Lost my job

Thank you Howard for implacing a system that's destroying our country.

Thank you howard for allowing workers to be sacked, on the spot, for no reason.

Thank you howard for FUCKING AUSTRALIA OVER.

We love you.

I lost my job, and the reasons they told me were made up. This is insane.

The clash begun about 5 months ago, I was accused to telling another female staff member, to her face, that I thought she had P.M.S. This was NOT true, and no matter how much I defended my self, they didn't want to know.

About a month later, I was accused to saying to a Duty Managers face, and I quote: "I do not want to do ashtrays for 8 fucking hours". This didn't happen.

I was told, on friday, that Zoe, the Gaming (I work in a club) Area (pokies) Team Leader (person who is in charge) asked me to do something, I refused and said "because I'm a man", This is not only bullshit, but they documented this crap, and is half the reason I got fired, because I don't do anything.

I can't prove my innocence, and as much as they REFUSE to prove me that I did it, by that, actually refused to show me the documentation that this allegedly occured, they refuse to put me on the roster, hence forth forcing me to quit because they can't legally fire me. In a sence, I have been fired.

My theory, which is almost proven:

We have Duty Managers, on weekdays we have 1 on, weeknights monday-thursday we have 1 on. Friday and Saturday nights we have 2-3 on for obvious reasons. They are incharge of whats going on, and incharge of the staff and oversea the club. Then there are Team Leaders, normal workers like us, but have a higher responsibility, they oversea the workers and we always have a team leader on, they are the staff's boss and oversea specific parts of the club. Then there are the workers. Us.

The theory:

Team Leaders are forever trying to impress the Duty Managers, and also the management to gain them "repuation" as being hard working "potential future leaders", they will do ANYTHING to get there. Inncluding backstab them selves to get a head over the other people.

But they can't backstab them selfes, and they are not going to get promoted by just "doing a good job". Doing a good job where I work[ed] is like pissing your self in a dark suit, you get a warm feeling inside but no one notices. They get promoted by picking out the bad apples, so they made shit up about me (its painfuly obvious), and got me fired, because although they can't prove it, they sure as hell can control it, now they are seen as the "gods" because they are so good they can forsee the good workers, and the bad. I was NOT a bad worker.

I never complained, I was always enthusiastic, I loved my job. I really fucking did.

4am finish? Who cares? I love my job, and I always went home sweating from exhaustion. Always.

I loved working there, and I was warned within a few weeks of me working there that I will get backstabbed. It is a reality.

This sucks.

www.tradies.com.au (http://www.tradies.com.au), go nuts.

Sorry to hear it man...

that's fucked, can't you take a legal route in that? if they effecitvely fired you isn't there some way of forcing them to show the documentation and/or prove that you said what you allegedly did?

No, because our leader Mr. Howard made it insanely easy for employers to sack bad workers, all my work had to do was made up some crap to back up their shit that I was a bad worker and bye-bye job. It's a legal loop hole.

Besides, if this shit has happened I can't go back there.

Dude I know what you mean. In Arizona, they have this law called "Right to Work" law. Meaning they always hire ppl but they have to fire ppl and they dont have to give you a reason. Its bullshit but thats the law.

thats fucked up

-Davo - go and find a better one :) And fuck Howard.

Does anything good ever happen to you? I mean, between black eyes, lost jobs, and a plethora of other things...

Sorry to hear. I agree with Oz. Go find a better one.

lol not that easy, I've started looking again, app'ed for another club, and soon a pub thats being built.

Employment tribunal?

Fark, in NZ it's hard for an employer to just sack someone on the spot. They have to jump through all the fucking loops otherwise it's illegal.

I know someone who got sacked very illegaly for the most bullshit reason as well.

really? please tell more, i'm interested.

I can't really do shit, I'm casual, to begin with.

While it sucks to be fired for bullshit reasons, I don't see why its the governments job to give you job security. The one that pays the bills should make the call on who gets paid.

lol i got fired and was in a union cause the leader wanted his son to work my spot. i sued of course and lost but the union lost the job contract due to shady practices.

While it sucks to be fired for bullshit reasons, I don't see why its the governments job to give you job security. The one that pays the bills should make the call on who gets paid.
Yogs that is a crock of shit and you know it. The one that pays the bills? I am one of the ones that pays the bills at my company. I get billed at $80+ per hour, plus travel. I get paid less than $30 an hour to perform a service (IT Tech). I am the one paying the bills, and I can assure you I don't get to call shit, because I'm not management.

Many companies have management who are absolutely shit, making calls like this every day.

Think again.

:banghead:

While it sucks to be fired for bullshit reasons, I don't see why its the governments job to give you job security. The one that pays the bills should make the call on who gets paid.


I'm very much agreed, if someone gets fired, it's not the governments problem, it's a problem between the employer and the employee. Davo should be seething at his shithead employer, not Howard (Honestly you Aussies must have NO confidence in your Labour party whatsoever, I mean you've voted this clown in 12 years running even though the majority of the people hate him). At the end of the day it's thier company and they can run it as they want, the government should not be interfering in private matters such as these. If they want to run the pub like dickheads, then the karmic circle will close and they'll be bitten on the bum when the place is crawling with retards.


Sorry to hear about it Davo, better luck next time, I too know how rubbish management can spoil a great job.

Australian politics is comletely shit. The Labour party is an absolute joke, there IS no opposition to the current government at the moment. I think we need to pay our politicians more to try and attempt some Industry Leaders into politics.

While it may seem to the Americans that it's not our governments fault, true, but our government IS at fault for failure to protect Australian Workers (or should I say, purposly stripping down job security that was once inplaces in Australian industries, thats' right, they changed it).The law was changed (less than 2 months ago) to allow bad workers to be sacked on the spot without warning, in my case, my employed exploited this legal "flaw" and sacked me for "bullshit reasons", this does suck :(


I won't go into detail how this affects our country, but anyone, in any institution (Except heath care and public health) can be fired AT WILL on the spot FOR NO REASON.

This does not protect familys, and does not secure a future for young Australian workers, disagree at will, but it cost me my job, and I know a lot of people already who have lost their apprenticeships souly because their employee did not want them. Some future we have.

(Honestly you Aussies must have NO confidence in your Labour party whatsoever, I mean you've voted this clown in 12 years running even though the majority of the people hate him)


I have been saying the same thing for the past 3 years.

Agree with Oz though.

I'm not yet done with my ex-employer, once I find a new job I'm slaming him with a 4 page essay (and the directors of the board which we have close family members on) on how I proved they are corrupt.

The funny thing is, to an extent, my family just about started the club I got fired from.

Back in the 1950's on the block of land the club sits on now, belonged to 2 family's, my fathers side and good friends of my grandfathers bought the land out to start a pub, which started a trade union club, my grandfather had no input (that I know of) in the building or management of the pub (which was later turned into a club) but was member number 1, and over-looked the club as the president of the board of directors, he retired in the 1980's, but his friends stayed on, and one of them is still apart of the board of directors, I should of brought this up earlyer, this could get interesting.

Yogs that is a crock of shit and you know it. The one that pays the bills? I am one of the ones that pays the bills at my company. I get billed at $80+ per hour, plus travel. I get paid less than $30 an hour to perform a service (IT Tech). I am the one paying the bills, and I can assure you I don't get to call shit, because I'm not management.

Many companies have management who are absolutely shit, making calls like this every day.

Think again.

:banghead:

Bullshit. You don't pay a fucking thing. They pay you to do a job.

Many companies? Hell, most companies have shitty management. They screw people over and it sucks, but the governments has no business ensure someones job when a private company is signing the paycheck. That decision belongs to the management - not matter how screwed up they may be.

While it may seem to the Americans that it's not our governments fault, true, but our government IS at fault for failure to protect Australian Workers (or should I say, purposly stripping down job security that was once inplaces in Australian industries, thats' right, they changed it).The law was changed (less than 2 months ago) to allow bad workers to be sacked on the spot without warning, in my case, my employed exploited this legal "flaw" and sacked me for "bullshit reasons", this does suck :(


I won't go into detail how this affects our country, but anyone, in any institution (Except heath care and public health) can be fired AT WILL on the spot FOR NO REASON.

In the state of Michigan (like many others) we have 'at will' employment. An employer can fire a worker for any reason and a worker can walk off the job for any reason. Its the way it should be. You choose to work and the employer chooses to pay you. Either side should be able to walk away.

Good management should recognize good workers and do what they can to retain them. Sounds like the company you work(ed) for have piss poor management and it'll bite them in the ass in the long run.

This does not protect familys, and does not secure a future for young Australian workers, disagree at will, but it cost me my job, and I know a lot of people already who have lost their apprenticeships souly because their employee did not want them. Some future we have.

You should make your own future.

I don't buy into the socialist idea that its someone elses job to look out for you. (which is not to say their isn't a place for government agencies to help in times of need)

I'm not yet done with my ex-employer, once I find a new job I'm slaming him with a 4 page essay (and the directors of the board which we have close family members on) on how I proved they are corrupt.

Sounds good, as long as you don't care about the bridge you're about to burn.

ouch... ...move to the states? i hope you're able to sort this shit out davo, don't worry, you'll land on your feet again. you've done it before, whats stopping you from doing it again

I told y'all that they made up crap to get rid of me, well I realised tonight that I did 3 shifts after I turned 20 and they stopped giving me shifts, the pay was suppose to go up at age 20, they didn't want to pay me the extra 30 bucks a week so they fired me. :(

Let this thread not be a politial argument, just needed to vent my anger, thkx all.

It's so hard to find a job here, I can't survive without a job.