fuel problem
viper-blue
04-29-2006, 06:03 PM
Hey Guys!
My car just broke down in a drive-thru. I recently had the dash and interior gutted to repaint my panels....while i was doing that I spread some undercoating in a few holes including the hole where the fuel lines go throught the floor into the gas tank. I know I'm having a fuel problem and I was wondering if anyone knows if tar is bad for the rubber fuel lines or not. I can't work on it til tomorrow and I want to get some ideas to start with..I know the relays can be a problem to....can anyone tell me where to look and possibly a way to check the relays without putting a new one in first..the car ran fine then just quit all of a sudden
Thanx fella's :)
My car just broke down in a drive-thru. I recently had the dash and interior gutted to repaint my panels....while i was doing that I spread some undercoating in a few holes including the hole where the fuel lines go throught the floor into the gas tank. I know I'm having a fuel problem and I was wondering if anyone knows if tar is bad for the rubber fuel lines or not. I can't work on it til tomorrow and I want to get some ideas to start with..I know the relays can be a problem to....can anyone tell me where to look and possibly a way to check the relays without putting a new one in first..the car ran fine then just quit all of a sudden
Thanx fella's :)
bambam89lx
04-29-2006, 09:06 PM
Hey Guys!
My car just broke down in a drive-thru. I recently had the dash and interior gutted to repaint my panels....while i was doing that I spread some undercoating in a few holes including the hole where the fuel lines go throught the floor into the gas tank. I know I'm having a fuel problem and I was wondering if anyone knows if tar is bad for the rubber fuel lines or not. I can't work on it til tomorrow and I want to get some ideas to start with..I know the relays can be a problem to....can anyone tell me where to look and possibly a way to check the relays without putting a new one in first..the car ran fine then just quit all of a sudden
Thanx fella's :)
No check engine lights? Check for spark first. If there's no spark, check your grounds and coil. Main relays are a common problem on these cars as well.
My car just broke down in a drive-thru. I recently had the dash and interior gutted to repaint my panels....while i was doing that I spread some undercoating in a few holes including the hole where the fuel lines go throught the floor into the gas tank. I know I'm having a fuel problem and I was wondering if anyone knows if tar is bad for the rubber fuel lines or not. I can't work on it til tomorrow and I want to get some ideas to start with..I know the relays can be a problem to....can anyone tell me where to look and possibly a way to check the relays without putting a new one in first..the car ran fine then just quit all of a sudden
Thanx fella's :)
No check engine lights? Check for spark first. If there's no spark, check your grounds and coil. Main relays are a common problem on these cars as well.
kris
04-30-2006, 12:40 AM
The tar will not damage the exterior of your fuel lines.
viper-blue
04-30-2006, 07:26 AM
so I did some troubleshooting on my gal this morning (man it hurts seeing her not run :frown: )
I first checked the main relay for the three clicks...
Then made sure the fuel pump was coming on, and checked the pressure at the filter...
Had my bro turn the key while I looked thru the fill hole in the valve cover to make sure the cam was turning....checked ecu - no codes being thrown
Everything checks out at this point, but I have no spark....so I pulled the cap off and there was mild carbon tracking on the terminals...the hole that the initial spark comes out of from the coil was really carbon tracked and basically plugged with carbon the plastic on the end of this hole I mentioned had started to melt, and the terminal on the cap that receives the spark from the module showed signs of minor damage...both carbon tracking and some slight melting around the plastic...I cleaned everything up and from just looking at it the damage doesn't seem bad enough to cause mechanical failure....and there is no signs of melting on the body of the module
As I said the hole where the spark comes outta the module was completely plugged til I cleaned it and there is still no spark....
Any ideas for a next step? anyone have a similar problem with these engines? Mines an 89' si with a rebuilt stock 1.6 and chipped ecu....anyhoo the wreckers isn't open til tomorrow so would appreciate any ideas before I go down..am on a tight budget, and at this point the solution won't be simple..have checked all fuses to..I hate pulling the multi-meter out cause the readings are always below OEM standards yet most parts work just fine way below OEM (guess I'm saying I'm not too good with darned thing)
Thanx guys..sorry so long...am a stickler for detail :banghead:
PS...I've been a domestic man til the crx lured me to the dark side, lol....isn't inside the distributer an odd place for a module?...not the greatest place for heat to dissipate from I would think
I first checked the main relay for the three clicks...
Then made sure the fuel pump was coming on, and checked the pressure at the filter...
Had my bro turn the key while I looked thru the fill hole in the valve cover to make sure the cam was turning....checked ecu - no codes being thrown
Everything checks out at this point, but I have no spark....so I pulled the cap off and there was mild carbon tracking on the terminals...the hole that the initial spark comes out of from the coil was really carbon tracked and basically plugged with carbon the plastic on the end of this hole I mentioned had started to melt, and the terminal on the cap that receives the spark from the module showed signs of minor damage...both carbon tracking and some slight melting around the plastic...I cleaned everything up and from just looking at it the damage doesn't seem bad enough to cause mechanical failure....and there is no signs of melting on the body of the module
As I said the hole where the spark comes outta the module was completely plugged til I cleaned it and there is still no spark....
Any ideas for a next step? anyone have a similar problem with these engines? Mines an 89' si with a rebuilt stock 1.6 and chipped ecu....anyhoo the wreckers isn't open til tomorrow so would appreciate any ideas before I go down..am on a tight budget, and at this point the solution won't be simple..have checked all fuses to..I hate pulling the multi-meter out cause the readings are always below OEM standards yet most parts work just fine way below OEM (guess I'm saying I'm not too good with darned thing)
Thanx guys..sorry so long...am a stickler for detail :banghead:
PS...I've been a domestic man til the crx lured me to the dark side, lol....isn't inside the distributer an odd place for a module?...not the greatest place for heat to dissipate from I would think
FrodoGT
04-30-2006, 07:26 PM
I would hazard a guess and say that you cap is shorting out and melting the damned thing..
viper-blue
04-30-2006, 07:40 PM
thanx for the reply..I have been browsing and most guys think that cheap after market caps and rotors don't handle the full current of the ignition system for very long..I have a moto-master which is a popular quality item here in Canada...does anyone think a new cap and rotor may solve the problem? (the car has 30,000 since its last cap, rotor, and spark plug change (I used bosch platinum 2) if not and the ignitor or module is fried, does anyone know what years of civic/crx will fit into my 89 si? I want to try used parts just to identify the problem, then go new if the problem is solved. My car doesn't fire at all now.:frown:
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