jetta 1.8t VS Element

This wasnt so much of a race as it was me playing around, but i thought I should post it anyways.

I'm Driving with my g/f in the car and we are heading over with Musashi towards Pizza Hut, when an Element comes flying by and sticks his arm out with his fingers in a peace signs as to say "see ya!" I didnt think much of it till my g/f told me she thinks he was trying to race me. We get to a red lights and when it turns green the guy takes off. I start normally and give the element a 5 car lead.

I slam on the gas and shift to 2nd, I shift at 6500 to go into 3rd and I'm going about 75 to 80. I shift to 4th and I get next to the guy and we are both going 120. I laugh as I shift to 5th and put my nose ahead of him and backed off. There was no point to continue cause I already beat him. We got to the next light and it was red but the guy ran it, I guess he felt stupid and didnt want to be next to me.

That wassnt even a race though. It was more like you reminding a guy in an Element that he was in and Element!

Gotta tell ya though you took off like G that time despit the three peoples in your car. GO 11's! :iceslolan

Yah, gotta remind those box on wheels drivers that they're still in an ugly box on wheels even with a H symbol on it... LOL

Gotian, hearing about your Jetta really makes me wish my wife would keep her Passat 1.8t. The price of high octane is rediculous but the vehicle is paid for and obviously has tons of potential if one is so inclined to unleash it... which she obviously isn't...

Yah, gotta remind those box on wheels drivers that they're still in an ugly box on wheels even with a H symbol on it... LOL

Gotian, hearing about your Jetta really makes me wish my wife would keep her Passat 1.8t. The price of high octane is rediculous but the vehicle is paid for and obviously has tons of potential if one is so inclined to unleash it... which she obviously isn't...

lol that's kinda harsh... but the passats are too heavy and big compared to the jetta so you feel the power a bit different, I don't like em personally.

And I said it wasnt much of a race just something fun i thought i would put up

You think that was fun? fun was watching you give him a mile lead and then owning him hard! Me and Brandon where laughing our asses off. :rofl:

I need to visit Florida so I can watch all the ricers get pwned... myself included... LOL I like hearing about how the Jetta smokes these other cars that try to race you. Do you have any mods that are attracting these victims? Like blingy rims or exhaust?

BTW, the Passat is the wife's turtle, not mine... and yeah, they're big and heavy so boost is felt a bit differently.

I need to visit Florida so I can watch all the ricers get pwned... myself included... LOL I like hearing about how the Jetta smokes these other cars that try to race you. Do you have any mods that are attracting these victims? Like blingy rims or exhaust?

BTW, the Passat is the wife's turtle, not mine... and yeah, they're big and heavy so boost is felt a bit differently.

That's the thing, IT'S BECAUSE I HAVE NOTHING I LOOK LIKE AN EASY KILL. But there are times that the people see the decals that we put on the car for our team that makes people wanna race me.

Sounds like fun. I find it funny when people drive SUV's (if you can call an element that?) like ricers. Good kill.

I'm actually surprised the Element went to 120. The drag on that car has to be considerable and not to mention the lack of power.

well....good ...kill? well owning sounds sweet but i dont mean to rag but (i didnt see u put a speed limit in there but i just glanced through it... 120?! thats like at least 50 over in a 70 .... soo was the risk of getting a freakin huge ticket/mayb losing ur license worth the owning of a stupid box just to put it in place.... and the risk of hurting 3 people in ur car if u got in an accident( dont mean this in any bad way just asking u the question) but mayb you should wait until u get some real competition to take a risk worth the race....... imho.....

well....good ...kill? well owning sounds sweet but i dont mean to rag but (i didnt see u put a speed limit in there but i just glanced through it... 120?! thats like at least 50 over in a 70 .... soo was the risk of getting a freakin huge ticket/mayb losing ur license worth the owning of a stupid box just to put it in place.... and the risk of hurting 3 people in ur car if u got in an accident( dont mean this in any bad way just asking u the question) but mayb you should wait until u get some real competition to take a risk worth the race....... imho.....

yes, yes it was

oh and there was absolutly no one besides us on the street.

A little off topic: Gotian, since you raced Musashi in his last car you should do the same with this. Go from an even start and then with you at a pre-determined distance ahead of him. Yeah....:naughty: .........no? :dunno:

well....good ...kill? well owning sounds sweet but i dont mean to rag but (i didnt see u put a speed limit in there but i just glanced through it... 120?! thats like at least 50 over in a 70 .... soo was the risk of getting a freakin huge ticket/mayb losing ur license worth the owning of a stupid box just to put it in place.... and the risk of hurting 3 people in ur car if u got in an accident( dont mean this in any bad way just asking u the question) but mayb you should wait until u get some real competition to take a risk worth the race....... imho.....

Dude. you gotta understand, This is Miami....we've been caught doing 120 mph before and its really no big deal. the avarge speed in a ressidential here is 70mph despite the legal limit being 30! Everyone drives fuken fast!
You get pulled over you get a ticket, you pay 80 bucks and it gets dropped! Our judicial system is so stuffed up with court cases that things like these get dropped daily.
People dont walk in this city, people dont cross the street, people dont even go near the street so its almost impossible to hit someone!
Cant really say he was risking the lives of the people in the car cause he knows how to drive, for pete's sake the man out drives guys in all seven classes above him. and to top it off his car is fast so it can accelerate to 120 and back down to 70 in a few blocks distance. the street was empty, we know the territory, no cops around, and his fast told him too....yes Id say it was worth it.

A little off topic: Gotian, since you raced Musashi in his last car you should do the same with this. Go from an even start and then with you at a pre-determined distance ahead of him. Yeah....:naughty: .........no? :dunno:
are you kidding me, he not only raced me, he smoked me in the 3KGT and stole my thunder....come to think of it if he haddnt raced me id still be driving the 3000GT. That race shook my confidence a little and opened my eyes, like Redneck said "time to step up your game" so I did.
and hell yes we are gonna race again!

GTO!

thanks for putting me in my place mushash i deserved it .. i kno well basically nothing about miami but i kno in michigan if u got caught doin 120 its like a get the fuck outta the car ur fucking crazy ur going to jail shit.... but thats pretty sweet... i def. wanna move to miami one day now :D .......i never implied he was a bad driver but u never know when a car might come outta nowhere and u have to swerve at a high speed or something could happen u kno, i just meant in generall traveling at 120 mph does alotta damage .... especially in a jetta...(or at least i would assume bc its kinda a small car) but u get wat im sayin

thanks for putting me in my place mushash i deserved it .. i kno well basically nothing about miami but i kno in michigan if u got caught doin 120 its like a get the fuck outta the car ur fucking crazy ur going to jail shit.... but thats pretty sweet... i def. wanna move to miami one day now :D .......i never implied he was a bad driver but u never know when a car might come outta nowhere and u have to swerve at a high speed or something could happen u kno, i just meant in generall traveling at 120 mph does alotta damage .... especially in a jetta...(or at least i would assume bc its kinda a small car) but u get wat im sayin

I get what your saying but there was no where for any cars to come out of, it was a stright road with no entry or exit points.

Oh and if i raced musashi right now it wouldnt be fair, I'd win since he cant go over 4k rpms! j/k

I'm giving the car to my g/f soon so I can get the car I'm supposed to have.

I get what your saying but there was no where for any cars to come out of, it was a stright road with no entry or exit points.

Oh and if i raced musashi right now it wouldnt be fair, I'd win since he cant go over 4k rpms! j/k

I'm giving the car to my g/f soon so I can get the car I'm supposed to have.

Finally getting that Geo Metro eh'?:p

Finally getting that Geo Metro eh'?:p

Hell yeah, I be pimping it out in the metro, running high 20's!

Oh no Sports, buddy, I wassnt "putting you in your place"!
I was just explaining it. I got a rough way of saying things thats all....lately its been getting me in trouble....sorry if I sounded loud, I was just explaining it.

Musashi is one tough lovin son-of-a biatch. He gets it from his very own nastiness...Rocker.

I actually have a hard time believing an Element can reach 120. Maybe falling off a cliff it could.

I actually have a hard time believing an Element can reach 120. Maybe falling off a cliff it could.

What's so hard to believe about that? The only thing that would make it difficult is the fact that it has the aerodynamics of a brick. But 160HP is enough to hit 120 or so.....

you guys read it wrong, i didnt say the element went 120 i said i did and then shut down, if the element was going 120 i wouldve needed to be going faster in order to catch up to it and then pass it

you guys read it wrong, i didnt say the element went 120 i said i did and then shut down, if the element was going 120 i wouldve needed to be going faster in order to catch up to it and then pass it

Whatever, you just raced him because you were jealous of his lunchbox-like vehicle.

Element > V Dub

Whatever, you just raced him because you were jealous of his lunchbox-like vehicle.

Element > V Dub

hell yeah, you kow how many fruit roll ups you can hold in that thing!

hell yeah, you kow how many fruit roll ups you can hold in that thing!

That's hilarious! Did you know there is a place for keeping your bologna sandwiches cool too? Also, there is the crumb friendly floor system that allows for easy clean up...

just open up the trunk and the side door, take out the back seat, and use the water hose to clean it out....lunchbox typre car to me...

If you played Tetris with cars... the Element would be the Square.

If you played Tetris with cars... the Element would be the Square.

What about the Scion XB? And I have a question for you guys. Which would you rather have? Honda Element or Pontiac Aztec?

What about the Scion XB? And I have a question for you guys. Which would you rather have? Honda Element or Pontiac Aztec?

Honda Element. I at least know it'll last more than 10 years. And somehow, it'll retain some form of resale value.


Scion XB... meh... it can substitute I guess for the Element... but I really had my heart set on the Element... :frown:

Stop knocking on the Element. Its not that bad of a car. Hell, James May thinks its cool.








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James May thinks its cool...





















Continue bashing.

:lol:

James May thinks its cool...

Umm, yeah. . . . :iceslolan

Well the Pontiac Aztec is comming back you know. Pontiac sold the design to Dodge and Dodge is gonna re-release it in late 2006/early 2007. Its changed a bit but you can still tell its an Aztec. its gonna be called the Caliber SRT-4!

^^ Thats the Aztec? I saw a pic of the Caliber SRT-4 and it looked smaller than the Aztec. Not to mention you couldnt get it with 4wd like the Aztec. Never the less i heard it was supposed to be a high 13 second car.

He's joking...

I think the Caliber SRT-4 isn't that bad looking. I think it's better looking than the last SRT-4 based off the Neon...

He's joking...

I think the Caliber SRT-4 isn't that bad looking. I think it's better looking than the last SRT-4 based off the Neon...

I like the looks of it as far as SUV's go. What is that thing gonna weigh? Anybody know?

I like how in the Dodge Caliber commercial the guy is accelerating through traffic and it sounds like he's got a big V8 under the hood instead of the 2.4L 4cyl. You could also add the 350Z commercial to that list where the guy is buzzing around town and it sounds like a loud V8.

I like how in the Dodge Caliber commercial the guy is accelerating through traffic and it sounds like he's got a big V8 under the hood instead of the 2.4L 4cyl.

There are already commericals for it? Damn, I need to watch more TV.

And commercials are always like that. I saw a Civic commerical a while back and the car sounded like a V8 car. When in reality both the SRT-4 and the Civic sound like a hive of bees.

There are already commericals for it? Damn, I need to watch more TV.

And commercials are always like that. I saw a Civic commerical a while back and the car sounded like a V8 car. When in reality both the SRT-4 and the Civic sound like a hive of bees.

Actually, SRT-4's have a very deep sound to them... being a large 4 cylinder at 2.4 liters, and being turbocharged they're muffled a bit.

Actually, SRT-4's have a very deep sound to them... being a large 4 cylinder at 2.4 liters, and being turbocharged they're muffled a bit.

Bah, the one I drove must have had aftermarket exhaust then. It sounded like a big bag of ass.

i think the caliber srt4 is supposed to weigh around 3200 lbs.

i think the caliber srt4 is supposed to weigh around 3200 lbs.

With 300HP & 260TQ

And its supposed to mop the floor against the old SRT(Will see About that when it comes out and I Run one) also comes with a 6 speed Getrag tranny.

dodge kept the 2.4L from the neon but instead of the iron block motor they are using an aluminum block. but the motor looks exsactly the same

Bah, the one I drove must have had aftermarket exhaust then. It sounded like a big bag of ass.

Sounds like someone put a crap straight-through muffler on it. Stock they have a nice deep burble.

I had my first Caliber sighting today on the street. The thing is way smaller than a Aztec. I'm sorry Musashi but that cant have any association with the Aztec. Please prove me wrong.

^ I was kidding bro. I was just making fun of how fuggly that thing is. I think dodge let it go to thier heads that they could sell so many SRT-4 neons that they figured anything with the SRT-4 badge would sell. Well there you have it! a mini SUV/minivan with a 2.4 liter turbo engine. :shakehead

Drifty, Car and Driver already tested the Caliber SRT-4. Its got a 0-60 of 5.5 seconds and a 1/4 mile of 14.1.
Its 200 pounds heavier then yours and only makes 10 foot pounds of torque more??? the HP says 300 but this time its at the crank so the wheel hp is like 250-260. They really just got lazy with it and barley upgraded anything.
Your superb driving skills and that SRT of yours should be able to make short work of them, no worries mate.

You wanna know the funniest part? the reason that the SRT development engineers gave for why they kept it FWD instad of making it AWD like they initially announced. They said that "300 horse power was way too much for the drive system to handle"......Riiiiaggghttt! and so the STI and the EVO are alien technology cause they sure as hell can handle it! :rofl:

Caliber SRT-4 = alot of guys that are gonna get tricked into buying a minivan :evillol:

AWD cant handle 300hp? Like you said look at the evo, STi, 3kgt VR4, Skyline, etc, etc.

I guess the Dodge engineers have never heard of those cars!
Look thier other vehicles. The SRT-10 Viper makes less WHP then a Z06 Vette and it costs 20 grand more. The rams are all slow ass trucks and get thier asses handed to em by Chevy and Nissan pickups.
the Hemi Charger and 300C are a joke! and thier Flagship the SRT-8 Charger.....well what more can I say about it.....just look at my sig!

GTO!

I actually like the 300c. I've driven one numerous times and its a fun comfortable ride. Not really meant to be a sports car though. And as for the Viper, I would still take it over the Vette because it looks 10x cooler, far more rare, and of course in the end, there is no replacement for displacement.


VIPER! :icon16:

If you really want to get down to it lets just look at the Lingenfelter and the Hennessy 1000 Venom. Each with a 0-60 time of under 2 seconds! And run a breath taking 9.7 1/4 mile bone stock.

Hennessy Venom 1000:

http://www.tuningnews.net/news/051101b/hennessey-srt-10-viper-venom-1000-01.jpg

Lingenfelter:

http://www.rsportscars.com/foto/10/lftturbo05_01.jpg

I guess the Dodge engineers have never heard of those cars!
Look thier other vehicles. The SRT-10 Viper makes less WHP then a Z06 Vette and it costs 20 grand more. The rams are all slow ass trucks and get thier asses handed to em by Chevy and Nissan pickups.
the Hemi Charger and 300C are a joke! and thier Flagship the SRT-8 Charger.....well what more can I say about it.....just look at my sig!

GTO!

I thought the srt-8 was faster then the GTO

If you really want to get down to it lets just look at the Lingenfelter and the Hennessy 1000 Venom. Each with a 0-60 time of under 2 seconds! And run a breath taking 9.7 1/4 mile bone stock.

...How can a heavily modified car run a 9 second 1/4 stock?

...How can a heavily modified car run a 9 second 1/4 stock?

haha I was thinking that too... they aren't.... stock. At all.

^^ Its sold like that. Its kind of like a 'special edition". Thats why its considered stock. Yeah it is a modifed Viper and Vette but there were a number of them modified by professionals for sales. Kind of like a Saleen Mustang.

well what more can I say about it.....just look at my sig!




........ yeahhh.

I guess the Dodge engineers have never heard of those cars!
Look thier other vehicles. The SRT-10 Viper makes less WHP then a Z06 Vette and it costs 20 grand more. The rams are all slow ass trucks and get thier asses handed to em by Chevy and Nissan pickups.
the Hemi Charger and 300C are a joke! and thier Flagship the SRT-8 Charger.....well what more can I say about it.....just look at my sig!

GTO!


I think the SRT-8 charger and the LS2 GTO are pretty equal performance-wise...

........ yeahhh.
Whats up Matty? you gonna back up your east-coast bro? *does the gangsta lean and shows you his grills*

I thought the srt-8 was faster then the GTO

Well to put it in one word. NO! the GTO is the faster car....but only by meer fractions. In the street it would be a driver's race and since I cant drive worth a crap and the SRT-8 only comes in auto then I would probably loose.
Still I can brag about the fact that magazines have tested them side by side and the GTO is faster.

Charger SRT-8 :
0-60 = 5.0 sec
0-100 = 11.9 sec
1/4 mile = 13.5 sec @ 106.3 mph


GTO 6-speed:
0-60 = 4.7 sec
0-100 = 11.7 sec
1/4 mile = 13.3 sec @ 105.9 mph

You wanna know the funniest part? the reason that the SRT development engineers gave for why they kept it FWD instad of making it AWD like they initially announced. They said that "300 horse power was way too much for the drive system to handle"......Riiiiaggghttt!:

:grinno: :banghead:

how stupid can they get:screwy:

in dodge's defense, the caliber srt4 isn't going to be AWD because the AWD system from the regular caliber can't handle the power of the turbo 2.4. why they can't just design another AWD system however, i don't know

Keep costs down.

Because performance isnt one of thier priorities?

Man there is a lot of Element haters on here. I don't know about 120 mph but I've had mine at 110 and it gets a little jittery with the little ass tires they come with.