DC vs Type R headers for b16a

Someone asked me today if I had looked into getting a type R header for my car. I'm assuming this is going to cost more $$$, how's the performance compare to what DC offers?

Is the type R header 4-2-1?

ok, this might sound like a stupid question, since we pulled the engine from a clip (everything from bumper to dash), maybe I already have a type r header? How do I check this?

not to nag on you, but it sounds really stupid when people say they're getting "headers" for their civic. There is ONE header. you are getting A HEADER not HEADERS.

I don't know what you're talking about... :D :D :D

Maybe he has a V8 in his Civic.

Isn't the b16a a V8?




I'm kidding. Seriously. I know its a V6. :toothless

im 100% sure you dont have a type R header, and unless ur some JDM freak just save ur money and get the DC ones.

i would think that a aftermarket header would flow more than a type r header anyways. crxlvr, you cant be sure he doesnt have a type r header because you dont know who the previous owner was, he may have put one on, unless it was your car that got smashed

you cant be sure he doesnt have a type r header because you dont know who the previous owner was, he may have put one on

right, so how do I check this?

well i only say that cuz not too many peeps will splurge the near $1000 price tag for the headers, but they should have a MUGEN etch into the flange just before the pipes.

I don't think that he was talking about an aftermarket Type-R header, I think he was talking about the OEM header from the JDM Type-R.

I'd go with the JDM R header before most any USDM aftermarket header. Its good 4-1 header design with a 2.5" collector and full SS with SS welds. People see better gains on a B16A with the JDM ITR header then they do with a USDM DC 4-2-1 or whatever. Plus, the DC will rust and shit.

If you want something that is just as cheap as the DC header, but gives really good gains too, ask a competent shop if they can get the JDM DC header with the 2.5" collector. I know a local guy that can get them, but that doesn't help you being in CA. People get pretty good gains with this header, but if you go to it its a good idea to get a 2.5" cat and exhaust too.. (obviously)

OEM header from the JDM Type-R

Yup, you got it.

Anyway, the next 3 mods will be exhaust, header, and cat. So of course I want components that will compliment each other and work well with the b16....

jdmhondaparts.com has the DC b-series header for 380.00. Good price?

suggestions on an exhaust?

$380 sound like a not bad price I guess.. I'm not sure what headers cost in american $, but it shouldn't cost much (if any) more than a USDM DC header. Just ask around.

If you're going 2.5" exhaust you might have to go custom.. I know a couple JDM companys make 2.5" exhausts, but I'm not sure about getting one for our old Civics. :) See if Kakimoto has a website, I know they make a 2.5" for the 99-00 SiR (Si for you americans).

I'm thinking of getting Greddy's MX exhaust - 60mm = 2.36" - my friend told me that +/- .25 " is ok for your header/cat/exhaust set up...

well just to clear some things up,

it would be impossible to get a jdm r header from a front clip unless you had a jdm r front clip or the previous owner put it on. And to tell if you have it or not, just look if doesnt look like it's made of cast iron and it's a 1 piece design.

Secondly the jdm itr header is not ss, yes it's made of steel but it's not stainless steel.

And lastly the jdm dc 4-1 puts out just a tad more hp than the jdm itr 4-1.

My engine came from an integra front clip - the entire clip (bumper to dash) was shipped here from Japan - took about 4 months, worth the wait I guess cuz I got some JDM parts I can sell to offset the cost...

No, that pic the car has the stock exhaust manifold.

I guess I am wrong about the SS.. I thought from looking at one that it looked like SS.. I thought the shop told me it was too. :confused:

Anyway, do you still have parts from that thing? (clip) Like the dash and the steering rack and all that shit? :)

CTR should be ok, ITR headers (I'm an english teacher and I don't give a shit about the grammar of it - "headers" sounds better so to hell with the grammar Nazis :p )... but I'm OT... ok - ITR pipes run from the block into a 2+2 config that will not clear the crossmember in my SiR without cutting into it... I've seen a 4G with the crossmember chopped to fit them - personally, I'd be nervous with that.

I like the DC sports design and know they will fit :)

Anyway, do you still have parts from that thing? (clip) Like the dash and the steering rack and all that shit?

I have the dash, steering wheel, cluster, and climate control from the clip. I'll be unloading this stuff soon since none of it will fit on my car.

crx586, yeah you might've gotten an integra front clip, but it wasn't from a type r, cuz you say you have a b16a, so it was probably an xsi or rsi

Chhuong: You're right, I don't know why this didn't occur to me in the first place!