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If you died tonight, where would you go?


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Fiero Outlaw
04-25-2006, 08:54 PM
If you were to die tonight, where would you go?

quteasabutton
04-25-2006, 08:56 PM
i can tell by ur sig ur a jesusfreak..so then technically i have 2 options of where to go. buuut i think i'd rather go visit driftinggrifter. just cuz.

Rally Sport
04-25-2006, 09:09 PM
I'd be driving my Camaro the whole day.. then drink a 12 pack of Mountain dew Livewire and then eat an Ultimate Cheeseburger while im driving as I die..

sivic02
04-25-2006, 09:17 PM
Im gonna go out on a limb and say the morgue

Nicole8188
04-25-2006, 09:22 PM
I think he meant heaven or hell, but since we're all saying where we'd literally go, I'd steal my mom's credit card and buy a plane ticket to London.

Mmm, I'm so in love with all those sexy Brits. Or one.

beef_bourito
04-25-2006, 09:35 PM
i think i'd just spend time with my family, say one last goodbye.

quteasabutton
04-25-2006, 09:41 PM
I think he meant heaven or hell, but since we're all saying where we'd literally go, I'd steal my mom's credit card and buy a plane ticket to London.

Mmm, I'm so in love with all those sexy Brits. Or one.
for sure! they have the sexiest accents. followed by those australian boys mm mm!

Rally Sport
04-25-2006, 09:44 PM
I know the thread starter meant where.. but I would go anywhere as long as im driving..

sv650s
04-25-2006, 09:46 PM
'd rob a bank, then have a party in brazil with blackjack and hookers! you know what.......forget the bank

mike1224
04-25-2006, 09:47 PM
im not a huge believer in after death experiences, other than ending up burried or cremated. But i've been told that i'm probably going to hell, and by some of the things i've done, im sure it'll be true.

quteasabutton
04-25-2006, 09:55 PM
i'd rob a bank, then have a party in brazil with blackjack and hookers! you know what.......forget the bank
no you wouldn't. tonight proved ur the pussiest black guy ever. can't even slap someone. no way you would ever have the balls to rob a bank :thefinger

Rally Sport
04-25-2006, 09:56 PM
no you wouldn't. tonight proved ur the pussiest black guy ever. can't even slap someone. no way you would ever have the balls to rob a bank :thefinger

Damn, mo you just got :owned:!

Oz
04-25-2006, 10:57 PM
I don't think I'd go anywhere. Apparantly it's quite difficult to move once you're dead.

A pretty stupid question when you think about it.

BleedDodge
04-25-2006, 11:24 PM
I would likely end up in the ground, if they found my body.

Ralliart 3000gt
04-25-2006, 11:29 PM
Traped some place in the portal to the Paradise of oblivion, but in some cultures they regard this as hell not paradise. Talking about Hell Do you guy's have a Hell Pizza in the states???? Man they are good. I meen if they make you stuff like that in Hell then that's where I'm going. I meen honestly thats all I've lived off for the past 6mnth I've eaten every type of Pizza that Domino's, Pizza hutt, Hell's Pizza, this other italian Pizza place the Mcain Pizza's and all the no frill cardboard Pizza's too. No bull.

So where are you going???

driftinggrifter2
04-25-2006, 11:39 PM
I'm not sure that depens on where I am my surrondings and which way I fall.

quteasabutton
04-26-2006, 12:01 AM
I don't think I'd go anywhere. Apparantly it's quite difficult to move once you're dead.

A pretty stupid question when you think about it.
haha i love you oz

-Davo
04-26-2006, 04:12 AM
If you were to die tonight, where would you go?

I'd die in the pub, so I wouldn't have to go anywhere.

2.2 Straight six
04-26-2006, 09:12 AM
i would say the morgue, but all the dead people have made that so cliché.

visit florida, and someone in particular, then on to my friend's house, keel over and die. just to make a mess.

AlmostStock
04-26-2006, 01:46 PM
Since everyone seems to be having a little fun with this, (and it is an automotive forum) I have a question for you FO. Does your car have a "Wave if You Love Jesus" bumper sticker on it, or just the simple stick fish?

Since this is the Philosophizing sub forum I will answer your question seriously. (Maybe the first to do so?)

After I die, I expect to go to the same place I was before being conceived. Nowhere. I will no longer have a working brain, eyes, ears or anything else that would allow me to experience anything or "be" anywhere. I will no longer exist in any way shape or form. Definitely not as seductive as ever lasting life to be sure, but arguably more logical.

tenguzero
04-26-2006, 02:31 PM
I wouldn't go anywhere, myself. I'd just hang around and haunt people, flicker lights, scare children -- that kind of stuff. I suppose I'd pretty much wing-it, really.

Fiero Outlaw
04-26-2006, 10:50 PM
Proverbs 16:25 (NIV): There is a way that seems right to a man,
but in the end it leads to death.

"I'm basically a good person, so I'll go to heaven."

"OK, so I do some bad things, but I do more good things, so I'll go to heaven."

"God won't send me to hell just because I don't live by the Bible. Times have changed!"

"Only really bad people like child molesters and murderers go to hell."

These are all common rationales among most people, but the truth is, they are all lies. Satan, the ruler of the world, plants these thoughts in our heads. He, and anyone who follows his ways, is an enemy to God (1Pet 5:8). Satan always disguises himself as good (2 Corinthians 11:14), but he has control over all the minds that do not belong to God. "Satan, the god of this evil world, has blinded the minds of those who don't believe, so they are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News that is shining upon them. They don't understand the message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God" (2 Corinthians 4:4).

It is a lie to believe that God doesn't care about small sins, and that hell is reserved for "bad people." All sin separates us from God, even a “little white lie”. Everyone has sinned, and no one is good enough to get to heaven on their own (Romans 3:23). Getting into heaven is not based on whether our good outweighs our bad; we will all lose out if that is the case. "And if they are saved by God's kindness, then it is not by their good works. For in that case, God's wonderful kindness would not be what it really is - free and undeserved" (Romans 11:6). We can do nothing good to earn our way to heaven (Titus 3:5).

"You can enter God's Kingdom only through the narrow gate. The highway to hell is broad, and its gate is wide for the many who choose the easy way" (Matthew 7:13). Even if everyone is living a life of sin, and trusting in God is not popular, God will not excuse it. "You used to live just like the rest of the world, full of sin, obeying Satan, the mighty prince of the power of the air. He is the spirit at work in the hearts of those who refuse to obey God" (Ephesians 2:2).

When God created the world, it was perfect. Everything was good. Then he made Adam and Eve, and gave them their own free will, so they would have a choice whether to follow and obey God or not. But Adam and Eve, the very first people God made, were tempted by Satan to disobey God, and they sinned. This separated them (and everyone that came after them, including us) from being able to have a close relationship with God. He is perfect and cannot be among sin. As sinners, we couldn't make it there on our own. So, God made a way that we could be united with Him in heaven. "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life" (John 3:16). "For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus our Lord" (Romans 6:23).

Jesus was born so that He could teach us the way and die for our sins so that we would not have to. Three days after His death, He rose from the grave (Romans 4:25), proving Himself victorious over death. He bridged the gap between God and man so that we may have a personal relationship with Him if we would only believe.

"And this is the way to have eternal life - to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, the one you sent to earth" (John 17:3).

Most people believe in God, even Satan does. But to receive salvation, we must turn to God, form a personal relationship, turn away from our sins, and follow Him. We must trust in Jesus with everything we have and everything we do. "We are made right in God's sight when we trust in Jesus Christ to take away our sins. And we all can be saved in this way, no matter who we are or what we have done" (Romans 3:22). The Bible teaches that there is no other way to salvation than through Christ. Jesus says in John 14:6, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me."

Jesus is the only way of salvation because He is the only One who can pay our sin penalty (Romans 6:23). No other religion teaches the depth or seriousness of sin and its consequences. No other religion offers the infinite payment of sin that only Jesus Christ could provide. No other “religious founder” was God become man (John 1:1,14) – the only way an infinite debt could be paid. Jesus had to be God so that He could pay our debt. Jesus had to be man so He could die. Salvation is available only through faith in Jesus Christ! “Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved” (Acts 4:12).

Quoted from:
http://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-only-way.html

My question was meant to get people to think. Think about it though... What would happen to you if you died tonight? It's nice to think that you cease to exist. But think about it through your own terms logically: "What if the Bible is correct?"

Now I'm not saying I'm believing because I'm scared. I'm believing because I know it's the true path. Look at the Universe, Earth, everything....

Do you really think we popped into existence without God making us?? Do you really think everything came into existence suddenly, without a creator?

Say if you were to be walking on a beach, and were to see a watch lying on the sand. Let's say it's a Rolex, worth a lot of money. Now thinking logically do you believe that through millions of years of shifting sands, and water, the sand carved the metal to become a watch? Let alone a rolex? Think about it...

Now look at Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism etc. then look at Christianity...

No one except for us teach that you must put your faith in someone. They all teach about "Good works" bringing you into Heaven, or about enlightment.

Good works will not cut it...

Now look at the laws of our Government.

Have you ever broken a law? Have you ever gone over the speed limit in your car?

We all can say we have. Drag racing on the street is illegal, but I'm sure most have done it.

Everyone has broken a law at least once in their life...

Now look at the 10 commandments:

(1) “You shall have no other gods before me.”
(2) “You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below."
(3) “You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses His name.”
(4) “Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy."
(5) “Honor your father and your mother."
(6) “You shall not murder.”
(7) “You shall not commit adultery.”
(8) “You shall not steal.”
(9) “You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.”
(10) “You shall not covet your neighbor's house. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his manservant or maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.”

Now when Christ died on the cross for our sins, and anyone who believes in him live under the new law. But, the 10 commandments should be examples for what God doesn't like.

1. Have you ever committed yourself to something so much... that in a sense, became a "god" to you? We all have... Money, power, lust
2. Same as 1 in a sense
3. Have you ever said anything derogatory using God in it?
4. Doesn't really apply today, but everyday should be put before God.
5. Have you ever done something to make your parents mad at you? Has there ever been a time that you disrespected them?
6. Have you ever had an evil thought about another person? Just because you don't kill them, doesn't mean that no one has ever been angered against another person, and that counts just as much...
7. Have you ever thought of a girl in a sexual way? Have you ever cheated on someone?
8. Have you ever taken anything at all in your life? Have you ever thought about taking anything... it's all the same.
9. Have you ever lied?
10. Have you ever wanted something someone else owns?

Everyone has broken a law sometime in their life, everyone has broken the 10 commandments (But to a Christian, the commandments are this: Love the Lord your God with all your heart, and love your neighbor just as yourself, which it still holds to the 10 commandments.)

I believe in Christ, and I'm sharing my love for him to you. I am not crazy... I'm just trying to spread the truth. We're all sinners, wether you ackowledge it or not. But know that if you put your faith in Christ, and repent of your sins, you will be saved. Yes Christians still sin. I am a sinner. But I know I'm justified through Him. It won't be possible in this life for even a Christian to ever fully stop sinning. But know that it's not a license to sin. Instead when you become a Christian you try your best to live for God... Prayer, reading his word, trying your best to stay away from sin, and spreading the gospel. Praying to God and asking forgiveness of the sins you commit during the day is a normal thing for true Christians. Asking for help from God to help you in everything you do, and praying to know His will in your life.

The Way:
Are you hungry? Not physically hungry, but do you have a hunger for something more in life? Is there something deep inside you that never seems to be satisfied? If so, Jesus is the way! Jesus said, "I am the bread of life. He who comes to me will never go hungry, and he who believes in me will never be thirsty" (John 6:35).

Are you confused? Can you never seem to find a path or purpose in life? Does it seem like someone has turned out the lights and you cannot find the switch? If so, Jesus is the way! Jesus proclaimed, "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life" (John 8:12).

Do you ever feel like you are locked out of life? Have you tried so many doors, only to find that what is behind them is empty and meaningless? Are you looking for an entrance into a fulfilling life? If so, Jesus is the way! Jesus declared, "I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved. He will come in and go out, and find pasture" (John 10:9).

Do other people always let you down? Have your relationships been shallow and empty? Does it seem like everyone is trying to take advantage of you? If so, Jesus is the way! Jesus said, "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep...I am the good shepherd; I know my sheep and my sheep know me" (John 10:11, 14).

Do you wonder what happens after this life? Are you tired of living your life for things that only rot or rust? Do you sometimes doubt whether life has any meaning? Do you want to live after you die? If so, Jesus is the way! Jesus declared, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies; and whoever lives and believes in me will never die" (John 11:25-26).

What is the way? What is the truth? What is the life? Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" (John 14:6).

The hunger that you feel is a spiritual hunger, and can only be filled by Jesus. Jesus is the only one who can lift the darkness. Jesus is the gate to a satisfying life. Jesus is the friend and shepherd that you have been looking for. Jesus is the life - in this world and the next. Jesus is the way of salvation!

The reason you feel hungry, the reason you seem to be lost in darkness, the reason you can't find meaning in life, is that you are separated from God. The Bible tells us that we have all sinned, and are therefore separated from God (Ecclesiastes 7:20; Romans 3:23). The void you feel in your heart is God missing from your life. We were created to have a relationship with God. Because of our sin, we are separated from that relationship. Even worse, our sin will cause us to be separated from God for all of eternity, this life and the next (Romans 6:23; John 3:36).

How can this problem be solved? Jesus is the way! Jesus took our sin upon Himself (2 Corinthians 5:21). Jesus died in our place (Romans 5:8), taking the punishment that we deserve. Three days later, Jesus rose from the dead, proving His victory over sin and death (Romans 6:4-5). Why did He do it? Jesus answered that question Himself, "Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends" (John 15:13). Jesus died so that we could live. If we place our faith in Jesus, trusting His death as the payment for our sins - all of our sins are forgiven and washed away. We will then have our spiritual hunger satisfied. The lights will be turned on. We will have access to a fulfilling life. We will know our true best friend and good shepherd. We will know that we will have life after we die - a resurrected life in heaven for eternity with Jesus!

"For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life" (John 3:16).

An example prayer:

Dear Heavenly Father,

I know I'm a sinner Lord, I know that I cannot gain my salvation on my own terms. I believe that Christ died on the cross for my sins, and I know he was buried, and ressurected by you. I don't want to goto Hell when I die, and want to be with you. I repent of my sins Lord, and know that by your grace, I shall be saved.
I pray, and ask these things in Jesus's name, Amen.

After that, commit yourself trully to him. Pray, read his word, and do his will everyday. Try your best, and know that by his grace, you're saved!

goto: www.gotquestions.org and read up for any questions you may have
also: www.biblegateway.com for online Bible's.

I'll answer any questions anyone has. But after becoming a Christian.. find a Good, honest Bible-Believing and Preaching Church. Watch out for traps, and watch out for places that teach a false way. Catholicism is not the truth. Catholics teach that Christ plus works will gain you your salvation. Instead by your works you shall know you're a Christian.

Baptist Church's are a good start, but only if they preach the truth in the Bible, and that's by placing your complete faith in Christ. You cannot get to Heaven any other way. God doesn't send you to Hell either... the evil you do in your life is what sends you.

But have Faith, anyone who accepts Christ as their savior alone will be saved. But just saying the words and going off doing what you want, doesn't show that your saved. Instead, by the works you do, shall show that you're saved.

Oz
04-26-2006, 11:01 PM
You actually expect anyone to read through all of that?

:lol2:

Cliff notes, 2 sentences or less, plz.

driftinggrifter2
04-26-2006, 11:09 PM
I wouldn't go anywhere, myself. I'd just hang around and haunt people, flicker lights, scare children -- that kind of stuff. I suppose I'd pretty much wing-it, really.
dont forget to possess them that would be cool

quteasabutton
04-26-2006, 11:35 PM
You actually expect anyone to read through all of that?

:lol2:

Cliff notes, 2 sentences or less, plz.
my sweet jesus that has to be the longest post i have ever seen, once again, i'm agreeing with the great and powerful oz

driftinggrifter2
04-26-2006, 11:48 PM
I browsed through it and
cliffnotes in one sentence:
he is more or less preaching and tellin ya a prayer you could use

KustmAce
04-27-2006, 01:52 AM
anyone else hear that?

sounds like some kind of "thumping" noise...

Fiero Outlaw
04-27-2006, 08:09 AM
http://www.gotquestions.org/way-of-salvation.html

I'm not forcing anyone to become a Christian. I'm only doing my best to spread the word. I know that when I die, I'll be in Heaven, and I'm showing you guys the hope I have in my Lord and Savior.

I know my prior post is a long one, but please read through it... it's well worth the time!!

Jesus Christ is the only way
Heaven and Hell Exist

Anyone who puts their faith in Christ will be saved. :)

2.2 Straight six
04-27-2006, 09:33 AM
sorry, mate, you're preaching to the wrong crowd.

quteasabutton
04-27-2006, 09:37 AM
jesus christ is NOT the only way. so are you saying that since i don't believe in religion because i think it is the biggest hoax in the history of the world that i'm really fucking myself over for when i die?

i could make up my own whooole story right now about creation and myself and 1000 years from now, they'd have to believe it cuz that's all they have and i said that's what's going to happen.

you claim you're not pushing anyone to be a christian, yet like 5 lines later you tell us jesus christ is the only way and if we don't side with you we won't be "saved".

it's jesusfreaks like you that piss me off. always trying to tell me i need God in my life and i need to be "saved". it's Darwinism 100% here. you don't see me posting threads about how God is fake and that Charles Darwin is our new saviour. know why? cuz i'm not going to push my views on other people like you. i have my respect for myself, for my views, and especially other people. did you know it says in the bible that you're not supposed to be doing that anyways? bad christian..

2.2 Straight six
04-27-2006, 09:43 AM
im aeithist, don't believe in religion. the only time i mention it is when i say things like "you can help in many ways, lord have mercy."

AlbanyCartel
04-27-2006, 11:14 AM
don't you think you should just let the people who are truly interested, to find religion themselves.

for example: i am a hindu, and in my religion it is forbidden to coerce, force, or persuade another to join.
if you are truly interested, you will learn about and join voluntarily.

we do not "spread the word of jesus", if you are interested, you will find it yourself.

in other words, its cool if you join, but its also cool if you don't; we're not too concerned :)

its your life, you make the decisions.

Muscletang
04-27-2006, 11:33 AM
I'm not forcing anyone to become a Christian.

Yeah you are. People don't like you throwing this stuff at them. I mean I'd react this way if some guy was saying on here Buddhism is the only way or I'm going to hell.

I'm only doing my best to spread the word.

You're doing a piss poor job so far.

Also, I am a Christian, surprised you I bet, BUT I also live in the real world.

2.2 Straight six
04-27-2006, 11:34 AM
remember, this is a car forum, despite the philosophy sub-forum, and we're here to either talk about cars or postwhore. please don't put up 5-page long posts about jesus being the only option or we'll burn in hell for all eternity. you are welcome here, but not if you're trying to recruit us.

2.2 Straight six
04-27-2006, 11:35 AM
Also, I am a Christian, surprised you I bet, BUT I also live in the real world.

no you don't. you still think the nesquik bunny's real.

Muscletang
04-27-2006, 11:38 AM
no you don't. you still think the nesquik bunny's real.

:shakehead

You should ask for forgiveness 2.2 or else your chocolate milk days are over.

2.2 Straight six
04-27-2006, 12:08 PM
i'm going to burn in hell for all eternity too, huh? that sucks...

turtlecrxsi
04-27-2006, 12:46 PM
i'm going to burn in hell for all eternity too, huh? that sucks...

Me too. Because I'm Catholic but don't go to church... and cuz I never gave the Trix bunny any cereal... and now I'm diabetic.

quteasabutton
04-27-2006, 01:34 PM
and another thing about your "spreading the word of jesus"...you seriously think people exist out there that haven't heard of jesus and are in DESPERATE need of people like you to come save them and enlighten them. no sweetie..just no. you find me one person who isn't mentally disabled or under the age of 4 who hasn't heard of jesus and i will find you 20.8 million people who have for each one that you find. see what i mean? you're welcome here, just not for trying to spread god's good word.

Damien
04-27-2006, 01:43 PM
WTF!?! I'll deal with ya'll later.

*SPACE RESERVED*

AlmostStock
04-27-2006, 01:52 PM
Don't forget, christians do have a mandate from god (according to the bible) to go out and preach to the world. If anyone wants to do it on AF this is the appropriate sub forum for them to try to save our lost souls. If you take a look back in this forum, god, the afterlife and religion in general, have been a popular subject, and for good reason. Nobody really has proof of any god, or knows what will happen to us (if anything) when we die.

While I may not believe in any religion myself, I can respect the beliefs of others, and actually enjoy discussing these issues.

driftinggrifter2
04-27-2006, 02:27 PM
yes but it's not good to tell people that if they don't beleive in god or jesus that they are going to go to hell because we have people here from many religions and that is a good way to start something between each If you want to preach then ya know whatever just don't tell people that they are going to go to hell if they dont convert.







Jim Morrison is GOD

karmacae
04-27-2006, 03:16 PM
well I am not goieng to hell...I will just be a poor wittle ghost haunting anyone who I feel is not like me.....I will also change your tv channels whily they are watchin tv....yep, thats what I will do...be a ghost.....

driftinggrifter2
04-27-2006, 03:53 PM
How come everyone is leaving out possession. Wouldn't that be fun thats where I would go I would possess Brad Pitt so I can be with Angelina

quteasabutton
04-27-2006, 04:44 PM
How come everyone is leaving out possession. Wouldn't that be fun thats where I would go I would possess Brad Pitt so I can be with Angelina
well in that case i'm going to have to possess angelina

driftinggrifter2
04-27-2006, 04:45 PM
woohooo fourway

mellowboy
04-27-2006, 10:39 PM
Now look at Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism etc. then look at Christianity...

No one except for us teach that you must put your faith in someone. They all teach about "Good works" bringing you into Heaven, or about enlightment.





Its more complex than that.






But have Faith, anyone who accepts Christ as their savior alone will be saved. But just saying the words and going off doing what you want, doesn't show that your saved. Instead, by the works you do, shall show that you're saved.

Christianity is such a passive religion, am I right? Its like saying I have a headache, would you mind taking aspirin for me? Doesn't make sense right? Thats how I feel with Christianity.


And to answer the original question, only God knows.

mellowboy
04-27-2006, 11:13 PM
Jesus Christ is the only way



Thats according to your beliefs. In my belief, those who think like you ..Jesus (p) would be a witness against you.

Almost every religion will say that there right and you're wrong. My advice to everyone is that you chose what makes sense to you, what suits you the best. If you chose not to have a religion or have a religion its up to you. One thing I dont do and many muslims will agree is that we dont shove our religion down ppl's throat. Why do you think we call you guys "bible thumpers?" You guys pressure ppl or put them in a "no choice" situation to recieve "guidance" or help. PPL dont guide ppl to God. Its God himself will guide ppl unto Him and Him only.

driftinggrifter2
04-28-2006, 12:18 AM
Thats according to your beliefs. In my belief, those who think like you ..Jesus (p) would be a witness against you.

Almost every religion will say that there right and you're wrong. My advice to everyone is that you chose what makes sense to you, what suits you the best. If you chose not to have a religion or have a religion its up to you. One thing I dont do and many muslims will agree is that we dont shove our religion down ppl's throat. Why do you think we call you guys "bible thumpers?" You guys pressure ppl or put them in a "no choice" situation to recieve "guidance" or help. PPL dont guide ppl to God. Its God himself will guide ppl unto Him and Him only.
thats why i like muslims and hindu's. they have never tried to force anything on me.
Chritsians and Jehova Witnesses on the otherhand have

tenguzero
04-28-2006, 07:33 AM
See, I understand where you're coming from grifter -- possession seems like it would be a really cool pasttime (and when you're dead, I can only assume you'll latch onto anything that will provide amusement.) The catch is, possession seems like it could be a hazy area in respect to the methods and results of the activity. Are you stuck in a body until forcefully expelled? Do you take on the physical afflictions of the person in question? Will you eventually be confronted with some old dude and some amateur pimping their little white collars and exorcism manuals, looking to rip you out of a host you had likely spent so much time molding into a finally possessed husk? I mean, if I'm going to take the time to move in, set up shop, pin up drapes, etc., I don't want some godboy trying to bypass the welcome mat and barge right in like he's got the right to reclaim the place -- especially if I've established myself in a place that tops "sexiest man alive" lists, credits Interview with the Vampire, Fight Club and Snatch to accomplishment lists, and receives regular visits from Angelina.

quteasabutton
04-28-2006, 08:22 AM
religion is just dumb. my cousin, who's now about 25, "found religion" after some cult coerced her into joining and so she moved to oregon (from WI) and i haven't seen her in years. she's now all like "god is the only way, i'll pray for you"...:shakehead i still love her but the god and her cult needs to go

turtlecrxsi
04-28-2006, 08:36 AM
The regular members of AF that have posted in this thread have proven that AF has some really open minded thinkers. The starter of this thread, however, is obviously a closed minded thinker. I live pretty close to the heart of the bible belt whereby there is a church every quarter mile or so and yet I do not go to any. I have my own beliefs and faith in God etc. but I keep them to myself and I think that has actually strengthened my faith.

AlmostStock
04-28-2006, 10:13 AM
My parents raised us as Christian's and took us to church. As a teen I met and dated a few girls there. Wendy and I were getting along pretty good (I thought) until she talked to the youth minister about "us". He advised her to pull back because apparently we were getting too "physical". After explaining it all to me at the end of our last date, she added that she would pray for me! When she got out of my 67 Mustang I laid down two black strips to help relieve my frustration. It worked!

Maybe when I die, I'll get to go to hot rod heaven?

Muscletang
04-28-2006, 10:19 AM
Wendy and I were getting along pretty good (I thought) until she talked to the youth minister about "us". He advised her to pull back because apparently we were getting too "physical". After explaining it all to me at the end of our last date, she added that she would pray for me!

Really? Most of the time you want preacher's daughters or whatever. Most of the time they rebel...and you want to be the one they rebel on :naughty:

beef_bourito
04-29-2006, 08:41 AM
well you say muslims dont push their religion on you? my mom works with muslim man who's always trying to convert her. but he does it in a fun and joking manner so it's ok, he doesn't corner her. but i agree that forcing your religion on someone is not the way. i'm catholic but i think people will chose what religion they want, all you can do is inform them.

one thing i don't agree with is going to war over religion, or killing for religion. No religion should tell you you need to kill for your religion. and one thing i hate is when people think islam is a violent religion. you don't know how many people i've talked to who think that.

anyways, i'd hope to go to heaven when i die. if i'm wrong and god doesn't exist, i expect i would just sease to exist and wouldn't know about it so it really wouldn't matter.

KatWoman097
05-04-2006, 02:56 PM
I'm Christian and belive I'll be in heaven when I die. I'll leave it at that.

sv650s
05-05-2006, 03:16 PM
yeah...i'm from a pretty religious family, africans are very religious.....they blame every bad thing on the devil, my mom still thinks haloween is a celebration of witches and wizards and since i was little i've been scared of demons and even angels and i still am.....i'm not religious at all but i just go to church t satisfy my mom since people gossip too much, i believe there is a god, i don't know if it's the one i worship...many images of the virgin mary have been seen and many visits by angels have been claimed by people but that doesn't mean people in other religions haven't had visions or don't have proof that muhammed actually existed. I'm not a good person but i try my best to be (i'm just a jackass) so if there is a god then i've got a feeling i'm going to hell so just for peace of mind i like to believe in reincarnation

mellowboy
05-05-2006, 09:12 PM
well you say muslims dont push their religion on you? my mom works with muslim man who's always trying to convert her. but he does it in a fun and joking manner so it's ok, he doesn't corner her.



Well which is it? Because you first make it sound serious and then you turned it around in the middle of your sentence as a joke. It looks like you're on a verge to judge somones belief by there actions and it shouldn't be that way. I'll just tell you anyways. Always good to gain knowledge. Islam forbids forcing anyone to convert. I can provide you several quotes from the Qur'an and Hadith to show proof. Right now, i'll just leave it at that.

mellowboy
05-05-2006, 09:33 PM
yeah...i'm from a pretty religious family, africans are very religious.....they blame every bad thing on the devil, my mom still thinks haloween is a celebration of witches and wizards and since i was little i've been scared of demons and even angels and i still am.....i'm not religious at all but i just go to church t satisfy my mom since people gossip too much



Yeh and its also infested with Christian missionaries.

i believe there is a god, i don't know if it's the one i worship...many images of the virgin mary have been seen and many visits by angels have been claimed by people but that doesn't mean people in other religions haven't had visions or don't have proof that muhammed actually existed.


Believing is one thing but worship is another. You can't just choose one or the other. It have to be both. Believing and not worshiping isn't enough. Worshipping and not believing just to satisfy someone else other than God is something you need to not do. People will say , " oh I dont have a religion but I do believe in God in a spiritual way." I dont agree with that. Its like school. In order for us to get anywhere in school we have to have good grades right? We get good grades by working hard so we can achieve the highest goal. So believing in God and worshipping (same concept) is to achieve the highest goal and that is heaven.

I'm not a good person but i try my best to be (i'm just a jackass) so if there is a god then i've got a feeling i'm going to hell so just for peace of mind i like to believe in reincarnation



So why give up? NO ONE on earth will know where they'll go in the afterlife whether it'll be heaven or hell. God is the one who decides that. Not you or anyone else. So trust yourself and if you need God then ask Him to forgive you. Hes the most Merciful , Oft Forgiving after all...

If Christianity doesn't make sense to you then I suggest you search other religions or dont bother? :)


All of the above statements are my opinion and they are in Islamic perspective view also. If i'm annoying with my religious opinions let me know LoL..i dont know what got into me ;)

vinnym86
05-05-2006, 11:43 PM
Now look at Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism etc. then look at Christianity...

No one except for us teach that you must put your faith in someone. They all teach about "Good works" bringing you into Heaven, or about enlightment.

now, if you only put as much interest to learn those religions as you have your own, you might not sound like you're a mindless drone preaching 'the word'.

sorry, i have this huge thing i'd like to say, but i really don't feel like wasting my time as i know how much it'll phase someone like you.
3. Remember that no one can ever know who's right until one dies. It's perfectly fine to be convinced of your belief, but remember that other people aren't. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and belief, and deserves the same amount of respect as everyone else.


Through experience I've noted that never once has someone been convinced to believe in another system through simple forum talk - just remember that you're never going to convince that person to believe what you believe, and they will never convince you to believe what they believe, so there is no point fighting about it

edit:

oh, as for where i'd go? ...mmm, probably ihop. you know they have endless coffee for the price of 1 cup!? although it'd be kinda hard to place the order, being dead and all. that, or a park. a park with a stream, and a broken down mill... yeah, that's chillin.

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