Supercharger/2003 Celica
TRD300EX14
07-15-2002, 08:33 AM
Does anyone know anything yet about the TRD Supercharger or Blitz Supercharger for the Celica? I think the TRD comes out in January, but I'm not sure. Anyone know the amount of hp gain with one? And to let everyone know, the 2003 Celica has a refreshened front end and interior and has an added 20-30 hp to the motor. Sweet huh?
old man celica
07-15-2002, 01:11 PM
if only they would make the celica rear wheel drive again...
TRD300EX14
07-15-2002, 08:48 PM
That's what I want. I would want it to be a real wheel drive, 200 something hp street machine. Only downside to FR is that the backend can slip out in the rain and snow. FF won't do that. And for the 2003 model, I was now told it has an added 10 hp, which is bullcrap because it won't make much difference. They should make it 210 or 215, then add a supercharger. Probably get 315 or so. Sweet.
Tx685
07-16-2002, 12:23 AM
They should make a TRD Supercharger/Turbocharger for the 92-96 camry v6.
Polygon
07-16-2002, 01:35 AM
Do you have a site showing this? As far as I can find they show the same engine specs for the 2003 model year.
old man celica
07-16-2002, 12:50 PM
if u look at toyota rite now they have no serious performance oriented vehicles out, and with the GM killing the best camaro/firebird they ever made and with the new upcoming domestic ford Lightning vs. chevy silerado SS vs. Dodges Viper powered Ram Srt-10 battle, they will be kept busy. thats when toyota should make a new rear wheel drive platform and either drop a turbocharged inline 4 or a v6, it will give pple a cheaper alternative to the new almighty 03 Cobra being a supercharged v8 2door (which is insurance company enemy number one). it will also be a better choice than the new 350z which is only a 2 seater and an alternate choice to the mazda rx8 . seriously the sport coupes of this era are for the most part torqueless econo boxes, im frustrated when the "better" trims like the gts or type S are marketed on horsepower numbers while the torque they put out are equal to their baseline counterparts and come at a higher rpm than their lower models.
just put in a little more torgue in the light wieght sport coupe make it rear drive and u have a better platform to work on than all the other sport coupes as well as heavy mustang GT's (cuz cmon v6 mustangs are driven by gurls...and some import drivers think its a big deal beating a v6)
just put in a little more torgue in the light wieght sport coupe make it rear drive and u have a better platform to work on than all the other sport coupes as well as heavy mustang GT's (cuz cmon v6 mustangs are driven by gurls...and some import drivers think its a big deal beating a v6)
Gravitom
07-16-2002, 01:02 PM
Toyota has to have something up their sleeve. They have recently gotten into F1 which is a good 100 million buck investment, they have more liquid assets than any other car manufacturer and they are notoriously tight-lipped about new models. If you spend millions on the most intense racing league on the planet, you have to be releasing a few sports cars.
Rumors about the $100k 5000GT have been around for quite sometime. A 400+ hp supercar with its sights set on Ferrari and Porsche. That may or not go into production but that isn't exactly going to make enough profit to justify their investment in F1. The Celica is a nice sport-compact but is NOT a sportscar and the MR2 is looking like it might get pulled. So Toyota, (who is looking to capture younger buyers) could be working on a $30k rear wheel drive sports car to take on the 350z and RX8 which may or may not be the Supra. It would be very Toyota like to sit back and see what the competition makes and try to match or beat it. They tried to do that with the Celica. It was supposed to take a chunk of the sport-compact racers from Honda but it really didn't succeed IMO (due to lack of aftermarket support).
So Toyota really needs to come out with some kind of sports car between the Celica and the 5000GT. And Toyota knows much more about the car industry than me so I'm willing to bet they are working on something. I just pray it isn't badged a Scion
Rumors about the $100k 5000GT have been around for quite sometime. A 400+ hp supercar with its sights set on Ferrari and Porsche. That may or not go into production but that isn't exactly going to make enough profit to justify their investment in F1. The Celica is a nice sport-compact but is NOT a sportscar and the MR2 is looking like it might get pulled. So Toyota, (who is looking to capture younger buyers) could be working on a $30k rear wheel drive sports car to take on the 350z and RX8 which may or may not be the Supra. It would be very Toyota like to sit back and see what the competition makes and try to match or beat it. They tried to do that with the Celica. It was supposed to take a chunk of the sport-compact racers from Honda but it really didn't succeed IMO (due to lack of aftermarket support).
So Toyota really needs to come out with some kind of sports car between the Celica and the 5000GT. And Toyota knows much more about the car industry than me so I'm willing to bet they are working on something. I just pray it isn't badged a Scion
old man celica
07-16-2002, 02:21 PM
so there seems to be hope for toyota enthusiasts...how long before u think they will unveil it? or u think they have been working on it, cuz it takes years to come up with a car...
Gravitom
07-16-2002, 03:34 PM
Your guess is as good as mine. Considering they started working on their F1 team 3 years ago, I would assume they started designing new sportscars before then. I'm not sure how long a Toyota design cycle is but I would guess 4-5 years. But Toyota usually just pulls new products out of nowhere and then they are available in a few months (unlike other manufacturers who hype their shit for years). So it wouldn't surprise me if they made an announcement tomorrow. All we can do is wait.
Tx685
07-16-2002, 04:23 PM
Toyota needs some help in there aftermarket parts this pisses me off because the Toyota Camry is a sedan right but with not much aftermarket parts!!:mad: Then how come the Honda Accord has way more aftermarket parts than the camry and both of these cars are in the same class!!!!:mad:
Gravitom
07-16-2002, 04:43 PM
I have no idea why Toyota has such shitty aftermarket support compared to Honda. I'm sure there is a logical reason for it, maybe one of the Honda tuner people can shed some light on the subject.
TRD300EX14
07-16-2002, 08:13 PM
I know what you guys are talking about, there really isn't that much aftermarket products for any Toyota vehicles. I really don't know why. The celica and supra are about the only cars that have the most and actually have some. Toyota build cars for old people. Honda just sit there, build a car not concerned with what it has and sell it cheap. That is why Honda sucks. Toyota take time and effort to really overcome obstacles in the automotive industry. They design their cars so they look and feel awesome. Every year, each car they update is better. Like the new Camry and Corolla and now the totally new 4Runner. All built differently. Aftermarktet brands just don't get invovled with Toyota for some reason. But, if you look around, you'll see that Toyota isn't the biggest engine building manufacturer. Most of the cars have small engines that are reliable, which should give them the reason to build bigger motors for the cars. I won't get a celica if they have no supercharger. The fact that the motor is small makes me not want it. I don't want to be left in the dust. The market is out for bigger and better motors in cars now. Aftermarket manufacturers probably don't get into Toyota because #1. the buyers of Toyota are older people in like 30-80 age range. There are so few young, that's why they are aiming for them. The Scion thing I don't know how it is gonna go. I think these cars are for the cheap kids who just want something that already has a stereo system in it and stuff like that. Personally, it's better to choose what brands of products you want for your car. If Toyota wants the young buyers, They should start looking at what other manufacturers do to get them, such as price and looks, plus features. That is what kids want these days. Extending the models they make will result in tremendous sales if they successfully design the right car for you.
old man celica
07-17-2002, 12:54 PM
the lack of toyota aftermarket is in my opinion linked to the demand of aftermarket from the public, i mean new platforms such as the wrx, rsx and even the hyundai tiburon are gaining lots of after market from the young pple buying and wanting to modify them. toyota is kind of hinting at attracting some of the young pple who would tune their cars with the action package, but when the majority of the people see there is a lack of aftermarket they have plenty of other cars to choose from. I think if like the tiburon, toyota comes out with a very strong tunable engine thats turbo friendly (11:5 compression is very not friendly) they will have more aftermarket support. like the supra which has dozens of aftermarket parts, they have to make a great platfrom for aftermarket
then they will have the next "big thing". crossing ma fingers since in a couple of years ill have enough saved to buy a decent 30k sport coupe, but then hey theres always the almighty 03 svt Cobra....
then they will have the next "big thing". crossing ma fingers since in a couple of years ill have enough saved to buy a decent 30k sport coupe, but then hey theres always the almighty 03 svt Cobra....
Screamer
07-17-2002, 03:15 PM
It has no aftermarket because it is a Camry. The Accords have some shape and style to work with in a Coupe. The Camry is just a Camry. If any Sedan needs an aftermarket its a Maxima.
Oh and by the way. I dont know who has seen this before but check it out.
"Toyota is planning to launch a new exotica into the supercar market as early as next year, in time for the company's arrival into the Formula 1 scene. The sharp-edged coupe will do battle against top supercar names, including Ferrari and Aston Martin. The power will be provided by a 4.3 litre V8 from the Lexus GS/LS430 saloons, but with 400 bhp of power.
Power would be fed to the rear-wheels through a six-speed manual gearbox, although engineers are working on a development of the sequential-style system from the MR2. The new supercar from Toyota will replace the ageing Supra, which started production in 1991, it will also be one of the most driver-oriented car ever to come out from Japan. "
0 to 60 in 4.5 sec (est)
Top Speed 180mph (est)
http://www.online-supercars.com/supercars/images/big/toyota_supercar.jpg
Oh and by the way. I dont know who has seen this before but check it out.
"Toyota is planning to launch a new exotica into the supercar market as early as next year, in time for the company's arrival into the Formula 1 scene. The sharp-edged coupe will do battle against top supercar names, including Ferrari and Aston Martin. The power will be provided by a 4.3 litre V8 from the Lexus GS/LS430 saloons, but with 400 bhp of power.
Power would be fed to the rear-wheels through a six-speed manual gearbox, although engineers are working on a development of the sequential-style system from the MR2. The new supercar from Toyota will replace the ageing Supra, which started production in 1991, it will also be one of the most driver-oriented car ever to come out from Japan. "
0 to 60 in 4.5 sec (est)
Top Speed 180mph (est)
http://www.online-supercars.com/supercars/images/big/toyota_supercar.jpg
Gravitom
07-17-2002, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by Screamer
It has no aftermarket because it is a Camry. The Accords have some shape and style to work with in a Coupe. The Camry is just a Camry. If any Sedan needs an aftermarket its a Maxima.
Oh and by the way. I dont know who has seen this before but check it out.
http://www.online-supercars.com/supercars/images/big/toyota_supercar.jpg
That is really old news and that pic is a photoshop from a Japanese auto mag. Since then the engine sized moved up to a 4.5L and then a 5L and is supposed to be called the 5000GT (not after the Mitsu, after the 1967 Toyota 2000GT). But that is all rumors.
And the camry not having "style" being its reason for little aftermarket support is pretty nonsensical considering the other cars that have plenty of aftermarket support. The majority of nonbiased people believe the Celica is better looking than the RSX but the RSX has tons more aftermarket support and it came out a year later.
It has no aftermarket because it is a Camry. The Accords have some shape and style to work with in a Coupe. The Camry is just a Camry. If any Sedan needs an aftermarket its a Maxima.
Oh and by the way. I dont know who has seen this before but check it out.
http://www.online-supercars.com/supercars/images/big/toyota_supercar.jpg
That is really old news and that pic is a photoshop from a Japanese auto mag. Since then the engine sized moved up to a 4.5L and then a 5L and is supposed to be called the 5000GT (not after the Mitsu, after the 1967 Toyota 2000GT). But that is all rumors.
And the camry not having "style" being its reason for little aftermarket support is pretty nonsensical considering the other cars that have plenty of aftermarket support. The majority of nonbiased people believe the Celica is better looking than the RSX but the RSX has tons more aftermarket support and it came out a year later.
old man celica
07-18-2002, 01:16 PM
most the people with camrys tend to be older and are not interested in modifying their car. so aftermarket companys wouldnt make expenisve performance parts for them. do wut im doin rite now man, dont do anything to the car (ur parents car? im guessing...cuz i wouldnt think you told them u wanted a camry...) and later when u get a good platform to work with then u throw down the big bucks. cuz cmon as normal hard working pple i think we can all agree we want the biggest bang for the buck...and with the 310 hp $23k camaro z28 gone , the title of biggest bang for the buck is up for grabs to anyone, probably the new cobra, but i would get the nex best thing man...
Gravitom
07-18-2002, 01:38 PM
Pure straightline speed I agree with the Cobra being your best bang for the buck. Overall Package I say the 350z, handling I would say the Miata. Depends on what you are looking for.
Tx685
07-18-2002, 02:21 PM
Well my dad gave me his camry so I can keep it because he got a new 2002 Jeep Charokee. Well least I got a car for free. In the future time I will trade it or sell it. Is it good to sell camry? Will people like them?
Gravitom
07-18-2002, 02:44 PM
Camrys have excellent resale value, check www.kbb.com
old man celica
07-19-2002, 12:08 AM
dude man i cant believe u think the mustangs were made to be straight line cars... cmon they were also made for the road. this nex mustang along withn the other roush mustangs were made for road racing in mind. svt really did it this time combining all the things they learned over the years, like adding more power due to the weight of the car in turns, from back breather super/c inspirsed by the lightning, they took the suspension team from the svt focus, they used 17 inch rims when they could have had 18 inch rims just cuz the 17s would handle better on the road, the rear of the suspension is more meant for road racing and is really not too drag friendly....im serious man when ur lookin for the best overall performance oriented powerful and nice handling car, the total package in terms of practicality (4 seats) and looks (i think this current model is kinda old and shoe boxy, but all the gurls around here seem to love it) then the stang has to be at the top of the biggest bang for the buck...i love the imports, but dang im tired of waiting for toyota to match or even compete for that title. i repeat, where is the true toyota performance sports car that will compete, the camaros gone now, but they better not think they can wait out the mustang, fight dang it the enthusiasts are waiting for a new rival car...
Polygon
07-19-2002, 12:11 AM
Originally posted by Screamer
The new supercar from Toyota will replace the ageing Supra, which started production in 1991, it will also be one of the most driver-oriented car ever to come out from Japan. [/i]"
0 to 60 in 4.5 sec (est)
Top Speed 180mph (est)
http://www.online-supercars.com/supercars/images/big/toyota_supercar.jpg
Last time I checked, the Supra debued in 1986, and before that it was the Celica Supra. They don't even know about the cars they are talking about.
The new supercar from Toyota will replace the ageing Supra, which started production in 1991, it will also be one of the most driver-oriented car ever to come out from Japan. [/i]"
0 to 60 in 4.5 sec (est)
Top Speed 180mph (est)
http://www.online-supercars.com/supercars/images/big/toyota_supercar.jpg
Last time I checked, the Supra debued in 1986, and before that it was the Celica Supra. They don't even know about the cars they are talking about.
Gravitom
07-19-2002, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by old man celica
dude man i cant believe u think the mustangs were made to be straight line cars... cmon they were also made for the road. this nex mustang along withn the other roush mustangs were made for road racing in mind.
My statement was that a miata is the best handling car for the dollar.
Miata .92 skidpad $20k
Cobra .90 skidpad $35k
Also the Cobra weighs 3664lbs, that does not sound like it was made with road racing in mind to me. It was made to spin tires, cuz that's what sells cars to 20-30 year old men in America.
Am I the only one who can admit that cars that I like have faults too?
dude man i cant believe u think the mustangs were made to be straight line cars... cmon they were also made for the road. this nex mustang along withn the other roush mustangs were made for road racing in mind.
My statement was that a miata is the best handling car for the dollar.
Miata .92 skidpad $20k
Cobra .90 skidpad $35k
Also the Cobra weighs 3664lbs, that does not sound like it was made with road racing in mind to me. It was made to spin tires, cuz that's what sells cars to 20-30 year old men in America.
Am I the only one who can admit that cars that I like have faults too?
old man celica
07-19-2002, 02:47 PM
jus wanted to make it clear that the cobra isnt made with pure straightline speed in mind dats all...i've done my hw on the 03 cobra i guess, cuz cmon im not planning on getting one, so u gotta knoe ur enemies...
Gravitom
07-19-2002, 05:07 PM
I'm not dissing the car. .90 gs and 390hp for $35k is pretty impressive IMO.
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