VR4 vs B20 swapped Civic hatch
Twizted_3KGT
05-01-2006, 02:40 AM
This happened a couple days ago, tried to post and it got messed up. Newayz this kid who's my friends cousin has a B20 hatchback has been wanting to race me since I had my SL. So the first day I got my VR4 he shows up and we decide to finally go at it. I take the middle (turning) lane and he takes my right. I beep three times and we take off, by the end of first I had 2 cars on him, 2nd I had almost 4, 3rd he stopped falling back and stayed the same distance back, we shut down at about 110 (short road). This was all on my very bad clutch which slips in 2nd and through most of 3rd, can't wait to put a new one in! He ended up going to the track the next day and ran a 13.5 with slicks on, so now he wants a rematch. I'll give it to him, but this time i'm puttin money down on it...even with the bad clutch.
rice(er)
05-01-2006, 03:05 AM
whats a b20? cr-v engine? you mean a k20??? and nice race!
lover707
05-01-2006, 04:12 AM
b20 yeah, crv engine.. it has alot of torque like 160 or more.. not sure.but 145 hp. but running 13.5 is really good..usually only runs mid to low 14 with that motor.. maybe he added vtec.. b20 vtec.. man, now that has alot of hp and torque..
Twizted_3KGT
05-01-2006, 11:23 AM
Yeah it's Vtec...I don't know too much about Honda motors but I was pretty surprised to see him not just drop back outta sight.
turtlecrxsi
05-01-2006, 11:45 AM
B20vtec is no slouch in a car that weighs about 2000lbs.
lover707
05-01-2006, 01:05 PM
b20vtec is supposed to be around 200 or so hp.
with all that torque too.. man is it a killer.. i havent
race one yet.. but i did lose to my friend at the track to
an lsvtec (180 hp but only 120 torque..)from the start i lost by 1\2 a car..but i still had the better time..
13.9 for me and 14.2 for him.. lol.. but if it was a street race man would i have lost.. where it is all about the reaction..
with all that torque too.. man is it a killer.. i havent
race one yet.. but i did lose to my friend at the track to
an lsvtec (180 hp but only 120 torque..)from the start i lost by 1\2 a car..but i still had the better time..
13.9 for me and 14.2 for him.. lol.. but if it was a street race man would i have lost.. where it is all about the reaction..
Gotian
05-01-2006, 05:40 PM
He ran a 13.5? Did he show you the time slip? I know that those hatchs weigh nothing and if you do them right they will haul but 13.5 is too quick for just the motor swap, IMO
Twizted_3KGT
05-01-2006, 09:50 PM
Oh it's not just a swap, he has the motor built. I have no idea what's in it, but I know it's not stock internals...they have slips, i'll be going to the track with them as soon as I get my clutch in.
TorchedStealth
05-01-2006, 11:16 PM
Nice run. Sounds like you love your new vr-4:thumbsup:
98StangGT
05-02-2006, 12:33 AM
He ran a 13.5? Did he show you the time slip? I know that those hatchs weigh nothing and if you do them right they will haul but 13.5 is too quick for just the motor swap, IMO
I wouldn't say 13.5 is out the question with a really good driver...
I wouldn't say 13.5 is out the question with a really good driver...
lover707
05-02-2006, 12:48 AM
my friend with is lsvtec ran 13.8 with a gutted interior..
so b20vtec can make low 13..
so b20vtec can make low 13..
Twizted_3KGT
05-02-2006, 01:31 AM
I wouldn't say 13.5 is out the question with a really good driver...
Yea my friend said he could only get a 13.7, but his cousin ran the 13.5.
Yea my friend said he could only get a 13.7, but his cousin ran the 13.5.
Igovert500
05-02-2006, 03:10 AM
nice kill
GET A DOWNPIPE!
GET A DOWNPIPE!
Chiquae07
05-02-2006, 08:42 AM
nice kill
GET A DOWNPIPE!
and a nice tiest pipe to finish it off. im not sure if you need 2 for the 3kgt. not really sure on how their exhaust comes off. but a nice downpipe and a test pipe will eliminate just about all backpressure from the exhuast. plus ur car sounds like a drag monster when u put it on. less lag on the turbos as well.
GET A DOWNPIPE!
and a nice tiest pipe to finish it off. im not sure if you need 2 for the 3kgt. not really sure on how their exhaust comes off. but a nice downpipe and a test pipe will eliminate just about all backpressure from the exhuast. plus ur car sounds like a drag monster when u put it on. less lag on the turbos as well.
Igovert500
05-03-2006, 03:45 AM
and a nice tiest pipe to finish it off. im not sure if you need 2 for the 3kgt. not really sure on how their exhaust comes off. but a nice downpipe and a test pipe will eliminate just about all backpressure from the exhuast. plus ur car sounds like a drag monster when u put it on. less lag on the turbos as well.
Most downpipes eliminate the cat already, so no need for a testpipe.
And we have td04-9bs...they're too small to have turbo lag :lol:
Most downpipes eliminate the cat already, so no need for a testpipe.
And we have td04-9bs...they're too small to have turbo lag :lol:
CassiesMan
05-03-2006, 03:52 AM
Good kill. I love how we are talking about a Honda motor having a ton of torque at 160 foot pounds. Modded with a VTEC head is one thing, but saying that the B20 has a ton of torque...laf.
lover707
05-03-2006, 04:12 AM
160 torque is more then enough to push a 2000 pound car.
yeah it might not seem like much to a heavy car.. but man will it beat the shit out anything over 3000 pound. with the right driver of course..
y
yeah it might not seem like much to a heavy car.. but man will it beat the shit out anything over 3000 pound. with the right driver of course..
y
Musashi3000GT
05-03-2006, 08:29 AM
yeah it might not seem like much to a heavy car.. but man will it beat the shit out anything over 3000 pound. with the right driver of course..
ummmm, I beg to differ.
Bro that is an awsome kill, specially if the moffo is running mid 13's .
cant wait to see your track numbers.
ummmm, I beg to differ.
Bro that is an awsome kill, specially if the moffo is running mid 13's .
cant wait to see your track numbers.
Igovert500
05-03-2006, 08:59 PM
160 torque is more then enough to push a 2000 pound car.
yeah it might not seem like much to a heavy car.. but man will it beat the shit out anything over 3000 pound. with the right driver of course..
y
Um, no.
vr4s, supras, ls1s, cobras, etc, etc, the list goes on.
All weigh over 3000lbs, but also all have over 2x the torque.
Not to mention, powerbands, drivetrain setups, gear ratios, etc. Blanket statements like that, just don't work.
yeah it might not seem like much to a heavy car.. but man will it beat the shit out anything over 3000 pound. with the right driver of course..
y
Um, no.
vr4s, supras, ls1s, cobras, etc, etc, the list goes on.
All weigh over 3000lbs, but also all have over 2x the torque.
Not to mention, powerbands, drivetrain setups, gear ratios, etc. Blanket statements like that, just don't work.
lover707
05-03-2006, 10:12 PM
i am talking about cars that weighs 3000 and up
with only 160 torque.. u guys are talking about cars with over 200 plus torque.. i was comparing weights.. it is like
a 150 pound guy being push by 150 guy..
and a 400 pound guy being pushed by 150 guy..
who would be faster..
with only 160 torque.. u guys are talking about cars with over 200 plus torque.. i was comparing weights.. it is like
a 150 pound guy being push by 150 guy..
and a 400 pound guy being pushed by 150 guy..
who would be faster..
youngvr4
05-03-2006, 11:24 PM
what your saying is common sense
whats is your point in saying it?
whats is your point in saying it?
VR43000GT
05-04-2006, 12:11 AM
^^Exactly, obviously two car with identical torque that have different weights aren't going to be the same in speed (assuming horsepower is within reason).
lover707
05-04-2006, 12:33 AM
"160 torque is more then enough to push a 2000 pound car.yeah it might not seem like much to a heavy car.. but man will it beat the shit out anything over 3000 pound. with the right driver of course.."
maybe the anything over 3000 pounds was phrase wrong.
because there are cars that weight that much and has about the same amount of torque.. i was just trying to point out that 170 lbs of torque is pretty strong for a light weight car.. i just saying it is alot of torque..
"a Honda motor having a ton of torque at 160 foot pounds. Modded with a VTEC head is one thing, but saying that the B20 has a ton of torque...laf."
maybe the anything over 3000 pounds was phrase wrong.
because there are cars that weight that much and has about the same amount of torque.. i was just trying to point out that 170 lbs of torque is pretty strong for a light weight car.. i just saying it is alot of torque..
"a Honda motor having a ton of torque at 160 foot pounds. Modded with a VTEC head is one thing, but saying that the B20 has a ton of torque...laf."
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