no more prisons

they are expensive. they are overcrowded. it is satisfying to know people are getting what they deserve. but keeping people in prisons, for their lifetime, really does nothing else for us. Sure prisoners can make lisence plates, but show me a robot that can't do it 10 times faster. Reality TV is waiting and begging for the real violence. What happened in ancient Rome needs to happen now. If the premiere was tonight, i would already have tickets to the box seats.

there really is nothing to lose. and with the revenues from the show, they could build Wal-Mart's for the people of Africa.

have prisoners fight to the death would go against a little thing called the constitution....

So, people who are convicted of tax evasion should die?:screwy:

I agree, make no more prisions. Just stack four or five to a cot.

so, what this boils down to is money > someones life?

just kill'em off to save some cash right?

Keep the prisons for the smaller crimes and stuff that people only get like 10-20 on but for the people that get sentenced to life instead of letting them live in the prison for 40 years costing 100,000 bucks a year just start executing them on television and broadcast it on pay per view and they would make a ton of money and no longer need tax money to run the prisons.

I agree, make no more prisions. Just stack four or five to a cot.
yup, that oughta stop people from going to prison cuz prison is nicer than where they live. prison is a PUNISHMENT. many of the people in there did bad things and need to learn a lesson. we're not providing them with a free, semi-luxurious vacation.

If there's no prisons then these people are walking the streets. How about we abolish the policemen and because that will save money :shakehead Screw the government, let's get rid of that so we don't have to pay any taxes.

Naw, prisons themselves aren't the problem -- it's how we utilize them. It's not the act of keeping a person in prison that costs money (beyond lights, ventilation, and other structure-based utilities) it's what makes up the process of KEEPING them there. Theoretically, you could keep a person in prison for free -- of course, they would eventually die off, so you have to then consider what is reasonable to sustain a life in acceptable conditions.

What "acceptable conditions" means:
- food considered safe for human consumption, and adaquate to maintain reasonable levels of nutrition.
- an environment free of harmful contaminants and deemed sanitary as according to local or federal standards of habitation (there are many people in this country, and many more in the world living in far poorer conditions.)
- access to resources, facilities, work programs, etc. considered appropriate based on the level of infraction (you wouldn't expect a first-timer convicted of tax evasion or petty theft to be locked up in solitary confinement for 23 hours a day.)
- and, of course, proper incarceration according to the crime committed (you WOULD expect someone convicted of first-degree murder or another capital crime to be locked in solitary for 20+hours a day.)


What "acceptable conditions" should NOT mean:
- access to HBO, Cinemax, satellite or other premium television/entertainment packages (if I can get by just fine with the "basic cable" package, so can they -- you don't need 100+ channels to get the news.)
- full fitness/health centers where some violent offender can come to play and build himself up so he's that much stronger and more aggressive when parole time comes around (nevermind the fact that I have to pay 400 bucks a year for gym access -- why the f*** should they get it free?)
- special meals and specific meal requests. If "slop on a slice of generic white bread" provides a reasonable level of nutrients with which to subsist on, then slop away!
- access to a plethora of free education services. Library facilities available for use by eligible inmates is one thing, a goddamn state funded masters-degree program is another thing entirely.
- anything more than VERY BASIC healthcare services. I'm talking a bandaid for a cut or a splint for a sprain. Any needed medical attention greater than that, and it should be put on a tab, and deducted from the inmate's wages upon release (or their wages from a prison-run work program if the inmate is involved in one of those -- why should the state have to absorb medical services rendered on a drug dealer who broke his arm in three places playing B-ball in the exercise yard?) Anything else should be easily taken care of within the bounds of the system and a budget (which would be a lot lower if the above recommendations were followed.)


In addition to the above guidelines, the system responsible for sentencing people needs to be overhauled. If you're caught with an ounce of Pot, you shouldn't be doing jailtime -- simple as that. Now, if you're caught in the midst of cooking up a nice big batch of meth in your basement, that's a different story. The fact is, prisons wouldn't be so overcrowded and so burdensome on the taxpayers if they were actually managed properly. :2cents:

yup, that oughta stop people from going to prison cuz prison is nicer than where they live. prison is a PUNISHMENT. many of the people in there did bad things and need to learn a lesson. we're not providing them with a free, semi-luxurious vacation.

Just a question.. have you ever been to a REAL prison? Not one in the movies.. :slap:

Anybody ever watched Running Man? Same thing we're talking about. Making a game show out of the deaths of prisoners. The thing is in the movie when they ran out of prisoners they'd make up stories for people with small crimes so they'd have somebody to kill for the week.

oh man, i remeber running man, when i stayed in america a while back. that was so cool...

so, what this boils down to is money > someones life?

just kill'em off to save some cash right?

Good idea! Lets start with the prisoners and then move onto the welfare deadbeats.

Good idea! Lets start with the prisoners and then move onto the welfare deadbeats.



I'm sorry Yogs but statements implying the killing of people so you can save on taxes are in very poor taste, even as a joke.

And for everyone else, if you would prefer to live under a regime that does not waste tax money on prisons or trials for that matter may I suggest North Korea. I hear they are quite fond of sumarry executions over there.

Or as an alternative, if prisons are those exalted vacation resorts, why not go to one. Its not very hard to get accepted.

send them all to komodo island, hey circle of life

For people of our stature, prison of course is no cake walk, but for the homeless it's a lot better for them. Of course, they commit a crime, get arrested, and they're no longer homeless.

Now, not saying this isn't helping the homeless get off the street, but isn't it terrible that homeles rather get arrested and serve jail time than spend it on the streets? Despite the fact they have freedom on the outside, freedom to do what? most can ask.

Yeah sure, Gladiators for the 21st century would be awesome and I love how someone said it goes againist the constitution 'cause apparently every nation has the same one, but despite that mistake, sure, why not?

'Cause it would turn into something more and as if the whole world politically doesn't hate us enough, let's start up killer games. Now, the Brits had a good idea, but look at it now. Those prisoners civilized into a alligator wrestling, boomerang throwing weirdos that would only later on take controlof an awesome forum and rule it with an iron fist.

And island prison, something highly remote. Of course i dont want to get into specific details, like what crimes go and where etc, but in general, an island prison. Lord of the Flies the real life.

i hope someone reads here...

How about we take away the inmates creature comforts, like weights and cable tv. Limit there reading to self help books, cooking books, and books with Fabio on the cover.

And bread and water only. Turkey and dressing will be a gift on Thanksgiving and Christmas. Allow all gangs that despise each other to be left inside the walls of 20ft X 20ft courtyard. They will fight to the death. And since they enjoy killing each other with guns on the streets so much they can all have a gun with 2 bullets each. No one comes out alive. Then you send in the canibals into clean up the mess. Seriously just have them go fist to fist until they beat each other to death. The last one left standing will live to fight another day.

i'd say just put some cameras in the current prisons and videotape that, there are enough prisoners getting killed around the clock to make a once a week show.

but i agree that prisons are too comfortable. they dont need cable tv, weights, excercise rooms, good meals, universities, or basketball. i'd say give them trade education, something that they'd have to pay for with work done in the pennitentiary, so they can come out with a diploma and stay out of prison. but this would have to be a priviledge for good behavior. i think the prisons should be separated, good prisoners together and bad prisoners togeher so that the good ones will have a better opportunity of staying out of prison.

their basic needs should be taken care of, they shold have the ability to do SOME work as a reward for good behavior and education should be a reward, nothing more. they should also be able to have outdoor excercise like running in the courtyard, pushups, etc, but nothing expensive.

and as for th island idea, they tried it and look how australia turned out, they talk all funny and are no match for the great northern country of canada.

Rapists and pedophies don't deserve as good as prison, we all agree to that right?

How many people on here have actually even seen a prison not just the out side but the inside? I work at a maximum and a minimum prison. Prison is no fun. Max for example you have your population inmates. the get to inter act with other in mates in a room called a day hall all they can do there is watch tv (3-4 channels) 2 which are news, cards, or read. They can go exercise for 1 1/2hrs at most a day. The only other time out of there cell is for chow (food). If they are lucky they ask to work so they can clean areas of the prison under constant supervision. max guys get out a tottal of about 10hrs if they work.
AD seg/ Dis seg inmates are on lock down 22-23 hrs a day they eat in there cells, get handcuffed w/leg irons to be escourted out side to yard. Hand cuffs are taken off and they are locked into a 6x8 seperate man cells to exercise for 1hr. If they are lucky right after yard they will get a shower (10min).
Minimum inmates are a luckier but you still wouldnt want to be one. They are out of there 3-10 man cells from 6am-10pm wk days and 6am-1am on wk ends. It is mandatory that they have a job some 10-20 are close enough to release so they will get a work release job (outside of the prison walls). All inmates have to strip naked when they leave or come back from work (make sure no contraband is taken out or brought in). They have tv 6 channels tottal 2 sports, (not hbo/show time)1 movie channel, and the rest are news. Other than that they can go outside to play basketball/work out play cards or have a garden. For those people who think prison is easy its not. I just work there and i come home and wake up stressed out alot off times prison hase a 85% turn over rate for correctional officers because it is a very stressful job.

so basicly it's better than my boarding school lol. jk, but i agree that it's not hard, but it's expensive, if they were to cut down on costs by reducing some of the stuff, they could save alot of money. do the prisoners get money when they work? i think that money should go towards paying for their time in prison, it can't be considered slave labor if they're paying off debt.

slammed scion, why have you decided to bring back this old thread? Someone lock this.

Thread more than three months old brought back = 4 years in prison + $50,000 fine.