Ah, sweet, sweet justice

Some of you may remember back in early February about the cop shooting the Iraq veteran after telling him to stand up. The media pretty much forgot about it after a week, and in case anyone was wondering, sweet justice is being served to the prick cop that did this. The article is pretty old, but I hadn't heard anything about it in months and I figured neither had many of you.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-030706shooting_lat,0,480649.story

S.B. Deputy Charged in Shooting After Chase
By Lance Pugmire, Times Staff Writer
5:28 PM PST, March 7, 2006

A San Bernardino County sheriff's deputy who shot a suspect three times while being videotaped was charged today with attempted voluntary manslaughter and faces 18½ years in prison.

San Bernardino County Dist. Atty. Michael A. Ramos announced that charges have been filed against Deputy Ivory Webb Jr. It is the first time that Ramos' office has filed a criminal charge against a law enforcement officer involved in an on-duty shooting.

Webb shot Elio Carrion, an Air Force police officer who had served in Iraq, after a high-speed chase that ended in Chino. Carrion was a passenger in the vehicle.

At a press conference, Ramos said the evidence showed that Carrion was obeying Webb's order to get up when the deputy opened fire.

"We listened to it [the videotape] over and over. Not once did we hear Deputy Webb say, 'Don't get up.' We heard, 'Get up,' " Ramos said.

Webb "was a deputy who according to the law acted unreasonably," Ramos said.

In the videotape shot by a man standing nearby, Carrion, 21, appears to be obeying Webb's commands to get up from the ground when the deputy fires three times from close range.

Carrion, a senior airman who had recently returned from a tour of duty in Iraq, continues to recover from his wounds.

"Thank God that God was looking out for Elio Carrion when he was shot at point-blank range," his lawyer, Luis Carrillo, said this afternoon.

Carillo said his client's survival was "a miracle," and the fact that the videotape was made was a second miracle. He said Carrion is struggling with his physical therapy, but was upbeat on Sunday.

Webb, an eight-year veteran of the department who was based at the Chino Hills station, is the son of a former Compton police chief. The deputy, who was placed on paid administrative leave after the shooting, also is a former University of Iowa wide receiver who played in the 1982 Rose Bowl.

The Jan. 29 shooting occurred after Webb was involved in a high-speed pursuit at speeds of more than 100 mph through a residential area in Chino.

After the Corvette crashed into a fence, a resident on the street, Jose Luis Valdes, began videotaping the incident. In portions of the poor-quality recording, Carrion is sprawled on the ground and tells Webb that he is "on the same side" as Webb and means him "no harm."

After repeatedly ordering Carrion to stay down and "shut up," Webb appears to tell Carrion to "get up, get up," then fires three shots at the airman as he begins to rise.

Both Ramos and San Bernardino County Sheriff Gary Penrod took the unusual step of expressing concern for Carrion and his family after the incident. The FBI also launched an investigation into the shooting, and was asked to enhance the quality of the video.

The San Bernardino County district attorney has reviewed 131 officer-involved shootings and in-custody deaths since 2000.

The driver of Carrion's car, Luis Fernando Escobedo, was charged with attempting to evade a peace officer while driving recklessly and driving under the influence, carrying a maximum of three years in state prison.

Ramos acknowledged the difficulties facing his prosecutors, given Webb's eight years on the force.

"This is a very difficult decision for us," Ramos said. "But when the facts say a crime has been committed, it is our duty to file charges. We will let the community decide if it's a crime."

ooooh 18.5 years?.......all the lonely dudes he put away are really gonna make him a man in there

Good...the fucker deserves it.

When he goes to prison he'll be dead within days.

When he goes to prison he'll be dead within days.

Yep. Or he'll be bitch no. 1 by somebody who thinks it was cute that he was a college football player.

do the crime, then do the time!

lol jail time? yeah right. He will lose his job, go on prohbation for a few years, do many many many hours of community service. Most he will do is less than a year it a county jail, which is nothing like a prison.

Why? Well for one he didnt kill the guy, lucky him. So its not murder or manslaughter. 2 he is/was a cop. His defense will argue that he has a very stressfull job, and in the stress of the situation he panicked and did the wrong thing. 3 is father was a former police chief. 4 the judge will know if he gets sent to jail, he will be killed in jail.

You guys are really harsh on him, yeah what he did was wrong. But its not like he had malice when he did it. I highly doubt he wanted to kill him. Being a street cop is extremly stressfull, its like fighting a war.

You guys are really harsh on him, yeah what he did was wrong. But its not like he had malice when he did it. I highly doubt he wanted to kill him. Being a street cop is extremly stressfull, its like fighting a war.


So if a cop was telling you to stand up and you did. Then proceeded to get shot 3 times point blank. Would you think he was not trying to kill you? Thats bullshit i dont care how you look at it. A kick to the stomach would prove a better point and shooting him like that. The guy was listenin to the cops orders and because of that he got shot. Fuck that cop, he deserves alot worse than 18 years max.

I highly doubt he wanted to kill him. Being a street cop is extremly stressfull, its like fighting a war.
Gee, I just wish the victim knew what it was like for the cop, you know, to fight a war. Oh wait, he just got back from motherfucking Iraq.

ohh gee nothing in that report says it was the cop or a cops voice telling the guy to get up. All you hear in the video is someone say stand up, you dont see the cop say it. And the Article doesnt say that the cop said it or a cop said it.

You dont know what happened, you werent there. What if the cop thought he saw him grap a shiny metal object from his boot?

Im not defending the cops actions, im just looking at it from all angles. Do you really think the cop told him to get up and then shot him? Come on.

ohh gee nothing in that report says it was the cop or a cops voice telling the guy to get up. All you hear in the video is someone say stand up, you dont see the cop say it. And the Article doesnt say that the cop said it or a cop said it.

You dont know what happened, you werent there. What if the cop thought he saw him grap a shiny metal object from his boot?

Im not defending the cops actions, im just looking at it from all angles. Do you really think the cop told him to get up and then shot him? Come on.


Your right, im sure he was going for a knife or a gun so he could shoot/stab the cop. Seriously. No matter how you look at it. Three shots were NOT necessary.

ohh gee nothing in that report says it was the cop or a cops voice telling the guy to get up.

i'm sure that was discussed in the trial, and it was him that said it, thus the 18.5 year sentence.

well i'm happy, sort of. i mean the prick cop's going to jail but the soldier's still recovering from being shot 3 times. I wish they said the cop couldn't come out until the soldier recovered, or 18 years, whichever came last. i don't care how you look at it, the cop was wrong to shoot him, and you do hear the cp say get up, or at least it sounds alot like he is, plus the FBI enhanced the video when it was going to court so they probably got a much better idea of who said it.