vr4 question
kdiddy8
05-03-2006, 05:19 PM
I was driving down the road yesterday and every time i push cluth , or let off the gas my car cuts off. It runs fine as long as i give it gas, but if i let off it just cuts off. I replaced the fuel filter today and its still doing it? Do you think its the fuel pump???If I set it on cruise its ok, but like i said when i put in neutral or let off the gas, the tach goes down, the dash lights come on, and the car cuts off. My check engine light hasnt come on, I didnt know if it was the fuel pump, or a fuse that controls the fuel pump?
Igovert500
05-03-2006, 07:09 PM
Did you plug the MAS back in, after you did the work on teh fuel filter.
Also, I'd check to make sure your y-pipe and intake piping are correctly and firmly attached.
Also, I'd check to make sure your y-pipe and intake piping are correctly and firmly attached.
kdiddy8
05-04-2006, 12:13 AM
Yeh all that looks good. A couple have ppl have told me to check hoses around intake? I looked at all them they look find. is there a particular one i need to check? anyone have any pics they can sho me?
Igovert500
05-04-2006, 01:02 AM
OK, first off, check your MAS. I'm assuming you know what that is, but if not, that is the box type thing, attached to your intake, before the throttle body. Check to make sure the plug is securely attached.
Then double check ANY and ALL intake piping that you touched when you worked on your fuel filter.
I sincerely doubt this has anything to do with your fuel pump. Chances are, something that you moved, removed & replaced, didn't get put back on completely. Double check everything from the intake to the throttle body.
Then double check ANY and ALL intake piping that you touched when you worked on your fuel filter.
I sincerely doubt this has anything to do with your fuel pump. Chances are, something that you moved, removed & replaced, didn't get put back on completely. Double check everything from the intake to the throttle body.
Hotshot8792
05-04-2006, 12:30 PM
i agree, if an intercooler pipe is loose enough, it won't be able to create a large enough vacuum to keep the car running when you aren't moving.
Linebckr49
05-04-2006, 01:37 PM
i agree, if an intercooler pipe is loose enough, it won't be able to create a large enough vacuum to keep the car running when you aren't moving.
but then when he sets it on cruise, it runs fine.
what about the TPS or something to do with that area?
but then when he sets it on cruise, it runs fine.
what about the TPS or something to do with that area?
Igovert500
05-04-2006, 08:15 PM
Doubt it. With cruise on, it's just like giving it gas, the car is still being fed enough fuel not to die. But when it goes to idle, it dies...
Plus this started right after work was done on teh fuel filter, where she probably unplugged the MAS and removed the y-pipe for extra room. So it makes sense that it is probably just something not put properly back together on the intake end of things.
Plus this started right after work was done on teh fuel filter, where she probably unplugged the MAS and removed the y-pipe for extra room. So it makes sense that it is probably just something not put properly back together on the intake end of things.
kdiddy8
05-04-2006, 09:54 PM
No.. It did it for 2 days before i touched the fuel filter. I did the fuel filter to see if it would fix it. The mas is connected like it should be? Me and 3 friends looked over it today. Where is a control module, someone said it might be that????
Igovert500
05-05-2006, 12:47 AM
control module? You mean the ECU? While the caps on teh ECUs do go bad on the first gens, this doesn't sound like the symptoms.
Seriously, if i had a dime for everytime somebody suggested the ECU as the source of any car problem, I'd own a 2nd vr4. I don't know why people jump to one of the most expensive parts on the car whenever something goes wrong.
I REALLY think this is an intake leak. Check your y-pipe, intercooler piping, MAS plug, all the intake piping from the filter to the throttle body. I really think your problem lies there.
Seriously, if i had a dime for everytime somebody suggested the ECU as the source of any car problem, I'd own a 2nd vr4. I don't know why people jump to one of the most expensive parts on the car whenever something goes wrong.
I REALLY think this is an intake leak. Check your y-pipe, intercooler piping, MAS plug, all the intake piping from the filter to the throttle body. I really think your problem lies there.
kdiddy8
05-07-2006, 02:51 PM
I checked over all the plugs and wiring everything is connected. Could it be a mass air inflow sensor or something???
Igovert500
05-07-2006, 10:11 PM
It could be, but not likely.
Do you have an K&N or open element filter. Did you recently reoil it?
Have you checked your intake piping yet. I swear I think this is your problem. A crack in the y-pipe or a loose fitting...
Do you have an K&N or open element filter. Did you recently reoil it?
Have you checked your intake piping yet. I swear I think this is your problem. A crack in the y-pipe or a loose fitting...
kdiddy8
05-08-2006, 12:31 PM
Yes , well I put a k and n filter on it about 3 weeks ago. Just the filter. I have looked down the y pipe everything looks connected, i do not see any leaks or craks.
Igovert500
05-08-2006, 07:03 PM
Did you oil the filter when you put it on, because that could lead to MAS problems if you over oiled it. Also did you do any damage to the mesh screen part of the MAS unit, while installing the K&N?
You could try to find a local member near you either on here or 3si that would be willing to let you swap MAS to see if that is the problem.
I would suggest more than just a once look-over of the intake piping. Generally most leaks/cracks aren't blatantly obvious. I'd pressure test, or at least go in for a closer look but that is just me.
You could try to find a local member near you either on here or 3si that would be willing to let you swap MAS to see if that is the problem.
I would suggest more than just a once look-over of the intake piping. Generally most leaks/cracks aren't blatantly obvious. I'd pressure test, or at least go in for a closer look but that is just me.
kdiddy8
05-08-2006, 07:49 PM
Yes I put a k ans n filter on about 3 weeks ago. Me and my mechanic went over all the piping everything looks good. He said something about the idiling like its missing he said maybe a plug or wire. But then he said something about an idel arm or something????
Igovert500
05-08-2006, 08:50 PM
I understand that you put the K&N on, but please read my post and answer the questions I'm asking.
Did you oil the filter when you put it on?
Is it possible you did damage to the metal honeycomb part of the MAS unit when you put it on?
If it were misfiring I would think you would get a Check Engine Light.
Did you oil the filter when you put it on?
Is it possible you did damage to the metal honeycomb part of the MAS unit when you put it on?
If it were misfiring I would think you would get a Check Engine Light.
kdiddy8
05-09-2006, 08:55 PM
The filter was pre oiled. No the mesh part is ok. The light did come on yesterday, i have an appointment to get the check engine light looked at thur, to see what codes come up. I just didnt know if anyone had this happen before.
VR43000GT
05-09-2006, 09:04 PM
You can check the engine code yourself you know. Do a google search on what you have to do or else someone else on here I'm sure has done it before(I havent).
Igovert500
05-10-2006, 01:50 AM
Don't pay somebody $75 to pull a code from the ECU
If it's a 91-93:
http://www.stealth316.com/2-diagcodes91-93.htm
Or you could buy a cheap datalogger (great to have for a multitude of reasons)
94-95 you could get a datalogger as well
96-99 You can take to any Autozone and they will pull the code for free.
If it's a 91-93:
http://www.stealth316.com/2-diagcodes91-93.htm
Or you could buy a cheap datalogger (great to have for a multitude of reasons)
94-95 you could get a datalogger as well
96-99 You can take to any Autozone and they will pull the code for free.
kdiddy8
05-15-2006, 01:14 PM
Well i took my car to the mitsubishi dealership today to get scanned. It was a code 41. He said one of my fuel injectors on the rear bank, is stuck open. I had been smelling a lot of gas, so i hope thats why its keeps cutting off because its flooding. He said the injectors are 170 doallrs a peice through them. Anyone know where you can get them cheaper? The probelm is they could not tell which one in the back was stuck open, but he said once you took it apart you should be able to tell. While i got it down, im going to put new plugs and wires on it. Any other suggestions>??
Linebckr49
05-15-2006, 03:15 PM
He said the injectors are 170 doallrs a peice through them. Anyone know where you can get them cheaper?
$170...sounds about right...for a stealership.
find one cheaper? uhhh...ya. 3si.org--> parts for sale section (http://www.3si.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=4). you could probably pick one up for 30 bucks shipped.
best of luck to ya. hope this fixes the problem. is the dealership gonna do the labor, or are you? plugs and wires are a simple change, and the injectors are easy as well. if you have a few basic tools, you should do it. always good to have experience.
$170...sounds about right...for a stealership.
find one cheaper? uhhh...ya. 3si.org--> parts for sale section (http://www.3si.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=4). you could probably pick one up for 30 bucks shipped.
best of luck to ya. hope this fixes the problem. is the dealership gonna do the labor, or are you? plugs and wires are a simple change, and the injectors are easy as well. if you have a few basic tools, you should do it. always good to have experience.
Linebckr49
05-15-2006, 03:26 PM
just did a quick look. here (http://www.3si.org/forum/showthread.php?t=329682) is a guy selling them for $15 each.
kdiddy8
05-15-2006, 04:01 PM
I tried to resgister on that site but couldnt bc of my email address.. can u get his info so i can contact him about buying them, thanks
Linebckr49
05-15-2006, 04:39 PM
you cannot register if you have a free e-mail address (like yahoo, hotmail, gmail, etc). your ISP should provide with an e-mail account. use that e-mail address (like [email protected], [email protected], [email protected])
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