hydrogen hybrid conversion?
razr_88
05-02-2006, 10:41 AM
ok i recently built myself an electrolysis unit that run off the current from an old fog light wire harness, and i was wondering if anyone else has tried this approach?
after i put it in, i had a thought, and it was this: will the sensors in my engine be able to compensate for the added hydrogen and oxygen in the air? it should, shouldn't it?
any thoughts or opinions would be greatly appreciated
after i put it in, i had a thought, and it was this: will the sensors in my engine be able to compensate for the added hydrogen and oxygen in the air? it should, shouldn't it?
any thoughts or opinions would be greatly appreciated
beef_bourito
05-11-2006, 09:00 PM
you're not going to get increased gas mileage from electrolising water then burning it, it's actually going to decrease your gas mileage. and i don't think your sensors will notice the hydrogen.
but when you break up the water into hydrogen and oxygen, you lose some energy, then when you burn them you lose some more. if you used a hydrogen fuel cell, you would get 80-90% of the total energy possible out of the hydrogen. when you burn it you get around 30-40% (and that's being generous, in your case it would probably be less) so if you're going for increased gas mileage, this is not going to work.
but when you break up the water into hydrogen and oxygen, you lose some energy, then when you burn them you lose some more. if you used a hydrogen fuel cell, you would get 80-90% of the total energy possible out of the hydrogen. when you burn it you get around 30-40% (and that's being generous, in your case it would probably be less) so if you're going for increased gas mileage, this is not going to work.
vijayadi
05-19-2006, 04:03 PM
Do you know when India or asia will have hydrogen cars
Thanks,
Vijay
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Thanks,
Vijay
http://www.autoindia.com (http://www.autoindia.com)
ifidie2nite
05-25-2006, 10:33 AM
ok i recently built myself an electrolysis unit that run off the current from an old fog light wire harness, and i was wondering if anyone else has tried this approach?
after i put it in, i had a thought, and it was this: will the sensors in my engine be able to compensate for the added hydrogen and oxygen in the air? it should, shouldn't it?
any thoughts or opinions would be greatly appreciated
You can increase your mileage by using a hydrogen reformer on your car, I'm not quite sure though about an electrolyser. Either way, your emissions are cleaner due to the higher hydrogen content going into the combusiton chamber, which will make more water vapor, rather than just oxygen and nitrogen.
after i put it in, i had a thought, and it was this: will the sensors in my engine be able to compensate for the added hydrogen and oxygen in the air? it should, shouldn't it?
any thoughts or opinions would be greatly appreciated
You can increase your mileage by using a hydrogen reformer on your car, I'm not quite sure though about an electrolyser. Either way, your emissions are cleaner due to the higher hydrogen content going into the combusiton chamber, which will make more water vapor, rather than just oxygen and nitrogen.
razr_88
05-25-2006, 02:44 PM
ok i know that an engine will run on hydrogen, because the mythbusters prooved that it works on national television. what about using the solution of drano, water and scrap aluminum(cans, foil, etc.) to produce the h2.
what if you sealed the container to contain the pressure build up, and used a valve to aspirate the gas into the engine?
i know that the gas reaction will not stop until the aluminum is gone.
another idea is using a cable(bicycle brake, parking brake) pull the aluminum out of the solution to stop the reaction when you don't need the gas... ie.: engine off, parking u know...
what if you sealed the container to contain the pressure build up, and used a valve to aspirate the gas into the engine?
i know that the gas reaction will not stop until the aluminum is gone.
another idea is using a cable(bicycle brake, parking brake) pull the aluminum out of the solution to stop the reaction when you don't need the gas... ie.: engine off, parking u know...
302exploder
06-12-2006, 12:27 AM
the mythbusters did not prove that a car will run on hydrogen. if you kept watching, they realized that the reason the car still ran was because there was some residual fuel in the system. the next time they tried it, it sorta blew up in their faces.
drew300
06-29-2006, 01:03 PM
The info I had said that it takes about 1.4 W of electricity to electrolyse 1Ws worth of hydrogen. So we need a lot of cheap electricity form somewhere.
But i can see it reducing pollutents.
But i can see it reducing pollutents.
brokenantimatter
07-05-2006, 07:52 PM
the mythbusters did not prove that a car will run on hydrogen. if you kept watching, they realized that the reason the car still ran was because there was some residual fuel in the system. the next time they tried it, it sorta blew up in their faces.The engine cranked over using a home-made fuel cell because of residule fuel. Afterwards Jamie used a hydrogen cylinder and leaked hydrogen into the carb and it ran then caught on fire.
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