Procharger or Vortech?

Ok guys...ive been lookin into the supercharger for my 00-04 GT mustang path and im at another decision point. I am stuck between these two brands of superchargers (Procharger and Vortech). I also wanted to know what kind of exhaust was better...X-Pipe or H-Pipe? Please let me know guys...I just need some pros and cons on all of them and your personal opinnion on which is better. Thx. Ive also heard the tearm AODE and standard to describe the GT mustangs...what does this mean?

I'd get a procharger, their expencive but their worth it. X pipes flow a little better but IMO H pipes sound better, X pipes are raspy sounding and H pipes are deep sounding, either way you go crossovers dont really make much of a difference. AODE is a automatic transmission they used to used to put in mustangs but they never put them in 99-04's.

OK guys...I found another supercharger that has been highly recommended from a trustworthy friend of mine. Its an ATI Procharger and I would be running at 8 PSI of boost putting out around 405rwhp. Does anyone know good or bad things about this supercharger? Let me know...thx

Prochargers are great blowers.

So I take it no one has any bad words on the ATI Procharger?? And I believe its completely safe to run on a stock 4.6 engine? I cant wait to get this thing put in! Does anyone know what kind of track times that would produce if I had the ATI Procharger with the intercooler kit and H-pipe exhaust?

So I take it no one has any bad words on the ATI Procharger?? And I believe its completely safe to run on a stock 4.6 engine? I cant wait to get this thing put in! Does anyone know what kind of track times that would produce if I had the ATI Procharger with the intercooler kit and H-pipe exhaust? It isent "completly" safe but it is safe, with a 5 speed, DR's, exhaust, and a good tune probaly high 12's.

AOD was an auto tranny from the 80's and into the early 90's.
AODE replaced the AOD in 1994 (there were some AODE's in some Fords as early as 1992 though, I think)
If you have an 00-04 auto GT it is an AODE - I had one in my 99 GT and have one in my 03 Mach 1.

vortech would be cheaper, procharger with the 3 core you could safely run 12 pounds on a stock block vortech id stick with around 8-9...10 pushing it. the x or h depends entirely on your catback. if you are running flowmaster, mac, or any chambered type muffler i would stick with hpipe; on the other hand if you use borla, magnaflow, dynomax or a straight-thru type an xpipe would be a better chioce i think. you will only get the rasp if you run a xpipe with the chambered design. they will both net around the same power levels, and it also depends if you are going with a catted one or off-road design. i dont know what blower you are going with you mentioned procharger in the beginning then ati procharger later, theyre the same thing. is this a p1sc?

Hey 6speed, not trying to rob the thread here but I have a question. You say with an X-pipe and straight thrue muffler you wont get the raspy sound? I have 1 3/4" BBK LT's and 3" Dynomax bullets. I've been planning on running a 3" offroad H-pipe. But if I ran a 3" offroad X-pipe with my mufflers I wont get that annoying raspy sound? Thats what I am trying to avoid. Now, will X vs H change the sound much with my bullets? Which do you think would be the most quiet? Will the X take any sound away from the cam? Thanks, exhaust is not my specialty.

BTW, I hope he is just talking about a p1sc. Hell stick an F2 on it. Lol just kidding, please dont, you will be air-mailing rods & pistons & chuncks of block all over the country with an F2 or any of the bigger blowers really.

Yes...im talking about the P1sc. What do you mean it isnt "entirely" safe?? I want to make sure im not going to screw up my car here...but then again I do want to be able to break the 12 second mark. Im probably going to get the H-pipe exhaust and the ATI procharger at 8 or 10 PSI. Which PSI level do you recommend/

AOD was an auto tranny from the 80's and into the early 90's.
AODE replaced the AOD in 1994 (there were some AODE's in some Fords as early as 1992 though, I think)
If you have an 00-04 auto GT it is an AODE - I had one in my 99 GT and have one in my 03 Mach 1. 00-04 GT auto's are 4R70W's

Yes...im talking about the P1sc. What do you mean it isnt "entirely" safe?? I want to make sure im not going to screw up my car here...but then again I do want to be able to break the 12 second mark. Im probably going to get the H-pipe exhaust and the ATI procharger at 8 or 10 PSI. Which PSI level do you recommend/ You could always break your 8.8 doing a lot of high RPM launch's with DR's or break a piston if you ran high PSI or a long period of time and abused it, but with a good tune and running around a relatively low PSI(like 8) there is a very low chance anything would happen to your engine.

You are correct. 4R70W is a certain type of AODE, not an AOD

You are correct. 4R70W is a certain type of AODE, not an AOD They are 2 different transmissions, although there pretty much the same with the exception of different ratio's, different yokes, different housing, and a few other things they are still different tranny's. Its kind of like T-5's and T-45's, although their very simlar their still different transmissions.;)

They are 2 different transmissions, although there pretty much the same with the exception of different ratio's, different yokes, different housing, and a few other things they are still different tranny's. Its kind of like T-5's and T-45's, although their very simlar their still different transmissions.;)

+1,

and i know with vortech you make no boost until 3k rpms with a centrifical, with a procharger, atleast on the 6ers you make 3 psi at 1800 rpms

+1,

and i know with vortech you make no boost until 3k rpms with a centrifical, with a procharger, atleast on the 6ers you make 3 psi at 1800 rpms


That depends purely on the application.

Ok...so the kit that Im lookin at has a choice of 8 PSI or 10 PSI. I guess I would go with the 10 because its faster but my question to you guys is...is that too much of a push on the stock engine? I talked to the guy that would be doing the install for me (cause im not good at stuff like this) and he also recommended that I get a cat back system as well with the exhaust. So along with the procharger, what kind of cat back system would give me the best performance..and of course...the deepest roar from then engine with I hit the gas. Ive heard that the H-pipe gives the deeper sound which is what im looking for so I would prolly go with that pipe setup...but what other parts are needed to have a complete cat-back setup. Let me know what you guys think...

With a good tune 10 PSI should be fine, 3' exhaust with borla(there expencive, but they sound good) or magnaflow mufflers if you want somthing cheaper and take out your cats if you dont have emissions. Im not sure how stock GT headers flow but long tubes probaly wouldent be a bad idea either.

Hey 6speed, not trying to rob the thread here but I have a question. You say with an X-pipe and straight thrue muffler you wont get the raspy sound? I have 1 3/4" BBK LT's and 3" Dynomax bullets. I've been planning on running a 3" offroad H-pipe. But if I ran a 3" offroad X-pipe with my mufflers I wont get that annoying raspy sound? Thats what I am trying to avoid. Now, will X vs H change the sound much with my bullets? Which do you think would be the most quiet? Will the X take any sound away from the cam? Thanks, exhaust is not my specialty.

BTW, I hope he is just talking about a p1sc. Hell stick an F2 on it. Lol just kidding, please dont, you will be air-mailing rods & pistons & chuncks of block all over the country with an F2 or any of the bigger blowers really.
are the bullets the glasspack type design like theyre not really a muffler? if that is the case then i would say go xpipe but with single high flow cats because i think no cats + glasspack design (loudmouth, magnapacks, stinger, etc) sounds like ass. but if not then yea off-road xpipe would be a great choice. the h will give a very deep sound much deeper than with chambered mufflers. quieter....well i guess the h would probably be louder at idle/low rpm and the x would be louder at mid/higher rpm.
Ok...so the kit that Im lookin at has a choice of 8 PSI or 10 PSI. I guess I would go with the 10 because its faster but my question to you guys is...is that too much of a push on the stock engine? I talked to the guy that would be doing the install for me (cause im not good at stuff like this) and he also recommended that I get a cat back system as well with the exhaust. So along with the procharger, what kind of cat back system would give me the best performance..and of course...the deepest roar from then engine with I hit the gas. Ive heard that the H-pipe gives the deeper sound which is what im looking for so I would prolly go with that pipe setup...but what other parts are needed to have a complete cat-back setup. Let me know what you guys think...
with a dyno-tune you could safely run up to 12 psi with the intercooler. w/o intercooler i wouldnt venture above 10 but then again its all up to the tune. and if you're going with a cat-back listen to some clips before you decide...a h isnt necessarily the best choice for deep, throaty sound..it depends on your catback. i have the saleen borla, full lenght bbk headers, and a dr gas off-road xpipe, to me it sounds deeper than a hpipe with flows. listen for yourself:

http://www.personal.psu.edu/sss183/saleen%20burnout.wmv

this clip is flowmasters with an hpipe
http://www.personal.psu.edu/sss183/saleen%20vs%20camaro.wmv