Question about getting a system
arachn1d
05-10-2006, 03:00 AM
Hey all,
Alright so right now I still have a beater car. In about a year I want to get a camaro.
The thing is, I really really love my music. I was wondering if it would be "okay" to upgrade the speakers in my current car (1999 saturn s-series) and eventually transfer them over to my camaro?
If yes, then I was wondering what should I get as a nice upgrade? Nothing to expensive, but just some stuff to give a nice "feel" I do want to "feel the hit" so to speak. So let me know.
If the music I listen to counts then I basically play metal and hip-hop.
Thanks.
Alright so right now I still have a beater car. In about a year I want to get a camaro.
The thing is, I really really love my music. I was wondering if it would be "okay" to upgrade the speakers in my current car (1999 saturn s-series) and eventually transfer them over to my camaro?
If yes, then I was wondering what should I get as a nice upgrade? Nothing to expensive, but just some stuff to give a nice "feel" I do want to "feel the hit" so to speak. So let me know.
If the music I listen to counts then I basically play metal and hip-hop.
Thanks.
RickwithaTbird
05-10-2006, 03:18 AM
the saturn and camaro could possibly have the same size speakers since they are both GM, so there's a little hope. If nobody here knows off the top of their head, then try going to Crutchfield and using the "what fits my car" option. Check what fits your saturn, then check what fits the year camaro you plan on buying. Hopefully they match.
As far as stereo equipment goes, metal and hip hop are on opposite ends of the spectrum. But that's not a big deal. Especially since you aren't buying subs.
Anyways, are you just planning on upgrading your speakers and running them off the head unit? Or do you also plan to buy an amp to power them?
How much can you spend and how much of a difference would you like to hear?
As far as stereo equipment goes, metal and hip hop are on opposite ends of the spectrum. But that's not a big deal. Especially since you aren't buying subs.
Anyways, are you just planning on upgrading your speakers and running them off the head unit? Or do you also plan to buy an amp to power them?
How much can you spend and how much of a difference would you like to hear?
arachn1d
05-10-2006, 03:32 AM
I can spend between $400-$1000.
I want to feel the bass bassically. And not have it sound "distorted" if I make it loud.
I want to feel the bass bassically. And not have it sound "distorted" if I make it loud.
RickwithaTbird
05-10-2006, 03:36 AM
I can spend between $400-$1000.
oh boy. this is gonna be fun. theres a lot of possibilities... get ready for all the suggestions.
oh boy. this is gonna be fun. theres a lot of possibilities... get ready for all the suggestions.
arachn1d
05-10-2006, 03:38 AM
Sarcasm? Or is that alot for a system? lol
RickwithaTbird
05-10-2006, 03:41 AM
no, to both. I'm just saying $1000 is plenty to build a solid system. There will be a lot of suggestions. Get your pay pal account ready haha.
arachn1d
05-10-2006, 03:44 AM
Oh alright cool.
Where can I find out what speaker sizes both models use?
And when am I getting suggestions? (When more members view? haha)
Where can I find out what speaker sizes both models use?
And when am I getting suggestions? (When more members view? haha)
arachn1d
05-10-2006, 04:09 AM
I looked at some modding sights and I think they speakers are 6.5's and 12.5's
arachn1d
05-10-2006, 04:19 AM
And I found out camaro's use 6.5's not sure if there are any 12's? Only came across the number 6.5 in my searches.
dave92cherokee
05-10-2006, 07:47 AM
The speakers that would fit and be transferable from your saturn to the camaro you plan on buying (depending on what year camaro you plan to buy) would be 5 1/4 in the front doors and 6 1/2 in the rear deck of your saturn which would transfer into a camaro's doors and the rear seat area. If you plan on buying a 95 or newer camaro then go with 6 1/2 in the doors and rear deck of your saturn as they will fit in the doors and rear passenger area of the camaro. If you get a good set of components up front and some 2 or 3 ways for the back and put an amp to them you will feel it a little. If you really want to feel it get a set of components for the front, a set of 2 or 3 ways for the back, a 4 channel amp to push them all, and then a sub or two for the trunk and amp for the sub. For the music you listen to I would recommend going with a pair of 10's or 12's depending on how much bass is in the metal you listen to. I'm sure that pretty soon like tonight once they get back from work ng, cbfry, and paul will chime in with recommendations for what brands to use and the most efficient sq setup for your price range.
arachn1d
05-10-2006, 04:52 PM
Alright cool thanks.
Can someone add where I can buy these parts and have them installed? I have no idea if I could do that myself.
"If you get a good set of components up front and some 2 or 3 ways for the back and put an amp to them you will feel it a little."
The only thing I understand is "amp" I have no idea what "components, and 2 or 3 ways" are for a car.
Help me out :)
I'm mainly looking for this, to the new people.
"Thump to feel" but not to loud that I get a ticket.
And "clarity" so if I turn it up, it doesn't get distorted.
I don't want to spend more than $500 at first, then $500 a little later.
Can someone add where I can buy these parts and have them installed? I have no idea if I could do that myself.
"If you get a good set of components up front and some 2 or 3 ways for the back and put an amp to them you will feel it a little."
The only thing I understand is "amp" I have no idea what "components, and 2 or 3 ways" are for a car.
Help me out :)
I'm mainly looking for this, to the new people.
"Thump to feel" but not to loud that I get a ticket.
And "clarity" so if I turn it up, it doesn't get distorted.
I don't want to spend more than $500 at first, then $500 a little later.
JunkTitleGolf
05-10-2006, 04:59 PM
Components are like 2 and 3 ways but instead of them being in one speaker there is 2 or 3 speakers. Hopefully that helps.
RickwithaTbird
05-11-2006, 04:50 AM
well he doesn't know what 2 or 3 ways are in the first place.
2 way speakers are speakers that have a mid range driver and a tweeter in one speaker. Mid being "one way", highs from the tweeter being the "second way" so to speak. You can imagine what a 3 way speaker is.
components are sets of speakers with separate drivers per frequency range so that you get a set of dedicated speakers and you power them separately. It's far less efficient, but much better for performance.
I'm sure we can find you one or two pairs of components and an amp to power them for around 500$ I'll let the other guys do that though. I'm not an ebay champ... to say the least.
2 way speakers are speakers that have a mid range driver and a tweeter in one speaker. Mid being "one way", highs from the tweeter being the "second way" so to speak. You can imagine what a 3 way speaker is.
components are sets of speakers with separate drivers per frequency range so that you get a set of dedicated speakers and you power them separately. It's far less efficient, but much better for performance.
I'm sure we can find you one or two pairs of components and an amp to power them for around 500$ I'll let the other guys do that though. I'm not an ebay champ... to say the least.
arachn1d
05-11-2006, 02:14 PM
Alright so by powering them each individually, does that mean I need a dedicated amp for them?
And are components just 3 speakers? And you put each speaker somewhere in the front? Or is it a set of 2 3 speakers and each 3 go on each door on the front?
I heard to just get 6x9's for the back, instead of components. Mainly because you shouldn't be hearing them much, they're only there for "depth, or stage level"?.
And are components just 3 speakers? And you put each speaker somewhere in the front? Or is it a set of 2 3 speakers and each 3 go on each door on the front?
I heard to just get 6x9's for the back, instead of components. Mainly because you shouldn't be hearing them much, they're only there for "depth, or stage level"?.
JunkTitleGolf
05-12-2006, 12:24 AM
Ok...I am confused about your explaination of component but I think you are along the right lines. Each side will have 2 or 3 speakers (depending on the set) and it will come with a crossover for each side. That is what you power with the amp. And the 6x9 thing is true. It will add some to the bass. I think his sn is Alaphanos or something like that and he doesn't have any speakers in the back just subs.
RickwithaTbird
05-12-2006, 02:36 AM
I heard to just get 6x9's for the back, instead of components. Mainly because you shouldn't be hearing them much, they're only there for "depth, or stage level"?.
That's a preference. I think it sounds like shit when you can tell where your speakers are (ie music only from the front). To me there should be a perfect balance between front, middle, and rear so that you can look at any area of the car and it will sound like there is a speaker there. I'm a fan of perfect surround sound.
and as far as your question about placement of components goes: You can be creative. Car audio is a medium for expression. You can customize your car however you like. Put your speakers any place you see fit.
That's a preference. I think it sounds like shit when you can tell where your speakers are (ie music only from the front). To me there should be a perfect balance between front, middle, and rear so that you can look at any area of the car and it will sound like there is a speaker there. I'm a fan of perfect surround sound.
and as far as your question about placement of components goes: You can be creative. Car audio is a medium for expression. You can customize your car however you like. Put your speakers any place you see fit.
dave92cherokee
05-12-2006, 08:07 AM
Something to think about is... 1. How long will you have your saturn before you get the camaro? 2. How often will someone be riding in the back of the saturn (and camaro when you get it)? 3. If you want great sound in the saturn and camaro best thing to do is get 2 sets of 6 1/2" components and they can be your choice either 2 or 3 way (which means either a 6 1/2" speaker and a small tweeter or a 6 1/2" speaker a smaller speaker and then a tweeter). Then you can put the component speakers in each door if you have a 4 door or in the front doors and the rear deck and then be inventive of where to put the tweeters, and then get a 4 channel amp to power the speakers. That would work out good as when you get the camaro you can put the speakers from the doors of your saturn in the doors of it and the speakers either from the rear doors or the rear deck into the side pillars for the back seat of the camaro and then get a sub or two for the camaro to give it that extra push.
arachn1d
05-12-2006, 03:55 PM
Awesome advice.
What about a headunit? Don't I need one of those to?
So I assume that a set of components is about $200?
(components)200x 2 = 400.
(headunit, no idea, $200 again?) 200+400 = 600
(Amp, again.. no idea) 200+600 = $800.
Mighty expensive. Is there any way to make it a little cheaper? I don't want to go all out right away.
What about a headunit? Don't I need one of those to?
So I assume that a set of components is about $200?
(components)200x 2 = 400.
(headunit, no idea, $200 again?) 200+400 = 600
(Amp, again.. no idea) 200+600 = $800.
Mighty expensive. Is there any way to make it a little cheaper? I don't want to go all out right away.
pimprolla112
05-12-2006, 04:11 PM
You can get set of 2 or 3 way speakers for the rear and save yourself a ton of money, and compnents are made for the best sq possible. You can go the multi compnenet setup but its a lot cheaper to go with compnents up front and 2 ways in the rear. ANd look on ebay you can get good sets of componenet speakers for less than 100. Same with HU i bought my girl a panasonic for her car off ebay it was 218 shipped we went to circuit city mainly so i could fuck with the little car audio fucks who try to pawn off sony and pyle. Well exact same HU was 435 in circuit city. You can do HU speakers, and an amp for less then 600.
PaulD
05-12-2006, 07:30 PM
I have no speakers further back than the subs in the front door. The deal is, almost all recordings are in 2 channel stereo - designed to be played by a pair of speakers in front of you. Playing a stereo recording thru a "surround sound" type system will always sound unnatural.
A 3-way front stage is tough to pull off ... an 8" midbass can only be installed in a few places up front. The resulting sound of a 3 way sound stage up front is usually very good though if it's tuned correctly.
A 3-way front stage is tough to pull off ... an 8" midbass can only be installed in a few places up front. The resulting sound of a 3 way sound stage up front is usually very good though if it's tuned correctly.
Automotive Network, Inc., Copyright ©2026
