OMFG OMFG This is too much!!

...

WOW! The Mexicans are starting to fuck us over the exact same way!

Really though I've heard Europe is really going down the shitter. It's not Europe anymore but just a sub-division of the Middle East now.

Goodbye...

Hot Swedish women... :crying:
Hot French women that actually shave... :crying:
Hot German women without a 5 o'clock shadow... :crying:
Hot...ummm...sexually open European women... :crying:
Amsterdam... :crying:

holy shit thats insane!!!

they want the same in england. i think my dad wants to move to america, he know's it'll never happen there.

Amazing.....

They need to realize that the saying is,

"When in Rome, do as the Romans do"

NOT

"When in Rome, make unreal demands and blow the place up when they don't give it to you".



:disappoin:disappoin:disappoin

lol i know, i live in Dearborn Michiganm the largest settlement of arabics outside there own country. We deal with that shit all the time, to bad in America they cant do shit because no one here likes them. WHen they whine and cry people just ignore them. Although the ones over here prolly are more americanized than middleeastern, not sure how it is over there.

Well, any wacko group can demand what they want, really -- hopefully that doesn't mean that the body they're making the demands of will grant it to them. We've got plenty of wacko interest groups in the U.S. claiming to represent their chosen cause -- homosexual, homophobic, religious, political, cultural, etc., and these people are making all kinds of demands all the time -- that doesn't mean they're going to get them. So what can be said about just another group like this one? Congratulations on joining the list of groups that no normal person gives a rat's ass about. As long as Sweden doesn't actually give into these demands, the world will go on, this Muslim interest group will be ignored, and no one will care. If Sweden DOES give into something like this, then shame on them (just like schools that ban the pledge and introduce books about human sexual issues -- gay and straight -- to young children, towns that rename established holidays in order to be PC, watchdog groups that bitch about videogame violence, bible-thumpers that would punish other people because they live a life contrary to "God's" teachings, etc.)

There's a time to stand up for what you feel is right, and a time to shut up when it's pretty clear that the agenda is unreasonable.

Well, any wacko group can demand what they want, really -- hopefully that doesn't mean that the body they're making the demands of will grant it to them. We've got plenty of wacko interest groups in the U.S. claiming to represent their chosen cause -- homosexual, homophobic, religious, political, cultural, etc., and these people are making all kinds of demands all the time -- that doesn't mean they're going to get them. So what can be said about just another group like this one? Congratulations on joining the list of groups that no normal person gives a rat's ass about. As long as Sweden doesn't actually give into these demands, the world will go on, this Muslim interest group will be ignored, and no one will care. If Sweden DOES give into something like this, then shame on them (just like schools that ban the pledge and introduce books about human sexual issues -- gay and straight -- to young children, towns that rename established holidays in order to be PC, watchdog groups that bitch about videogame violence, bible-thumpers that would punish other people because they live a life contrary to "God's" teachings, etc.)

There's a time to stand up for what you feel is right, and a time to shut up when it's pretty clear that the agenda is unreasonable.

Thing is, those are simple minorities with no power. Swedish Muslims (not all) is .. well violent leeches straight from Iran, with no capability to adapt whatsoever, with Anti Racists on their side. Giving them a straight No can cause serious riots and will make them hate us even more. They're like.. little kids, with guns.. See something they want, they'll take it.. Dont want to pay taxes, bomb threaten the IRS.


Oh and btw, Hamas are moving to Sweden now, and it's prejudicing not letting them in.

F**k that. Why should we change our laws because they don't fit someone elses ideal? Sweden should tell them to screw off or live by the same laws as everyone else.

F**k that. Why should we change our laws because they don't fit someone elses ideal? Sweden should tell them to screw off or live by the same laws as everyone else.

Right; move to a country where the laws suit you, don't expect to change an entire country when you move there.

lol we fired a muslim the other day when he started making demands like that he was a real asshole thought he was above everyone and didnt have to work.

Umm

Halal butchers should be allowed?

Are halal butchers illegal or something? Fucks sake, just start a butcher shop specialising in Halal meats, there shouldn't be any obstacles to doing that.

Now you see how it is here in the good old US of A with the illegal mexicans. They now want a version of the Star Spangled Banner written in spanish. What kind of SHIT is that??? They want the government to bend over backwards to accomodate them because they're too damn lazy to do what other LEGAL immigrants do, and they're not even supposed to fucking be here!

Now you see how it is here in the good old US of A with the illegal mexicans. They now want a version of the Star Spangled Banner written in spanish. What kind of SHIT is that??? They want the government to bend over backwards to accomodate them because they're too damn lazy to do what other LEGAL immigrants do, and they're not even supposed to fucking be here!
they already did and it was done by LEGAL immigrants. im latino and have been affected by illegals i lost my job to a illegal, lucky for us we managed to ruin their bussiness by stealing all his customers with lower prices.

Muslims want own laws in Sweden

The demands stated by the Swedish Muslim Association;

- Divorces among muslims have to be approved by an Imam.
- Right to build Mosques without any obstacle.
- Interest free loans.
- Separate education for muslim children by Imams.
- Separate swimming exercises for boys and girls.
- 2 days paid work time off for muslim holidays.
- 2 hours time off for fridays prayers.
- Halal butchers to be allowed.
- Swedish Imam training/education.


OMFG, we let them in our country, pay them $1200, let them live on social contributions, stand their racism and hate against our country, skin color and religion. AND NOW THEY WANT TO FUCKING TAKE CONTROL OF OUR LAWS??



They're not taking control of your laws. They want muslim rights for there own. From what it seems, they want some certain percentage of the Shari'a Law be passed to there benefits. It has nothing to do with you or non muslims. You shouldn't be "effected" by this at all. So I dont understand why you whining/complaining about this? If Christians/Jews get work days off for holidays and get paid holiday vacations..why can't we? You have to see our point of view also before you start criticising.


According to that list, they can do that without passing the law all except holiday,friday prayers, interest free. I only have a problem with the Friday prayers. Most jobs here in America would be able to let you go on your lunch break to go for the prayers. MOST not all. That shouldn't be too much of a problem. I haven't experianced that yet.




OMG they are here because their laws doesn't fucking work out at home.



Nooo. We're here (US) because of better oppurtunities. Im sure its the same in Sweden. You're almost right about the law. Most Islamic countries hardly run the Shari'a Law. Most of Islamic Gov't officials are hypocrites, escpecially Saudi and Jordan. Iran is probably the most closest to 100% Shari'a Law. Some escape from oppressive regimes.



AND HOW THE HELL would it work out with interest free loans? Yea, sure, go ahead open your own bank try to make that work.




We have Islamic banks. Charging interests on someone is forbidden in Islam.

And that crap about divorces? The women wont be able to have their divorce if the husband's a total asshole, beating her up and what else?




What are you tryin to imply here? That women in Islam aren't allowed to divorce? If thats what you're saying, then you are wrong.





Oh and what obstacles for building your mosques are you expecting anyway? Like building permissions? Actually owning the land you'll be using? I sure dont want to wake up having a Mosque on my backyard.



But its ok to have Church in every corner right? Its ok to have Church bells ringing early in the morning right? It seems like you have some hatred towards muslims.



I showed this to my friend Abdi who's a muslim, and he was like 'WTF is this shit? Im seriously ashamed for my religion sometimes.'




It seems to me that he lacks knowledge of his own religion. No one would should be ashamed of anything when they have the same belief especially. Am I ashamed because the muslim extremists are giving us a bad name? NO! I know they're wrong. IF your friend feels ashamed is because you probably make him feel that way. Its the ppl around us that tries to makes us think otherwise. The ignorant ppl always try to make us feel ashamed of what we stand for and believe.

Umm

Halal butchers should be allowed?

Are halal butchers illegal or something? Fucks sake, just start a butcher shop specialising in Halal meats, there shouldn't be any obstacles to doing that.

You know, you're actually right. WE have lots of Halal/Kosher Butchers here. Unless if i'm mistakin, they probably want fast foods to be halal/kosher meat?? Some KFC have Halal meat but not all of them.

lol i know, i live in Dearborn Michiganm the largest settlement of arabics outside there own country.



The correct term is arabs. Not all muslims in Dearborn are arabs. My Chaldean side of the family that live in Michigan are still Catholics also. Yes Michigan is the largest ARAB community but that doesn't mean all are muslims.


to bad in America they cant do shit because no one here likes them.




Speak for yourself.

I showed this to my friend Abdi who's a muslim, and he was like 'WTF is this shit? Im seriously ashamed for my religion sometimes.'


Religion is a tool. You can use it the way you want to. A knife can be used to cut steak, or slit your throat...perhaps what your friend really meant was, "Im seriously ashamed of Muslims sometimes.' Because that would make two of us...Islam has been defiled to new lows by the stupidity and self-righteous greed of Man. If you were ever to read their holy text, the Koran (Quran), you would realize that nothing in the Muslim world today even remotely adheres to the teachings of the ancient text.

you would realize that nothing in the Muslim world today even remotely adheres to the teachings of the ancient text.


No you are wrong. Theres alot of them out there that dedicate there whole lives to Islam.

No you are wrong. Theres alot of them out there that dedicate there whole lives to Islam.

:rolleyes:

Sigh. Of course, must you nitpick at generalizations that are meant to be all-encompassing save not serving justice to a precious few?

If your idea of Islam is limited to praying 5 times a day and fasting, then perhaps you need to go over the core fundamentals of this religion, which revolve around "haquq-ul-ebad", or the "rights of Man", where strict emphasis is placed on how people must be good to fellow man. Islam also says the there is no compulsion in religion... just a few bits here and there that no one seems to remember, most unfortunately.

Let me rephrase then, for your sake. A great majority of the followers of Islam thrust in the limelight today have twisted their religion to oblivion. That includes the Royal Saudi family who have bastardized the name of religion through hypocrisy and plunder of their country in Isams holiest cities, and Al-Qaeda, who murder under the shade of Islam. These are the top two, followed by the Taliban, the Asshollas, the Janjaweed militas of Sudan (though their campaign revolves around ethnic cleansing not exactly under the banner of religion), and others. I am not proud of what I see of Muslims today at all. As the crusades soiled the sanctity of the teachings of Jesus hundreds of years ago, so does Islam fall victim to the greed of Man in the second millenium...disgusting. It is to the point of saturation where people associate beards, turbans, and arabic/farsi calligraphy to suicide bombers, oppressed women and evil.

Let's face it buddy. The Saudi royals are the richest people in the world. And yet, all this talk on "helping our Palestinian brothers" is pure crud. Money talks, and if they really wanted to "help their brothers", they'd be sending copious amounts of aid to Africa and Asia. But they'd rather order a custom gold plated Mercedes-Benz S600, and have the bathroom taps lined with platinum; a better cause than helping their own get back on their feet? I am sure...

That includes the Royal Saudi family who have bastardized the name of religion through hypocrisy and plunder of their country in Isams holiest cities, and Al-Qaeda, who murder under the shade of Islam. These are the top two, followed by the Taliban, the Asshollas, the Janjaweed militas of Sudan (though their campaign revolves around ethnic cleansing not exactly under the banner of religion), and others. I am not proud of what I see of Muslims today at all. As the crusades soiled the sanctity of the teachings of Jesus hundreds of years ago, so does Islam fall victim to the greed of Man in the second millenium...disgusting.

Let's face it buddy. The Saudi royals are the richest people in the world. And yet, all this talk on "helping our Palestinian brothers" is pure crud. Money talks, and if they really wanted to "help their brothers", they'd be sending copious amounts of aid to Africa and Asia. But they'd rather order a custom gold plated Mercedes-Benz S600, and have the bathroom taps lined with platinum; a better cause than helping their own get back on their feet? I am sure...




Ok I agree with you to certain extent.Thats what we call hypocrites. I've made a couple of statements against the Islamic govt's before and if you read then Im sure you'd agree with me also. Correct me if i'm wrong for "my sake" but you're making it seem like the majority of the muslims are hypocrites. Thats why I didn't agree with you.

WOW... Just WOW

What are you tryin to imply here? That women in Islam aren't allowed to divorce? If thats what you're saying, then you are wrong.




But its ok to have Church in every corner right? Its ok to have Church bells ringing early in the morning right? It seems like you have some hatred towards muslims.




It seems to me that he lacks knowledge of his own religion. No one would should be ashamed of anything when they have the same belief especially. Am I ashamed because the muslim extremists are giving us a bad name? NO! I know they're wrong. IF your friend feels ashamed is because you probably make him feel that way. Its the ppl around us that tries to makes us think otherwise. The ignorant ppl always try to make us feel ashamed of what we stand for and believe.

Omg you managed to twist and turn every sentence I wrote to some racist thought that came up in my mind in 5seconds.

1. I live among muslims, they aren't allways allowed having divorce no. If you're a muslim, then you probably know that muslims differs alot.

2. When and where did I write anything about i dont want a Mosque around? I said, i dont want it on my back yard. You honeslty think they arren't allowed building it because of muslim reasons? They want to build them without building permissions and actually owning the land, or something like that.

Oh and where the fuck did I ever write anything representing christianity you ignorant bastard? I dont like bells in the morning either.

3. He lackes knowledge of his own religion? ok. Have you read the Koran? Do yo visit Mosques and/or pray? Have you ever lived in a musilm country? How many arabic languages do you speak?.

He's gone to a Koran school since he was 5 years old. Have you?

I have probably read more of the Koran then you too.

Dont call people ignorant when you reply to my friend Abdi who's a muslim with It seems like you have some hatred towards muslims.

Umm

Halal butchers should be allowed?

Are halal butchers illegal or something? Fucks sake, just start a butcher shop specialising in Halal meats, there shouldn't be any obstacles to doing that.

Halal butchering is considered animal torturing by the EU and is illegal by EU laws.

1. I live among muslims, they aren't allways allowed having divorce no. If you're a muslim, then you probably know that muslims differs alot.



Who told you that? They're allowed to divorce by saying it with there mouths. It depends on there situation. You said they're not allowed to divorce even if the husband beats there wives or they're total assholes. Did I assumed wrong here?




3. He lackes knowledge of his own religion? ok. Have you read the Koran? Do yo visit Mosques and/or pray? Have you ever lived in a musilm country? How many arabic languages do you speak?.






Yes. How many arabic languages do I speak? Sure theres lots of dialects but I understand most of it. All Iraqis understand all different dialects. To be more specific I speak fuh-sa arabic.

Theres quite a few muslims that lack knowledge of there own religion. Just yesterday I traveled with my brothers teacher to go teach some teenagers/young adults about Islam. They're born muslims by name but they dont practice. So I dont know what you're tryin to prove here?




He's gone to a Koran school since he was 5 years old. Have you?

I have probably read more of the Koran then you too.





Ok grow up. Dont have an alcer. I didn't call you ignorant directly.I was speaking in general.

You're freaking out because they want laws that benefits them. I dont always agree with that. If they live in a non muslim country,we have to respect there laws as long as we're not being oppressed because of our beliefs.

If I said anything offensive, then I apologize.

i agree, i don't think the laws should be imposed on everyone, especially not in a non-muslim country. if the muslims want to live under those laws then by all means do so, but there's no reason the non-muslin community shoudl have to abide by those rules.

Halal butchering is considered animal torturing by the EU and is illegal by EU laws.

Im just curious. How do they see that its "torturing?" You got any information on that. I find this very odd.

Im just curious. How do they see that its "torturing?" You got any information on that. I find this very odd.

Why would it be illegall if not considered torturing?
Why would they demand halal buthering to be allowed if it wasn't illegal?

I guess hanging the cows upside down in their feet, slitting their throats might be considered torturing by many people.

Why would it be illegall if not considered torturing?
Why would they demand halal buthering to be allowed if it wasn't illegal?



I dont know. You tell me. Thats why I asked you. Torturing animals are forbidden in Islam. You look at fast food restuarants and see how they slaughter the animals.


2. The animal should be properly slaughtered and should not be dipped in boiling water or killed by electric shocks. Any method other than slaughter adopted to kill the animal will not be lawful. Stunning by bolt shot or electric shock before slaughter is not valid and should be avoided, as it is tantamount to torturing an animal, which is inhumane and unlawful in Islam. The tendency of the Shari’ah is to make the slaughter more humane by reducing the suffering of the animal. The Holy Prophet (SAW) is reported to have said that if you must slaughter, slaughter in the best possible manner. Sharpen your knife every time before you slaughter, but not in front of the animal to be slaughtered. Do not slaughter an animal in the presence of other animals, and feed and rest the animal before slaughter. The idea is to stop cruelty to animals – a practice still prevalent in the West in various forms and guises despite claims to the contrary, as we shall see later.

http://www.eat-halal.com/articles/0100.shtml

Halal butchering is considered animal torturing by the EU and is illegal by EU laws.
:rolleyes: That is strange. Not to argue with the EU with any religious ferver at all, but I have a Korean Vegan friend who's been feeding me videos of slaughter houses and chicken houses here in the USA. Oh my gosh...I don't know if anything can be more torturous to endure, or disgruntling to watch. Plus, there are certain delicacies in Europe and Japan, where they make baby cows stand in one position for half their life, so that their meat becomes super tender...can't think of the name right now, but it is an expensive and popular delicacy. Bah, I don't care. I can't stay away from meat. Now where's that six dollar burger from Carl's Jr?? Grraarrr!

You're thinking of veal.

:rolleyes: That is strange. Not to argue with the EU with any religious ferver at all, but I have a Korean Vegan friend who's been feeding me videos of slaughter houses and chicken houses here in the USA. Oh my gosh...I don't know if anything can be more torturous to endure, or disgruntling to watch. Plus, there are certain delicacies in Europe and Japan, where they make baby cows stand in one position for half their life, so that their meat becomes super tender...can't think of the name right now, but it is an expensive and popular delicacy. Bah, I don't care. I can't stay away from meat. Now where's that six dollar burger from Carl's Jr?? Grraarrr!

you were thinking of kobe beef, it's japanese. the cows are fed beer and are massaged regularly to make the beef tender.

You're thinking of veal.

veal's jsut young beef, it's the cow equivalent of lamb. (mutton being the beef equivalent)

go home, go home , go home ,,and go home

go home, go home , go home ,,and go home

huh? are you saying the immigrants should return to their native countries?

This is a very interesting thread, let's keep it civil.

Nothing wrong with immigrants, as long as they're legal. I'm a legal immigrant to New Zealand, and we get pissed off when we see illegals come in, after all the bullshit we had to go through (background checks, blood tests for AIDS and TB etc) and these other people just (figuratively) jump the fence and expect everything to be provided for them.

scannr89, please elaborate.

mellowboy, where do you live?


Oh, and for some of the others: The easiest way to piss off an Iranian is to call him or her an Arab.

mellowboy, where do you live?




In Arizona. USA.





Oh, and for some of the others: The easiest way to piss off an Iranian is to call him or her an Arab.

LoL that sometime is true. I think this only applies to the younger (my generation) persians. The old folks can careless. I can be wrong. Also if you call an assyrian an arab...they'll go nuts.

Call a Kurd a turk, or the opposite. Thrust me, that is dangerous. Or simply put the two of them in the same room.

go home, go home , go home ,,and go home

That's really immature, and if it was meant in a sarcastic or joke-ish way, then no score.

They can stay if they can adapt, i've got several muslim friends who i'd hate getting sent away.

if you slap a muslim on the back of the neck you'll set them off, it's very offensive to them.

if you slap a muslim on the back of the neck you'll set them off, it's very offensive to them.

Never heard of that. Any slap in the face is really disrepectful eitherway.

my friend's an arabic muslim, he told me it's very disrespectful. if you do it 99% if the time it'll result in a fight.

Last year, 60 guys from Qatar came to my job for about 2 months to train to be a pararescue team.

One time, one of the girls I work with walked up behind their Colonel and touched him on the back to get his attention. He jumped so high. He knew that we didn't really know, so he was calm enough to explain that we weren't supposed to touch him.

Then they tried to buy me.

Last year, 60 guys from Qatar came to my job for about 2 months to train to be a pararescue team.

One time, one of the girls I work with walked up behind their Colonel and touched him on the back to get his attention. He jumped so high. He knew that we didn't really know, so he was calm enough to explain that we weren't supposed to touch him.

Then they tried to buy me.

Buy you?

how much? i got $997 right here...

Yes. They tried to give the owner of Skydive DeLand like, 100 grand to take me home with them.

We think it was because of my blonde hair.





I mean, my uh...personality...yeah.

100k? holy shit....that's a lot for a blonde.....

And I thought I was priceless...$997. Pfffttt....

the mastercard ads lie.

And I thought I was priceless...$997. Pfffttt....

well, not after this:

i was going to tell you that you should go early tonight....

and then

and not wake up

well, not after this:



and then




You know what I meant! That sounds terrible....

Oh, and for some of the others: The easiest way to piss off an Iranian is to call him or her an Arab.

You got that right :rofl:

my friend's an arabic muslim, he told me it's very disrespectful. if you do it 99% if the time it'll result in a fight.

I doubt it. If someone was to joke around then they dont take it seriously. I know I dont and my friends dont.