1/12 Scale Jaguar XJR-14 WIP

This is a project I started about two years ago. It is 100% computer generated and made by way of a process called Steriolithography. Also known as 3D Printing or SLA. I have About $3500.00 US invested in the parts you see plus some that you don't see. There are about 1/3 as many more parts still to be "Grown" or made by the SLA process. I started this project to explore the SLA process and to evaluate the economics of the process for pattern & master production. There is a fair amount of hand finishing required to make the surface the quality required for modeling and mold making. It took me about 10 months of working nights and weekends (as my regular day job permited) to generate the 3D computer model. If all goes as planned I intend on producing this as a kit but right now it is only a "work in progress".

Let me know what you think. I will try to post updates as to the progess of the project. Please remember it has taken two years to get it this far.

Please enjoy

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Sorry, posted this in the wrong area. Could someone please move to WIP area.

Thanks

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That looks really clean, looks like a godd amount of detail on the body to. Good luck with the rest of it.

Doug

Wow I bet every piece will fit perfectly! Is this the only model of the XJR-14?

WOW this is going to be awesome. I work on CAD and have had stereolithography parts produced. The accuracy possible is amazing.

Can't wait to see more!

I’ve heard of these kind of 3D printers, but never seen it applied to modelling before. This could well be the future of our hobby. Are all those pieces the masters grown by the SLA process? Will you use them to cast a mould and make resin copies? The trees on the parts shot make it look like cast copies.

Anyway, sorry for all the questions. It's awesome to see this kind of work being done and an extremely nice subject. But IMHO you should definitely lose the humongous logo on the bottom! :)

I’ve heard of these kind of 3D printers, but never seen it applied to modelling before. This could well be the future of our hobby. Are all those pieces the masters grown by the SLA process? Will you use them to cast a mould and make resin copies? The trees on the parts shot make it look like cast copies.

Anyway, sorry for all the questions. It's awesome to see this kind of work being done and an extremely nice subject. But IMHO you should definitely lose the humongous logo on the bottom! :)


I agree about the great potential for the future of modeling...

Great companies will have their balls handed to them if it gets easily and cheap...

And as for the logo, keep it, something to be proud of, to my knowing a first time this has also been done to modeling!

Impressive and so good!

Oli

That looks really clean, looks like a godd amount of detail on the body to. Good luck with the rest of it.

Doug

Thank You!!!

Wow I bet every piece will fit perfectly! Is this the only model of the XJR-14?

Actually, I've been massaging the parts to make them all fit perfectly. This is the only XJR-14 in 1/12 scale. Both LMM & Studio 27 have done 1/24th scale versions.

WOW this is going to be awesome. I work on CAD and have had stereolithography parts produced. The accuracy possible is amazing.

Can't wait to see more!

The accuracy is amazing. I only wish the surface finish was a little better. But all in all I'm very pleased with the project so far.

I’ve heard of these kind of 3D printers, but never seen it applied to modelling before. This could well be the future of our hobby. Are all those pieces the masters grown by the SLA process? Will you use them to cast a mould and make resin copies? The trees on the parts shot make it look like cast copies.

Anyway, sorry for all the questions. It's awesome to see this kind of work being done and an extremely nice subject. But IMHO you should definitely lose the humongous logo on the bottom! :)

You probably have seen it applied but just didn't realize it. I believe Model Factory Hiro & Tameo have used this process for years now. I think it is more cost effective for the smaller scale models. Everything in the pictures has been made via Steriolithography. Yes I will use these as masters to make moulds. I had them produced with the sprue in place so that I would be one step ahead when it came time to make the moulds. When I do the moulds the sprue will actually be the fill gate for each part. I thought you might like the subject matter. Thanks for the advise on the Logo. When was the last time you looked at a painting that didn't have a signature??? I'm very proud of my work, my logo is my signature. It will be on ALL my models:grinyes: :grinyes: :grinyes: :grinyes: .

I agree about the great potential for the future of modeling...

Great companies will have their balls handed to them if it gets easily and cheap...

And as for the logo, keep it, something to be proud of, to my knowing a first time this has also been done to modeling!

Impressive and so good!

Oli

Thank you for the encouragement

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Fair enough keeping the logo, but make it raised detail rather than engraved - so it can be sanded off easier. :lol:

So just how sturdy are the Steriolithography pieces? Could they be used directly as parts ona model? I guess the time and money required with current technology would be prohibitive for one off jobs at the moment. Who knows what might happen in the future. Could it one day make our hands on system redundant? Just design the shape, apply textures and hit print! :eek:

I'm starting to realize that you may become a pretty big company in the future.:)

I'm also still using stereolitography to do my prototypes (I'm speaking about job, not models) and from ages I've this idea too: now is quetly cheap here compare 3-4 years ago due to the big amount of equipment installed, a lot of service, more competition. Another way is "sinterization" (right sell?) similar at SLA but done with tech material (you'll drill, mill, approx same tech. caract.) it's quetly cheaper but rough.

Another way more is what Phil mentioned: 3D printers, really a simple tech compared with SLA, just thin levels of resin for just 18-20.000 bucks :)

Well congrats: super-job.

Fair enough keeping the logo, but make it raised detail rather than engraved - so it can be sanded off easier. :lol:

So just how sturdy are the Steriolithography pieces? Could they be used directly as parts ona model? I guess the time and money required with current technology would be prohibitive for one off jobs at the moment. Who knows what might happen in the future. Could it one day make our hands on system redundant? Just design the shape, apply textures and hit print! :eek:

The material that I'm using is discribed as a ABS equivlant. It is pretty tough stuff. I have thought that it would be much easier to just finish it and add it to my collection as a one off. I don't think they will ever be able to increase the surface finish to the point that hand finishing will not be required. If my logo bothers you that much you could just fill it, it is flush with the bottom surface:p :p :p :p


I'm starting to realize that you may become a pretty big company in the future.

I hope not, I'm sure that would take the fun out of a great hobby. I'm only making models of what I think are great examples of Motorsports that I would like to have in my collection. I'm only making kits available to off set the cost of making my own copy. I have a great regular job that I have no intention of quiting, building 1/1 race cars.


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WOW. Plenty of food for thought on this thread. Lathes are soooo last century :-)

So, is it going on ? photos of progress for my favorite car ?

So, is it going on ? photos of progress for my favorite car ?

Sorry, no it's not. But it has not been forgotten about. It has been placed on hold until I can make room on my plate. There will be more in the future. Maybe something soon.

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i'd definitely rock those SLA machines.

Great...

I have tons of ideas in mind but was never skilled in CATIA to construct a body shell on the computer. But now that I hear the process is about 3500 $ I guess I will have to park these thoughts in the dreams corner.

Suggestion for future projects. A good 1:12 Ford GT40 MKI. I'll be first in line for that one!

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It's quite a daunting task you've undertaken, I know something about building a complete car from scratch, though it's a completely different type of car, It took 5 years in front of a computer off and on for me to complete my design of a dirt late model (an american dirt oval race car), it's 1:24 and has approx 1000 pieces (i'm not sure of the exact number because i haven't counted the engine parts yet), most all photoetched parts (since the cars are largely made of sheet aluminum and flat billett milled parts).... and that took me a very long time to do.. and the part complexity on the cars i'm doing is much simpler then the XJR-14.. so i can't imagine how much time in the cad program it's going to take to model all those parts.. There are a number of parts i'd like to do with SLI myself.. that's something for the future :) keep us posted, i'm extremely interested in your project.
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I realy don't understand what is going on here. I recieved this email letting me know that someone had replied to a thread I started. When I go to the forum I not only can't find my thread until I get to page five, but the post contained in the email above is not even there. I sure wish this site would run a bit smoother. I have had nothing but problems trying to post pictures lately here. There realy is no excuss for it all.

As to an update of the project. Well,,,, there really has been no progress in months. I've been busy finishing renovations on my home and have not had time for modeling.:shakehead :shakehead In an attempt to keep things progressing on the XJR, I "Gave" all the masters I had completed to date to a good friend of mine but he has yet to do anything with them. So If I finish the house before he starts anything with them I will re-aquire them and continue on.

Until then, Thanks for your interest,

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IM, I guess the poster deleted the post afterwards and that's why it's not there.

As for posting pictues, I suggest you use photobucket (or similar) - that works just fine. I see your earlier pictures were hosted directly in the AF gallery and I beleive that they have now suspended this service and that may be the source of your problem.

Hurry up with your house! I'd also love to see some progess on this very unique project :)