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I by no means support PETA in 98% of the things they do. Hunt and eat away at all the meat you desire. But this is straight up wrong.

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Everyone involved in doing that is a bunch of sick fuckers. End of discussion.

Shouldn't they be aiming this video at the Chinese? I mean it's not like this was done in the US.

that's also china.... they eat dogs and cats there

yeah, thats a sad and hideous video. I cant even finish watching it!
I got 4 cats and a dog, Im a big time animal lover. Shit if a building was burning and I ran in to help save lives my priorities would be children, then pets, then the adults.

I think you'd have to change your priorities... it'd be more like...

Shit if a building was burning and I ran in to help save lives my priorities would be the Goat, children, then pets, then the adults.


The Goat isn't paid for... you can always have more children, find more pets and met another wife. :lol:


Kidding... seriously.:icon16:

lol...those videos are pretty sick. no thanks to eating dogs, cats, and other pets. but what would peta do if u raised up a pig to kill it eventuially and to eat it?

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sorry mang, i cant watch it, got any other link?

this is just another example of why the US is so hated. We try to force out beliefs and practices on the rest of the world. So what if they use cats and dogs like we use cattle. In India the cow is the most sacred of animals, yet here we butcher, eat, prong, ride, and kill so many a day its unbelievable. Im sure there is a place in the world that holds chickens as sacred, pigs, ducks, lambs, all these other animals. Just because cats and dogs are domesticated doesnt make cows and pigs dumber and easier to kill and eat. Pigs are just as smart and loving as dogs, even smarter. Yet you have no problem killing them, raising them in cramped conditions, and killing them painfully so we can eat them.

Get over it, thats there society and there culture. Who are we to tell them whats right and wrong with what they want to eat and how they treat what they eat? We treat animals here just as badly, only difference is we treat different animals badly than they do.

The Goat isn't paid for... you can always have more children, find more pets and met another wife. :lol:


ROFL! :rofl:

this is just another example of why the US is so hated. We try to force out beliefs and practices on the rest of the world. So what if they use cats and dogs like we use cattle. In India the cow is the most sacred of animals, yet here we butcher, eat, prong, ride, and kill so many a day its unbelievable. Im sure there is a place in the world that holds chickens as sacred, pigs, ducks, lambs, all these other animals. Just because cats and dogs are domesticated doesnt make cows and pigs dumber and easier to kill and eat. Pigs are just as smart and loving as dogs, even smarter. Yet you have no problem killing them, raising them in cramped conditions, and killing them painfully so we can eat them.

Get over it, thats there society and there culture. Who are we to tell them whats right and wrong with what they want to eat and how they treat what they eat? We treat animals here just as badly, only difference is we treat different animals badly than they do.
I agree with you 100% there mate.

Most other countries in the world have priority no.1 as to survive. And survival is an instinct that will make u do almost anything.

The rest of the world isn't going to apologise for not having what size latte they're going to get as their number 1 priority in the morning.

And you're right, it's that kind of hypocrite attitude that makes the rest of the world hate america.

And I agree, those videos are disgusting.

this is just another example of why the US is so hated. We try to force out beliefs and practices on the rest of the world. So what if they use cats and dogs like we use cattle. In India the cow is the most sacred of animals, yet here we butcher, eat, prong, ride, and kill so many a day its unbelievable. Im sure there is a place in the world that holds chickens as sacred, pigs, ducks, lambs, all these other animals. Just because cats and dogs are domesticated doesnt make cows and pigs dumber and easier to kill and eat. Pigs are just as smart and loving as dogs, even smarter. Yet you have no problem killing them, raising them in cramped conditions, and killing them painfully so we can eat them.

Get over it, thats there society and there culture. Who are we to tell them whats right and wrong with what they want to eat and how they treat what they eat? We treat animals here just as badly, only difference is we treat different animals badly than they do.

you are wrong on a number of accounts. I dont know if you've ver raised cattle or pigs or any animal but they live the high life. If someone wanted to fatten me up and let me sit around doing nothing all day but shooting the breeze if they got to kill me when i hit the top of the hill and started heading down, Hell, i'd be happy. Plus almost every part of the cow, pig, rabbit or w/e is used on one manner or another.

THERE, on the other hand, many dogs and cats are killed simply for their fur. They are starved and dehydrated and pummled to nothingness before hand.

America is really only "Hated" by dusche countries like France and thoes wanting to kill us and everyone else in the world who doesnt beleive everything they do... ie Iraq, North Korea, Iran, etc...

you are wrong on a number of accounts. I dont know if you've ver raised cattle or pigs or any animal but they live the high life. If someone wanted to fatten me up and let me sit around doing nothing all day but shooting the breeze if they got to kill me when i hit the top of the hill and started heading down, Hell, i'd be happy. Plus almost every part of the cow, pig, rabbit or w/e is used on one manner or another.

This has got to be written in jest, so i'll take it as that.

THERE, on the other hand, many dogs and cats are killed simply for their fur. They are starved and dehydrated and pummled to nothingness before hand.

The quality of fur is directly related to how healthy and well nourished the animal is. You can see this also in humans - i.e. old people have grey wispy hair because it shows there body is in decline. And who the hell wears cat and dog fur? They are mainly eaten and only as a delicacy so it's not like millions are slaughtered every day like cows.

Also, there is another side to the equation i.e. demand. It's the rich that wear that shit anyway and there was a time when America was the biggest buyer of fur in the world. Your country helped build this trade.

America is really only "Hated" by dusche countries like France and thoes wanting to kill us and everyone else in the world who doesnt beleive everything they do... ie Iraq, North Korea, Iran, etc...

this really hits arrogance and ignorance on new levels. Not many normal people hate americans, but a lot of people are quite skeptical of american ideologies and methods. If you have to label this as hate, then you're just following the lead of your president, where those who are not with you are against you. Let me ask you, since France is not with you, then by his conclusion, shouldn't they be fighting for the "terrorists"?? Oh wait, that's your government's job to supply them with weapons and money ;-)

Ya, i seen that, they dont see cats and dogs as pets, same with horses. Even though the US is the leading exporter of horse meat.
It was all good up until the "If you wear fur" part, i hate that shit

well i mean cmon, they don't wear the fur. check google video, they show videos of an american in china eating dog there.

it's all peta's way of trying to use shock violence to stir up support for a cause that has nothing to do with the method.

now i don't really support animal cruelty, however i don't think how most animals are treated are considered cruel, (the high life attitude)
now if a bear comes at me... like stephen colbert says.. bears are on the threat down

if you believe all that those extremest groups say, you are a puppet.

Meh, its their culture, they can do what they want. I personally don't consider a meal a meal unless it involves one portion of something that used to breath. Prefrably mooed too.

Thats is definately something intense...really pulls on your heart strings...and I didn't know dog and cat fur was in such demand...I thought it was like minks n stuff...mabe I just don't know the culture

but you do have to take that with a grain of salt, its showing a very extreme case of animal cruelty...

oh and does this mean I have to give up my Nike Shox? I mean their sooooo comfortable

and you can jump so much higher!!1

I have had all three of my dunks with them on. no joke.

ok they might not make u jump higher but still, all 3 dunks. With that shoe. Case closed

its not as bad as the people in china who ate human baby fetuses

^now i don't remember that..

but how did we get from cats and dogs to human pre babies?

You call this the luxury life?
http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/video.asp?video=hillside&Player=wm&speed=_med

http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/video.asp?video=bea_psa_60&Player=wm&speed=_med

http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/video.asp?video=cattle&Player=wm&speed=_med
and yes that farmer just cut off that bulls balls with no anastetic.

so what were you saying now? You need to learn alot before you go tooting your horn on issues you have no idea about.

*cringe* that looked kinda painful....kinfa really painful...i cant watch the 3rd one again...

and Jayson has there ever been an issue that you haven't taken an incredibly passionate stand? no insult intended but man your intense

this really hits arrogance and ignorance on new levels. Not many normal people hate americans, but a lot of people are quite skeptical of american ideologies and methods. If you have to label this as hate, then you're just following the lead of your president, where those who are not with you are against you. Let me ask you, since France is not with you, then by his conclusion, shouldn't they be fighting for the "terrorists"?? Oh wait, that's your government's job to supply them with weapons and money ;-)

on the contrary. the french in general think americans as a whole are arogant and ignorant. Ive seen french in america mocking the english language and yet if an american speaks french to them they blow it off like "how could americans even try to repoduce it?" that is my experence with the french on several occasions.

as for the cattle. there are restictions on alot of thoes things, they choose to not follow them. the cattle ive been around are raised very nicely. when they are branded most i know of dont even use heat anymore, most freaze the skin either with wart removal propane cans or with duster cans turned upside down, less painful and quicker recovery.

on the contrary. the french in general think americans as a whole are arogant and ignorant. Ive seen french in america mocking the english language and yet if an american speaks french to them they blow it off like "how could americans even try to repoduce it?" that is my experence with the french on several occasions.

as for the cattle. there are restictions on alot of thoes things, they choose to not follow them. the cattle ive been around are raised very nicely. when they are branded most i know of dont even use heat anymore, most freaze the skin either with wart removal propane cans or with duster cans turned upside down, less painful and quicker recovery.

Man, most of the world stereotypes americans as arrogant and ignorant. They also stereotype aussies as being lazy. Don't take it to heart my friend!

And since when was "english" all about america? If you notice, more than america speaks english, so someone making fun of the english language is not necessarily making fun of americans.

And the french are like that. When you go to france they hate it when you butcher their language - they think ur stupid and ignorant. The french are a bunch of arrogant fucks, they hate everyone (stereotyping of course :grinno:) - so again, dont take it to heart. Ask any british person what they think of the french and u'll see! And ask any french person, they don't hate americans, they hate everyone!:p

I hate the Dutch.

And carnies

LMAO at the last 2 posts

first off ide like to say this is my first post soo i hope i dont skrew it up sorry if i do. now ide also like to say i have 50,000 chickens yes 50,000 trust me these stupid birds live life in the high life up until about 45 days when they are painlessly killed for human consumption. this is how i know that farming (atleast in U.S.) is humain.

People gotta understand, its the american way to get something done the fastest and cheapest, no matter what anything eles happens. Dont get me wrong here, im not a tree hugging liberal, nor am i a republican. I hunt/fish every year, and i try and do whats right.
If KFC can spray that shit on birds, and after 6 weeks they reach there max weight, why not? Its better than waiting 6 months.
All this stuff has to be handled delicately, not to harsh, not to pampered, but in between. Its just the way it is

People gotta understand, its the american way to get something done the fastest and cheapest, no matter what anything eles happens. Dont get me wrong here, im not a tree hugging liberal, nor am i a republican. I hunt/fish every year, and i try and do whats right.
If KFC can spray that shit on birds, and after 6 weeks they reach there max weight, why not? Its better than waiting 6 months.
All this stuff has to be handled delicately, not to harsh, not to pampered, but in between. Its just the way it is

Its effeciency vs humanity... Its more effecient to use child labour on menial tasks because you don't have to pay them as much...its effecient to spray shit on birds and getting them to gain weight faster...but its more humane to use adult labour (letting kids be kids) and paying them a reasonable wage, and its more humane to ffed the chickens grain feed and not let fatten them up and cage them tightly together

Theres always a trede off between the two...the question is which is the best trade off

the french are a bunch of socialists with an incredibly corrupt government. hmm wonder why they opposed iraq so much... probably because they were getting billions from the oil for food deal. nough said.

oh yeah, peta is rediculous. they get mad if you step on a bug by accident. guess what, people have been cutting the balls off of bulls for centuries, thats how you get steers. sometimes its necessary if you want to have the right kind of farm animal. usually though im pretty sure they tie a rubber band around them and cutt of the circulation, and soon they just fall off. would i like it? no, but im not a bull. also with the chickens, americans eat so much chicken its insane, myself included. the suppliers need to keep up with the market.

as far as killing cats and dogs, that really irks me. but idk what we can do about it.... i think those two animals should be held higher than that but obviously those other cultures dont care.

the french are a bunch of socialists with an incredibly corrupt government. hmm wonder why they opposed iraq so much... probably because they were getting billions from the oil for food deal. nough said.


What's wrong with socialism? God forbid a society where people look after each other :eek:

And of course govts always have more than one motive for taking a particular action. But if you want to talk about profiting from iraq, look no further than the bush administration!

You want to back up the "getting billions"? Every developed country in the world participated in the oil for food deal, USA included. You wanna know who set it up? Clinton administration.

It was an ingenious way to continue to "buy" oil from iraq even with the UN sanction. A very clever way to bypass them.

I don't even know why you brought up iraq whilst trying to make the french look bad. Whenever people talk about oil and the middle east, it's america that comes to mind first, not france!

I don't even know why you brought up iraq whilst trying to make the french look bad. Whenever people talk about oil and the middle east, it's america that comes to mind first, not france!

just giving an example of how they are corrupt... why did you have to bring up the US government? that was not in the conversation at all.

i dont know why oil or government was brought up at all :uhoh:

the french are a bunch of socialists with an incredibly corrupt government. hmm wonder why they opposed iraq so much... probably because they were getting billions from the oil for food deal. nough said.
I dont like french people either

They dont shave. And i mean there

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