GTP vs. some sort of import?

Can anyone tell what the other car is? It ran a 14.5 in the vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6NIz7tySWE

or

http://download.yousendit.com/B38BDE55347C6F07

http://www.clubgp.com/newforum/upfiles/23335/Qo39849.jpg
http://www.clubgp.com/newforum/upfiles/23335/Qo39849.jpg

i'm not sure, but that car really looks like a scion Xa

Sorta does look like an xA, but you can't really get a good look at it in that video.

Toyota matrix???

Toyota matrix???


Running a 14.5? There aren't enough turbos in the world:grinyes:

it's kinda too small to be a matrix, and plus, it doesn't have to be just turbo to run in the 14s, they had to do more than just a turbo upgrade.

I wanted to say pt cruiser gt because with mods a turbo could get down in 14.5. By the position of the side marker however I'm going to say 05' civic si (although it would take a bit of modification for a 14.5.

Edit: upon further analysis of the taillights I'd say this is your culprit. The position of the side markers in front and taillights being up high led me to this. It would agin take a bit of work for a 14.5 I would think.
http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/10/svtfocus03_01.jpg
Ford Focus SVT

Which car are we even talking about? The one in the left lane? Or right?

i suppose we're talking about the car that loses? i thought we were.

The one in the left lane kinda looks like a Prelude from the taillights. Can't really make it out though.

well, i really don't think that's a prelude, or a focus, hey we can jump to conclusions and say it's a honda fit :P

Looks like a hatch

VW GTi?

there's no way that was a GTI, that GTI would have smoked that gtp.

there's no way that was a GTI, that GTI would have smoked that gtp.


:lol:

Not when that GTP runs 11s.

:lol:

Not when that GTP runs 11s.


I think he was kidding... I'm sure even a stock GTP could beat a stock GTi....

I think he was kidding... I'm sure even a stock GTP could beat a stock GTi....


you have proof that's possible? cuz i don't believe that, and i won't back down unless i see facts, or find them, whichever comes first.:grinyes:

you have proof that's possible? cuz i don't believe that, and i won't back down unless i see facts, or find them, whichever comes first.:grinyes:

Don't some of the GTP's come with 260HP stock or something like that? I could be wrong...

i think it's time for a little reeesearch :P
for the sake of argument, should i look for the latest models? or matching years, cuz this debate could go on forever, let's narrow it down eh?

i think it's time for a little reeesearch :P
for the sake of argument, should i look for the latest models? or matching years, cuz this debate could go on forever, let's narrow it down eh?


I dunno, whatever, I know the factory supercharged ones come with 240HP, then jump to 260 in some other year....

Well this may help:

97-03 GTP = mid-high 14s(SC3.8L(gen3 M90) 240hp)
04-05 GTP = mid-high 14s(SC3.8L(genV M90) 260hp) (Its slightly heavier)
06 GT = mid high 14s(SC3.8L(genV M90) 260hp)
05-06 GXP = high 13s-low 14s(LS4 V8 303hp)

well as far some of the specs i've found on the 02 and the 06 gti, they lose against the gtp, but there are many factors and usually a race never ends the same unless the car is ridiciously fast, i still favor the gti, cuz i love that car, oh i don't know this is going nowhere, i need someone with more knowledge because mine is limited.

I could be a little wrong on some of these
(1991-1998) Mk. III GTi 2.0 = 150hp
(1991-1998) Mk. III GTi VR6 = 172hp
(2000-2001) Mk. IV GTi 1.8t = 150hp
(2000-2001) Mk. IV GTi VR6 = 174hp
(2002-2005) Mk. IV GTi 1.8t = 180hp
(2002-2005) Mk. IV GTi VR6 = 200hp
(2006+) Mk. V GTi 2.0t = 200hp

So the power numbers stock v. stock favor the GTP, but you also have to figure in that the GTi will weigh less. Most GTis that you will see these days around a track will be Mk. IV 1.8t's w/ a chip that gives it +30-40 hp and +50-60 lb-ft.

So my guess would be
chipped GTi > stock GTP > stock GTi

I could be a little wrong on some of these
(1991-1998) Mk. III GTi 2.0 = 150hp
(1991-1998) Mk. III GTi VR6 = 172hp
(2000-2001) Mk. IV GTi 1.8t = 150hp
(2000-2001) Mk. IV GTi VR6 = 174hp
(2002-2005) Mk. IV GTi 1.8t = 180hp
(2002-2005) Mk. IV GTi VR6 = 200hp
(2006+) Mk. V GTi 2.0t = 200hp

So the power numbers stock v. stock favor the GTP, but you also have to figure in that the GTi will weigh less. Most GTis that you will see these days around a track will be Mk. IV 1.8t's w/ a chip that gives it +30-40 hp and +50-60 lb-ft.

So my guess would be
chipped GTi > stock GTP > stock GTi

Yes, but the GTP's respond very well to mods too with their stock blower...

Yes, but the GTP's respond very well to mods too with their stock blower...

see what i mean? the fact will only bring more debates. seems i started a pointless argument, but i enjoyed the chat:grinno:

2nd video kept screwing up loading. But I also thought it looked like a Focus SVT from the 1st video.

looked like a 1992-95 hatch civic

After much review...the ruling on the strip is 02-05 Civic Si...the ugly and slow one. And I can even understand the 14.5 with turbo...they're pretty solid upper 15's...so add i/e/h and it might make sense.