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Drewet88
04-15-2006, 01:24 AM
I already posted this in the Olds 98 forum but I thought it would be better suited here. Man I got pissed off again just by re-reading this post.

It finally stopped raining so I decided to start my engine swap.

I had the engine since the 6th of last month!!!

FedEx was supposed to deliver to my house but they messed up and took it to their wearhouse. Since they messed up I had to go get it myself but I dont have a truck.

My only friend with a pick-up says no because he's going out of town.

So I rent a cargo van from u-haul cuz thats the only thing I can think to do and I drive to the wearhouse. Its only like 15miles away so I don't really care but then I get lost (fucking mapquest) and I end up driving about 30miles instead of 15 and u-haul charges a dollar a mile.

When I get to the wearhouse they tell me my engine is in their computers but they can't find it so I wait about an hour and then they find it and say "it was in the last place we looked." I was like of course its going to be in the last place you look, why would you keep looking after you find it? They got all pissed off and told me I shouldn't have an attitude.

After they finally loaded it into the cargo-van (and made fun of me for having a u-haul) I started home.

About half-way home I realized I never paid for shipping because it was supposed to be COD and they didn't notice. So that perked me up until I got home and realized that my damn cherry picker has been stolen out of my backyard.

I had put it together before I left because I was going to use it to get the engine out the back of the van. It was still basically new I just bought it about 3 months ago and only used it once. So I was pissed. I didn't have the money to buy another cherry picker so how was I supposed to get it out??

I called up three friends to get their help only one said he could come. When he got there I was like lets lift it and put it on a furniture dolly that I had found in my garage. In the middle of lifting it he lets go because he's scared he's going to get a fucking splinter (it was on a perfectly smooth pallet).

So I gave him a pair of gardening gloves and we start to lift again. And again he lets go and says he thought he was going to crush his hands. Then after showing him where to hold it so he would't crush his hands he's like ok i got it now. And again he lets go. Now mind you this engine is about 400pounds so I'm getting tired of holding it up myself everytime he lets go so I'm getting pretty pissed and I see a kid walking across the street.

I ask the kid to help me with the engine and me and him lift it no problem. While my friend sits there shouting out advice. (I wanted to set the engine down right on his neck, but I'm a nice guy) After he helps me I offer to give him some money but he says no tomorrows good friday just consider it a gift and he walks off.

Now I had planned to have the engine out before I went and picked up the new one but that didn't happen because of the rain. And now that I have the new engine and its been two nice sunny days outside in a row I don't have a cherry picker anymore because of some asshole that wanted to take mine. And since two of my neighbors are racist (and I'm not just saying it they truly are and they admit it, I mean they have the communist flag hanging on their porch and a sign that reads "parking for germans only") and all of my other neighbors are friends with them but not racist I don't think I'll ever get any help in finding out who took my stuff.

So now I have to save up for a new cherry picker. Or maybe find a place that rents them out.

Does anyone know where I could get a new one for cheap?
Or of a place that rents them out?
Maybe I'll search E-bay.

Well sorry for the long post I was just pissed off.

I'm better now.

I think I should have put this in the stress relief forum.
Maybe I'll just copy and paste it there also.

BleedDodge
04-15-2006, 01:44 AM
Just wait until you start working on it...

Drewet88
04-15-2006, 01:57 AM
Just wait until you start working on it...

Man I usually work on cars as a way to release stress but I can't do that right now.

I have no idea what to do.

I'm on spring break now so I wanted to do it over spring break and be done but it doesn't look like thats happening.

According to the weather.com the only good days to do this will be next mon,tues,wed and I don't get paid until next friday.

So I guess Its not happening for a while. :(

The old engine is already prepped and just needs to be pulled out.

I wish I could find the asshole who stole my shit.

2.2 Straight six
04-15-2006, 01:26 PM
two of my neighbors are racist (and I'm not just saying it they truly are and they admit it, I mean they have the communist flag hanging on their porch and a sign that reads "parking for germans only")

why would germans have a communist flag? theg ermans hated communism, hence trying to take of russia.

Drewet88
04-15-2006, 03:00 PM
why would germans have a communist flag? theg ermans hated communism, hence trying to take of russia.


Shit I dont know.

But its there. I never actually thought about that.

The funny thing is though he says his communist flag isn't a cumunist flag he always tells people its a country.

And he has it hanging right next to an American flag.
American flag on the right, Communist flag on the left and that little sign right in the middle.

So u gotta ask him cuz don't really know.

driftinggrifter2
04-15-2006, 03:41 PM
Did the flag look like this if not then what did it look like?
http://www.fotw.net/images/c/cn%7dcpc.gif
Or are you talking bout the nazi flag?

Drewet88
04-15-2006, 11:38 PM
Did the flag look like this if not then what did it look like?
http://www.fotw.net/images/c/cn%7dcpc.gif
Or are you talking bout the nazi flag?

I don't really know how to put up pics so I hope I did this right..

No it was the confederate flag of the south it looked like this.

http://portland.indymedia.org/media/images/2004/11/303208.gif

bluechevelle
04-16-2006, 10:12 AM
I got a cherry picker from Peb Boys for $120.

travis712
04-16-2006, 10:28 AM
Sounds like a shitty time, lol. Only cool thing was that the kid helped you get the engine out while your friend and his mangina was being a pussy.

freakray
04-16-2006, 09:34 PM
I don't really know how to put up pics so I hope I did this right..

No it was the confederate flag of the south it looked like this.

http://portland.indymedia.org/media/images/2004/11/303208.gif

Do you know the difference between the confederacy and communism?

You do realise the confederate flag has nothing to do with racism, right?

Drewet88
04-17-2006, 12:47 AM
I got a cherry picker from Peb Boys for $120.

$120?

That is way better than every other price I heard.
Before that the closest one was 150 from Kragens.

I was already going to call pepboys because I heard you could rent from them but if I can buy one I would rather do that.

Do you know the difference between the confederacy and communism?

You do realise the confederate flag has nothing to do with racism, right?

I didn't really pay attention in any of my history classes...

I thought since he had one it had to deal with racism and I was told by my friend (the one that helped me with the engine, well he didnt really help) that it was a communist flag. Before that I didnt pay the flag any attention.

Regardless he still admits to being racist and tells me every chance I get it would be better for everyone if I just moved away.

But I dont care hes like 60 years old, he comes from a different time, so he can talk all he wants.

freakray
04-17-2006, 08:01 AM
I thought since he had one it had to deal with racism and I was told by my friend (the one that helped me with the engine, well he didnt really help) that it was a communist flag. Before that I didnt pay the flag any attention.


Regardless of whether the guy said he's racist or not, you and your friend have shown equal amounts of prejudice through your comments based on a flag.

driftinggrifter2
04-17-2006, 03:36 PM
Not to knock on ya or anything but you really need to pay attention in school.
Communist flags don't even equel to rascism. But seeing as how kids act in schools these days I can't be to surprised

Drewet88
04-17-2006, 05:52 PM
Regardless of whether the guy said he's racist or not, you and your friend have shown equal amounts of prejudice through your comments based on a flag.

Yea thats true and I try not to show or approve of racism but I guess in me not knowing about the meaning of flags and stuff like that I sounded stupid and racist. (everything I'm against) If I offended n e one I'm sorry.

Not to knock on ya or anything but you really need to pay attention in school.
Communist flags don't even equel to rascism. But seeing as how kids act in schools these days I can't be to surprised

My school doesnt really teach you anything..The only thing that matters out here is the football team. I dont play anymore but when I did I used that excuse every chance I got to not do homework. "Andrew why didn't you finish your homework?" "O sorry I had football practice." and everything was okay. I changed now I dont play football season is over so I have to do my homework but its still too late.

And the funny part is my friend is supposed to be the smart one in the group everytime we need help with school he shows us how to do it but he basically told me when he saw that flag that my neighbor is hella racist because that stands for nothing but racism...

O well I get burned because I listened to him...

driftinggrifter2
04-17-2006, 06:36 PM
Matter of fact about the rebel flag, we had a discusion bout that not to long ago.
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=536193

Drewet88
04-18-2006, 01:07 AM
Matter of fact about the rebel flag, we had a discusion bout that not to long ago.
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=536193


According to that post i'm ignorent...
I guess I have to agree on some points...
But I guess its because I grew up in Cali I have not seen it as a Southern Lifestyle and pride.

Well, white southern pride, anyways.

I do not think anyone who considers themselves to be 'black' take pride in that flag.

I agree with that quote I dont take pride in that flag but I got pride for the American flag.

Clearly it means whatever the bearer wants it to. Much like most other "pop culture" symbols, the interpretation is up to the individual -- any actual significance it might have had to the culture at large died out a long time ago, although there are still significant differences between the north and the south to this day.

I agree with this quote also it means whatever the bearer wants it to mean.


also people in the north are just pissed off that their flag doesnt look as bad ass as ours


um...i assume you mean the american flag?

referring to the american flag as 'their flag' shows that you don't claim it yourself and that just supports what others have said about the confederate flag representing rebellion and secession from the United States.
still having the confederate flag fly just continues to harbor feelings of division between the north and south...there is no 'north' and 'south' anymore! the civil war is over! why can't people in the south realize this...we are all part of the United States of America and the Confederat flag goes against everything that stands for.

And I really agree with deadbolt_35

To me the flag goes against that America stands for. So I guess everyone has their own opinion on what the flag stands and maybe it can stand for many different things.

I dont think racist everytime I see the flag...it depends on who I see with the flag. I never realized my neighbor had that flag up until my friend pointed it out. But I do know this band at my school that uses that flag as their symbol and I didn't think about it twice. But since my friend pointed it out and I was like well he's already racist so he must have the flag to represent racism or maybe he just is from the south and wants to represent it.

I dont know and I'm not going to ask him.

freakray
04-18-2006, 05:25 PM
Threads like this remind of how little Americans know of their own history, especially what the Civil War was about and how little slavery or for that matter, race, had to do with the war.

How many of you actually know that the flag this thread has turned into being about wasn't in fact the real flag of the Rebel Army, it in fact the flag of the Army of Tennessee and the Confederate Navy. The battle flag of the Confederate army was a perfect square.

driftinggrifter2
04-18-2006, 06:25 PM
Threads like this remind of how little Americans know of their own history, especially what the Civil War was about and how little slavery or for that matter, race, had to do with the war.

How many of you actually know that the flag this thread has turned into being about wasn't in fact the real flag of the Rebel Army, it in fact the flag of the Army of Tennessee and the Confederate Navy. The battle flag of the Confederate army was a perfect square.
Yea the slavery issue was just a side effect more or less. It helped give the north more troops to fight with perfect motivation. You'll be a free man if you fight for us- more or less what happened.
Just like how many people know that Robert E. Lee was from Va. and thats the only reason that he fought for the south. And if I remember right the original capitol of the confeds. was in Va. until we backed out of the war.(might be mistaken Its been along while since I found anyone to talk bout this with.

quteasabutton
04-18-2006, 06:30 PM
first you claim you never paid attention in school so, "oh well". then you try and say ur school doesn't teach anything. :screwy: maybe you didn't get anything out of it cuz you never paid attention.

and like everyone else said, there is a BIG difference and no correlation between communism and confederism. Communists=eastern europe/asia Confederism=southern US. they're not even close geographically. :shakehead
communists aren't racists. they're all about equality for everyone, no one better than anyone else. no offense, but you sound really stupid making a mistake that big.
Confederism is what happened when the southern US tried to form their own nation separate from the North US based on the fact that they wanted to keep slavery. Supporting confederism supports the notion that whites, especially southern whites, are superior to black people. the sign that says german parking only is just a heritage pride thing. i'm full german and i have neither of a confederate flag or german heritage pride things so you can't blame it on that. tho i agree, hanging the confederate flag next to an american flag is just wrong. and also contradictory.

crappy luck with the engine swap tho, and people stealing ur stuff. did you report it stolen or have any way of identifying it? are there ID numbers on it?

BleedDodge
04-18-2006, 06:39 PM
It's probably too bad they don't just steal the car, then you wouldn't have to bother with anything.

quteasabutton
04-18-2006, 06:42 PM
It's probably too bad they don't just steal the car, then you wouldn't have to bother with anything.
:cwm27:

freakray
04-18-2006, 06:58 PM
Yea the slavery issue was just a side effect more or less. It helped give the north more troops to fight with perfect motivation. You'll be a free man if you fight for us- more or less what happened.
Just like how many people know that Robert E. Lee was from Va. and thats the only reason that he fought for the south. And if I remember right the original capitol of the confeds. was in Va. until we backed out of the war.(might be mistaken Its been along while since I found anyone to talk bout this with.

Wrong again. The original Confederate capital was in Alabama, when VA joined the Confederacy, the capital was moved to Virginia.

Quteasabutton, slavery has been blamed for the civil war, but there are much larger issues including the right of states to decide their own future, economic issues and fear of modernisation which was occuring in the North.
Did you realise a key trigger to secession was Lincoln's swearing in as president and at first only one state seceded?

quteasabutton
04-18-2006, 07:09 PM
Wrong again. The original Confederate capital was in Alabama, when VA joined the Confederacy, the capital was moved to Virginia.

Quteasabutton, slavery has been blamed for the civil war, but there are much larger issues including the right of states to decide their own future, economic issues and fear of modernisation which was occuring in the North.
Did you realise a key trigger to secession was Lincoln's swearing in as president and at first only one state seceded?
i knew that there was more to it than just slavery for the civil war. i didn't know that many details because just like drewet, i'm guilty of finding staring at the wall often more interesting than my history teacher. i just mentioned things that were mostly relevent to his comments. but you include more good points :)

driftinggrifter2
04-18-2006, 07:23 PM
Now like I said after I moved from Va. to Ms. theres no one that had the intellect to talk about this with so I'm abit rusty.

Drewet88
04-18-2006, 08:03 PM
first you claim you never paid attention in school so, "oh well". then you try and say ur school doesn't teach anything. :screwy: maybe you didn't get anything out of it cuz you never paid attention.

crappy luck with the engine swap tho, and people stealing ur stuff. did you report it stolen or have any way of identifying it? are there ID numbers on it?

I didnt pay attention my Jr. year all the other years I paid attention and got pretty good grades I never failed a class except for my Jr. year and that class just happened to be history....All of my other years of getting A's and B's and still not knowing shit because my school (like I said before) doesn't teach shit. The students show up more than the teachers most of the time.

But I didnt come here to talk about racism and all that other stuff.
I came to just talk about my crappy luck with an engine swap and about my stuff getting stolen. I didn't think anyone would just pick it apart and use their spare time in telling me the difference in flags and the civil war.

I was just stating what a friend pointed out and what he told me it meant. Like I said in an earlier post I didn't know or care what the flag meant until he told me it stood for racism. I haven't even talked to that him since he helped me with the engine because he went to Japan for spring break.

So is it just me or is this getting taken out of context...

freakray
04-18-2006, 08:52 PM
But I didnt come here to talk about racism and all that other stuff.
I came to just talk about my crappy luck with an engine swap and about my stuff getting stolen. I didn't think anyone would just pick it apart and use their spare time in telling me the difference in flags and the civil war.


You're complaining because somebody took the time to try to help you not sound like an ignorant fool?
You may not care, but I personally hate to hear people making ignorant remarks about racism, people seem to forget it takes a fair degree of prejudice to call somebody a racist.


So is it just me or is this getting taken out of context...

You started the 'out of context' thing when you displayed your ignorance of your nation's history and what a flag stood for. :smooch:

85crxzc
04-18-2006, 09:28 PM
bad luck man me too ... in the last couple of weeks ive been fighting with a piece of crap wreckin yard that sold me a junk motor with no compression so i took it back and got another ... same ordeal no compression ... and about the uhaul part ... i used my neon to get my motor ... took the intake and exhaust mannysto get it in my back seat lol... and now the auto wrecker wont return my phone calls ..... with all the bad luck ive had makes me not wanna get my car running lol

well good luck bro

Drewet88
04-18-2006, 09:43 PM
You're complaining because somebody took the time to try to help you not sound like an ignorant fool?
You may not care, but I personally hate to hear people making ignorant remarks about racism, people seem to forget it takes a fair degree of prejudice to call somebody a racist.

I'm not complaining and I never assumed he was a racist he TOLD me he is racist. And on some small note I thank everyone for helping me with understanding the flag. But I think I'll go have to ignoring the flag instead of caring what it stood for.

You started the 'out of context' thing when you displayed your ignorance of your nation's history and what a flag stood for. :smooch:

Well if you put it that way I did start the out of context thing but when I origianlly said 'out of context' I meant it changed from O crap I got my shit stolen I feel like a dumbass for leaving it in my backyard where I thought it was safe to....O shit I am a dumbass for not knowing the meaning of a flag that I truly dont care about. LIke previously stated everyone has their own opinion on what they think the flag stands for as shown to me in this post http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...d.php?t=536193 like I said according to this post I'm ignorant, well ignorance is bliss. I liked it better before everyone pointed out my ignorance. I dont know anyone that doesnt make a mistake from time to time. My mistake of the day was mixing up the meaning of a flag.
And for all I know the flag may have some sentimental(SP?) value for him. I dont know. All I can say is that he takes care of it because it started raining earlier and he went outside to take it down and as soon as it stopped he put it back up.

Well bash on this is kinda fun.
Its takin my mind off of other shit.

Drewet88
04-18-2006, 09:54 PM
bad luck man me too ... in the last couple of weeks ive been fighting with a piece of crap wreckin yard that sold me a junk motor with no compression so i took it back and got another ... same ordeal no compression ... and about the uhaul part ... i used my neon to get my motor ... took the intake and exhaust mannysto get it in my back seat lol... and now the auto wrecker wont return my phone calls ..... with all the bad luck ive had makes me not wanna get my car running lol

well good luck bro

Good luck to you too.

Just some advice dont leave your car on the street while its not running. I wash my car at least twice a week and I just had to run out there to tell the cop its not abandoned. He said he got a call telling him there is a abandoned car on the street. Now I have three days to talk my grandma and grandpa into moving one of their cars onto the street so I can park mine in the driveway or PUSH it to another block.

O and someone stole my car battery. It was an Optima Red Top less than 2 months old. I left that in the back yard too. Guess I'll never learn my lesson...

quteasabutton
04-18-2006, 09:55 PM
:smooch: for freakray cuz ur exactly right. if ur cherrypicker meant that much to you, don't take chances leaving it out in the open for someone to take if they're determined enough. and more ignorance is not something this country needs. stop making excuses, own up to the fact that you were wrong, and move on with it. it's not like this is some petty little argument like "are his eyes brown or hazel?" this is racism. it's a big deal.

Drewet88
04-18-2006, 09:58 PM
It's probably too bad they don't just steal the car, then you wouldn't have to bother with anything.

Actually I wouldnt mind that.
I'd get more in insurance that what the car is actually worth I mean shit I bought it for $100 about a year ago off of a friend that went to the air force.

Jet-Lee
04-19-2006, 11:10 AM
I'm not prejudiced, I hate all races equally.

With that said, I see the confederate flag as either a symbol of the southern (my) lifestyle, or a symbol that screams "I'M A REDNECK AND FUCKING PROUD!!!"

Who gives a shit about slavery, anymore. Sure, it's good to know your history, but it's done and over with. Anyone who uses slavery as a cop-out, needs to be whipped. Black, white, mexican, asian, I don't give a fuck. If you make a comment referring to slavery you need whipped. Bringing the subject up only keeps it fresh in our minds and makes it available for use in the racism battle.

I'm out.

Drewet88
04-19-2006, 07:19 PM
I'm not prejudiced, I hate all races equally.

With that said, I see the confederate flag as either a symbol of the southern (my) lifestyle, or a symbol that screams "I'M A REDNECK AND FUCKING PROUD!!!"

Who gives a shit about slavery, anymore. Sure, it's good to know your history, but it's done and over with. Anyone who uses slavery as a cop-out, needs to be whipped. Black, white, mexican, asian, I don't give a fuck. If you make a comment referring to slavery you need whipped. Bringing the subject up only keeps it fresh in our minds and makes it available for use in the racism battle.

I'm out.

"I'm not prejudiced, I hate all races equally." I love that quote. And you bring up a good point.

Lets just drop the entire racism thing. I didnt even mean for it to turn into a racism conversation.

quteasabutton
04-20-2006, 04:38 PM
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e177/quteasabutten/redstateruby.gif

BleedDodge
04-21-2006, 01:17 AM
What's the car? A Cutlass or something?

2.2 Straight six
04-21-2006, 08:19 AM
Who gives a shit about slavery, anymore. Sure, it's good to know your history, but it's done and over with. Anyone who uses slavery as a cop-out, needs to be whipped. Black, white, mexican, asian, I don't give a fuck. If you make a comment referring to slavery you need whipped. Bringing the subject up only keeps it fresh in our minds and makes it available for use in the racism battle.

you have a good point, although it doesn't exsist this side of the pond, i hate how people will confront another family/person with something like "your ancestors enslaved my ancestors!" what the hell do you think they're going to do? give you compensations for something they had no control over, considering their grandparents probably weren't even alive when the event took place.

people do need to drop it, it's in the past and you can't change that.

and drewet88, if you leave stuff in the open for people too see expect the worst. if i park my car and leave the keys in it what the hell should i expect to happen to it?

it's like going to lunch, putting your phone on the table and going to the barthroom, when you come back it's gone. as much as we hate it there's always someone out there that wants easy money, whether it's stealing a phone or robbing a bank it's inevitable.

if you don't want to lose it, protect it. don't leave stuff out unguarded or unsecured, you need to take the first step, not expect that the common criminal will apreciate its value to you and think "well, it'll take him a while to get that $150 again, i should leave it." if they want it they take it.

you'll hate me for it but the bottom line is you were at fault, despite the thief, you could have prevented it. i feel little sympathy. sorry, but i'm just used to taking precations.

Drewet88
04-21-2006, 11:41 PM
What's the car? A Cutlass or something?

no its a 87 oldsmobile ninety-eight.

Drewet88
04-21-2006, 11:55 PM
it's like going to lunch, putting your phone on the table and going to the barthroom, when you come back it's gone. as much as we hate it there's always someone out there that wants easy money, whether it's stealing a phone or robbing a bank it's inevitable.

if you don't want to lose it, protect it. don't leave stuff out unguarded or unsecured, you need to take the first step, not expect that the common criminal will apreciate its value to you and think "well, it'll take him a while to get that $150 again, i should leave it." if they want it they take it.

Yea I know I know. I only can blame myself. O well whats gone is gone. I'm just gonna save up and by another one. And keep that shit in my room.

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