it only took them like 2-3 years to accomplish.

just to piss musashi off even more............



...we have a 930bhp evo VI. (at the flywheel i guess)

the newest impreza's are the best looking ones, you just need to change the grill

full article on aforementioned 9-second scoob here - http://www.rogerclarkmotorsport.co.uk/general/news/popup.asp?fld_id=44&graphicfield=fld_graphicRef

that's on the website of the company that built it.

I miss my evo..i don't see why you don't just get a TR and spend the rest of that money on mods, you could easily make that car a twelve second car for 6g's. Of course unless you want 6 gears, and bucket seats and other nice more luxory type stuff that makes the car heavier. By the way I think that the subarus drive a lot nicer than evos, as far as the way they hold the road. But thats just me. But evos are waaay more "tuner friendly"

better yet. get a impreza rs coupe, and swap in the sti engine with tranny...about 200 maybe less pounds to mess with and insurance will be a breeze...

better yet. get a impreza rs coupe, and swap in the sti engine with tranny...about 200 maybe less pounds to mess with and insurance will be a breeze...

Yeah, but it'll end up more expensive than an STi and you'll end up with soft breaks and suspension which will end up getting you killed in the wet.

Many a ppl have tried making a lower impreza into an STi, it comes out way more expensive and you don't get the feel of a real STi, and if you do, the cost doesn't justify it at all.

The best STi's are the the coupe ones. Much better looking, only weighs around 2800lbs, stiffer chassis, much much stronger engine than those POS 2.5L, could do with a stronger tranny though.

It's a pity Subaru only build a small number of these.

http://www.iwoc.co.uk/images/iwocmembers/imprsti4.jpg

It's a pity Subaru only build a small number of these.

http://www.iwoc.co.uk/images/iwocmembers/imprsti4.jpg
No kidding, thats what i wanted but i live in the US!

only problem with giving a WRX as much power as a STi is the tranny. you will break those things very often. the STi's very very strong tranny warrants the price difference alone.

only problem with giving a WRX as much power as a STi is the tranny. you will break those things very often. the STi's very very strong tranny warrants the price difference alone.

Yeah, those 6 speeds are supposed to be bulletproof. But I know this guy who keeps breaking them hahahah, crazy mofo.

what you want is an impreza 22b. or a type RA.

type RA has a closed-deck engine.
22b has a very strong 2.2-litre engine. it's also a coupé.

what you want is an impreza 22b. or a type RA.

type RA has a closed-deck engine.
22b has a very strong 2.2-litre engine. it's also a coupé.

:rolleyes: Where is he going to get a 22B? or an RA in the USA? Probably the same shop where you can get unicorns and leprechauns.

22B's still cost $100K+.

Sorry, but your comment is just totally ignorant.

maybe he diddnt know. relax. i see where u get the ignorant part from. y dont u just take out the rear seat, and that would do pretty good for weight reduction to get closer. im pretty sure a carbon hood and trunk would also help make it really light. but idk his budget or if he want attention or not. but its a start.

:rolleyes: Where is he going to get a 22B? or an RA in the USA? Probably the same shop where you can get unicorns and leprechauns.

22B's still cost $100K+.

Sorry, but your comment is just totally ignorant.

well, i don't know about the US, i live in england and there's no car that doesn't meet out emissions regulations, so we get them here and you can find them. im not aware of the price of the 22B, because i haven't looked into one.

it wasn't ignorant, i was unaware of the cost/availability. im used to living in a country where we get these cars.

well, i don't know about the US, i live in england and there's no car that doesn't meet out emissions regulations, so we get them here and you can find them. im not aware of the price of the 22B, because i haven't looked into one.

it wasn't ignorant, i was unaware of the cost/availability. im used to living in a country where we get these cars.

Only a limited number of 22B's were ever released in Japan and were all sold out within the first 24hrs.

I come from Australia, and as with Britain, there are a few floating around due to private imports etc. They were never sold on any market other than Japan.

Since the orignal poster is American, he would be looking at the US market, so tellling to get one of the rarest cars made that was never released outside of Japan, let alone America, is just stupid.

You know what is amazing about this thread? ......I thought it was spelled "Leprikaun" but its actually spelled "Leprechaun"........That just blew my fucking mind man! wow awsome...I love you guys! seriously.

Hahaha, no worries man, whatever we can do to help :P ;)