Some night fun
Gotian
04-25-2006, 12:12 AM
Well this all started last week, I found out about a mod for my car that only costs about 5-10 dollars and it's a do it yourself. So I figure worth a shot to see if it works, if it doesnt then I can always remove everything and all I've lost is 5-10 bucks. So I got all the materials and put the mod together with a friend. It worked! I now have 3 settings, stock mode (9psi, 11 peak), Medium mode (11psi, 13 peak), and giant "oh my god a jetta should not be doing this!!!!!!!" Mode. (14.5psi, 18 peak, but holds 16 all the live long day in 4th and 5th.)
So Ive been driving aroundduring the night getting used to my newfound power in the car (should be around 240whp and 265-270wtq, at least that what other jettas and gti's my year and up have gotten by doing this mod.) After driving for a good 20-30 mins I come to this conclusion. I now have alot of wheel hop and this is what SRT's must feel like when they launch.
I get to a red light and see a Scion TC sitting next to me, I put the car in stock mode and start revving at the guy. He looks at me with a weird look like what are you thinking. The light turns green and we both launch, I put about 5 cars on him by 4th gear. I slow down put the car in neutral and start revving again. He slams on the gas and I now put the car into my highest mode and shift into 3rd making my tires chirp. He has about a 3 car lead on me. I shift to 4th and bring the boost all the way up to 18. While saying in 4th I passed the guy and went all the way home.
I got home and looked at my tires, they were freaking hot as hell! Guess I can't stay on the stock rims any longer...
So Ive been driving aroundduring the night getting used to my newfound power in the car (should be around 240whp and 265-270wtq, at least that what other jettas and gti's my year and up have gotten by doing this mod.) After driving for a good 20-30 mins I come to this conclusion. I now have alot of wheel hop and this is what SRT's must feel like when they launch.
I get to a red light and see a Scion TC sitting next to me, I put the car in stock mode and start revving at the guy. He looks at me with a weird look like what are you thinking. The light turns green and we both launch, I put about 5 cars on him by 4th gear. I slow down put the car in neutral and start revving again. He slams on the gas and I now put the car into my highest mode and shift into 3rd making my tires chirp. He has about a 3 car lead on me. I shift to 4th and bring the boost all the way up to 18. While saying in 4th I passed the guy and went all the way home.
I got home and looked at my tires, they were freaking hot as hell! Guess I can't stay on the stock rims any longer...
rice(er)
04-25-2006, 12:28 AM
hmmmmmmmmmmmm............................
CivRacer95
04-25-2006, 01:54 AM
So what exactly is it that you bought and used to up the psi? Seeing as though it was only 10-15 bucks, I'm curious to know what it is...
Anyway, good race...:thumbsup:
Anyway, good race...:thumbsup:
98StangGT
04-25-2006, 01:57 AM
So what exactly is it that you bought and used to up the psi? Seeing as though it was only 10-15 bucks, I'm curious to know what it is...
Anyway, good race...:thumbsup:
He bought an Ethiopian that hides under the hood and blows into his turbo when he wants more boost.
Ethiopian mod for the win!
Anyway, good race...:thumbsup:
He bought an Ethiopian that hides under the hood and blows into his turbo when he wants more boost.
Ethiopian mod for the win!
CivRacer95
04-25-2006, 02:06 AM
Ah...that's pretty interesting. Guess it is pretty worth it then considering what you gained off of it. Nice...
Chiquae07
04-25-2006, 07:54 AM
He bought an Ethiopian that hides under the hood and blows into his turbo when he wants more boost.
Ethiopian mod for the win!
lol.....thats too funny....can i sig that?
Ethiopian mod for the win!
lol.....thats too funny....can i sig that?
Musashi3000GT
04-25-2006, 08:10 AM
Its a boost mod. the VR-4 has it too, some people call it the "free boost mod" but it actually costs like 4 bucks. The old DSMs had it as well and cost about 10 bucks to do. In the DSM and the VR-4 you take a couple of vacume lines and either plug them or re-route them and it bring the boost up from 9 psi to 12 or 14 psi. The money is spent of clamps and "T" fittings.
In the Jetta, Golf, and A4 its the same thing except your messing with the ellectronics rather then the hoses. You essentially use a couple of diodes to change the voltage reading to the ECU. the ECU is tricked and then responds by increasing boost and fuel to compensate.
In the Jetta, Golf, and A4 its the same thing except your messing with the ellectronics rather then the hoses. You essentially use a couple of diodes to change the voltage reading to the ECU. the ECU is tricked and then responds by increasing boost and fuel to compensate.
Gotian
04-25-2006, 11:32 AM
actually you cant do it in the A4's cause you fry some stuff or they just dont work, cause it has alot more electrical things into it.
There is also one more part that I still need to do so that way I can hold more boost longer. Cause right now the way that the mod worked was that it changed the parameters of the ecu to make it think its supposed to boost 18 stock
There is also one more part that I still need to do so that way I can hold more boost longer. Cause right now the way that the mod worked was that it changed the parameters of the ecu to make it think its supposed to boost 18 stock
Chiquae07
04-25-2006, 11:32 PM
i thought it was about those lines of free boost mod like the dsms. sounds like its time for gotian to get motor mounts and new lightweight rims to enjoy the free boost even more.
Gotian
04-25-2006, 11:45 PM
i thought it was about those lines of free boost mod like the dsms. sounds like its time for gotian to get motor mounts and new lightweight rims to enjoy the free boost even more.
dont need the motor mounts, just using a helper spring on the wastegate to hold the boost in, plus I'm ordering an upgraded n75 valve which is the n75 version J. The valve should increase my boost by about 3 more pounds safely in each of my modes so the ecu will make up for the extra boost since it thinks that it hasnt reached it's limit yet.
dont need the motor mounts, just using a helper spring on the wastegate to hold the boost in, plus I'm ordering an upgraded n75 valve which is the n75 version J. The valve should increase my boost by about 3 more pounds safely in each of my modes so the ecu will make up for the extra boost since it thinks that it hasnt reached it's limit yet.
Musashi3000GT
04-26-2006, 07:49 AM
Dude thats way too much boost on stock injectors. Order a A/F guage NOW! otherwise your gonna burn a hole right through your pistons!
Safety first moffo!
Safety first moffo!
Gotian
04-26-2006, 08:36 AM
Dude thats way too much boost on stock injectors. Order a A/F guage NOW! otherwise your gonna burn a hole right through your pistons!
Safety first moffo!
actually the ecu makes up for it and if something does happen it still goes into limp mode. Which is why if my boost tries to over the 17psi I go into it. But i'm going to order a 4 bar fpr to make up for it
Safety first moffo!
actually the ecu makes up for it and if something does happen it still goes into limp mode. Which is why if my boost tries to over the 17psi I go into it. But i'm going to order a 4 bar fpr to make up for it
Drifty
04-26-2006, 06:05 PM
Good Job, you went to my job and are using Plumbing parts to mod your car.....
Musashi3000GT
04-26-2006, 06:13 PM
that sounds a bit sarcastic.....are you making fun of him?
Drifty
04-26-2006, 06:18 PM
nope its actually a normal thing if you hang out in the plumbing line long enough its just i joked with him about it a loooooooonngg time ago he prolly doesnt remember.. he had me foled from where he bought it until he said "Its a do it yourself part"
Musashi3000GT
04-26-2006, 06:31 PM
Your reffering to the old Ricers in Homedepot joke.
Well that joke was started by ricers who are so stupid they dont realize they are ricers.
people who think "modding or tunning" means ordering from websites and bolting on.
well If you hang out at races and talk to pros as often as we do you realize that you need to drop by homedepot once in a while. Ive bought all my welding, rust proofing, silicone sealing and fiberglass stuff for the Starion at Homedepot. Home depot also sells neumatic fitting which is what we where looking for that night. A "t" fitting to run the boost guage off of. but the stocking was so poor we ended up in the plumbing isle. it didnt work so the next day I had to go to the autoparts next to my job and get a real "t" fitting and there you go.
Honestly I dont think Ive ever met a car guy who never dropped by the homedepot for supplies.....unless its one of those fake car guys that pays tunner shops to do all his/her work cause he/she is too much of a noob to install a turbo timmer or a set of springs or a steering wheel or some bigginer stuff.
Well that joke was started by ricers who are so stupid they dont realize they are ricers.
people who think "modding or tunning" means ordering from websites and bolting on.
well If you hang out at races and talk to pros as often as we do you realize that you need to drop by homedepot once in a while. Ive bought all my welding, rust proofing, silicone sealing and fiberglass stuff for the Starion at Homedepot. Home depot also sells neumatic fitting which is what we where looking for that night. A "t" fitting to run the boost guage off of. but the stocking was so poor we ended up in the plumbing isle. it didnt work so the next day I had to go to the autoparts next to my job and get a real "t" fitting and there you go.
Honestly I dont think Ive ever met a car guy who never dropped by the homedepot for supplies.....unless its one of those fake car guys that pays tunner shops to do all his/her work cause he/she is too much of a noob to install a turbo timmer or a set of springs or a steering wheel or some bigginer stuff.
Gotian
04-26-2006, 08:18 PM
dude I stopped by your job to say hi and i brought that up to make a joke. I bought the parts I needed from an electronics store over by miami beach. Johnson and maria went with me to get it.
Drifty
04-26-2006, 08:24 PM
Umm No Duh Musashi even Gotian got the joke.... So calm down
Musashi3000GT
04-26-2006, 08:47 PM
why is everyone telling me to calm down lately?
do I really sound upset all the time?
I really need to find people more on my level.....
do I really sound upset all the time?
I really need to find people more on my level.....
VR43000GT
04-26-2006, 08:50 PM
^^ I know your not because I've heard you speak about how your just explaining. However, for some reason whenever I read you posts I always feel you are yelling....lol. I dont know why you just do. Even if your saying nice kill. Sorry, thats just how it is. You need Igor to make an official annoucement saying that you arent yelling in your posts.
lol.......J/k
But Seriously
lol.......J/k
But Seriously
Chiquae07
04-26-2006, 08:53 PM
^^^agreed. u do sound like it, but ik your not. its just his typing style thats all
CivRacer95
04-27-2006, 12:53 AM
why is everyone telling me to calm down lately?
do I really sound upset all the time?
I really need to find people more on my level.....
You'll find plenty of people on your level here:
http://www.apa.org/topics/controlanger.html
:biggrin:
do I really sound upset all the time?
I really need to find people more on my level.....
You'll find plenty of people on your level here:
http://www.apa.org/topics/controlanger.html
:biggrin:
2000LS1Z28
04-27-2006, 02:01 AM
Good kill. I dunno about those horsepower claims though. Doesn't your car typically dyno around 160whp stock? What other mods do you have on it?
Anyways, in a few months I may be in Florida, so maybe I can run you and Musashi if I am able to bring my car over with me.
Anyways, in a few months I may be in Florida, so maybe I can run you and Musashi if I am able to bring my car over with me.
Gotian
04-27-2006, 02:08 AM
Good kill. I dunno about those horsepower claims though. Doesn't your car typically dyno around 160whp stock? What other mods do you have on it?
Anyways, in a few months I may be in Florida, so maybe I can run you and Musashi if I am able to bring my car over with me.
172 whp stock @9psi
I was boosting 11psi before and had close to 200whp now I'm boosting 18psi and should be in the 230-240whp range. One guy who had this mod got a 13.6 1/4 mile and another got 13.8 while the guys who chipped the car were running not more than 14.3. and I'm talking without any other mods except tightening the wastegate to hold the boost longer since as you climb the rpms the boost tends to settle at 15-16
Anyways, in a few months I may be in Florida, so maybe I can run you and Musashi if I am able to bring my car over with me.
172 whp stock @9psi
I was boosting 11psi before and had close to 200whp now I'm boosting 18psi and should be in the 230-240whp range. One guy who had this mod got a 13.6 1/4 mile and another got 13.8 while the guys who chipped the car were running not more than 14.3. and I'm talking without any other mods except tightening the wastegate to hold the boost longer since as you climb the rpms the boost tends to settle at 15-16
Right_LiRrr
04-27-2006, 10:31 AM
Isn't essentially what you're doing is "chipping" your car? I mean, you're messing with the ECU, it's not much different to what piggyback ECUs do.
And I agree with musashi, safety first. For most turbo cars you need to do a bit of work before u can increase boost e.g. injectors, fuel pump, intake, exhaust, and that's talking about modest increases in boost. And doing it from stock 9psi to 18psi is a HUGE increase. It's the equivalent of me dialing up my boost to 28PSI. I woulda though your car was built to only handle low boost, 18psi is pretty damn high. I hope you don't blow ur engine.
And yes musashi, you do sound angry/cocky/asshole in ur posts. But since u explained that's just the shitiness of the internet as a communications medium, then that's that.
And I agree with musashi, safety first. For most turbo cars you need to do a bit of work before u can increase boost e.g. injectors, fuel pump, intake, exhaust, and that's talking about modest increases in boost. And doing it from stock 9psi to 18psi is a HUGE increase. It's the equivalent of me dialing up my boost to 28PSI. I woulda though your car was built to only handle low boost, 18psi is pretty damn high. I hope you don't blow ur engine.
And yes musashi, you do sound angry/cocky/asshole in ur posts. But since u explained that's just the shitiness of the internet as a communications medium, then that's that.
Gotian
04-27-2006, 10:56 AM
Isn't essentially what you're doing is "chipping" your car? I mean, you're messing with the ECU, it's not much different to what piggyback ECUs do.
And I agree with musashi, safety first. For most turbo cars you need to do a bit of work before u can increase boost e.g. injectors, fuel pump, intake, exhaust, and that's talking about modest increases in boost. And doing it from stock 9psi to 18psi is a HUGE increase. It's the equivalent of me dialing up my boost to 28PSI. I woulda though your car was built to only handle low boost, 18psi is pretty damn high. I hope you don't blow ur engine.
And yes musashi, you do sound angry/cocky/asshole in ur posts. But since u explained that's just the shitiness of the internet as a communications medium, then that's that.
Thanks for your concern but I tried to explain this before, when I did this (which by the way it is the equivillent to the ECU upgrade except you get more power) the mod makes the ecu believe it boosts 18 stock so it makes up for it by adding more fuel and corrects the timing. If I was running lean the car would tell me by going into limp mode and putting a CEL on for me. but since it doesnt do eitherof the 2 and the temp of my car has been normal then I'm fine for now.
And I agree with musashi, safety first. For most turbo cars you need to do a bit of work before u can increase boost e.g. injectors, fuel pump, intake, exhaust, and that's talking about modest increases in boost. And doing it from stock 9psi to 18psi is a HUGE increase. It's the equivalent of me dialing up my boost to 28PSI. I woulda though your car was built to only handle low boost, 18psi is pretty damn high. I hope you don't blow ur engine.
And yes musashi, you do sound angry/cocky/asshole in ur posts. But since u explained that's just the shitiness of the internet as a communications medium, then that's that.
Thanks for your concern but I tried to explain this before, when I did this (which by the way it is the equivillent to the ECU upgrade except you get more power) the mod makes the ecu believe it boosts 18 stock so it makes up for it by adding more fuel and corrects the timing. If I was running lean the car would tell me by going into limp mode and putting a CEL on for me. but since it doesnt do eitherof the 2 and the temp of my car has been normal then I'm fine for now.
302exploder
04-27-2006, 03:47 PM
Good Job, you went to my job and are using Plumbing parts to mod your car.....
sadly, i know a person that put a fart can and a cai made out of PVC on a freaking minivan! that has got to be the height of rice:screwy::banghead:
sadly, i know a person that put a fart can and a cai made out of PVC on a freaking minivan! that has got to be the height of rice:screwy::banghead:
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