Suspension
RedRain
04-08-2006, 01:35 PM
I'm having hellish wheel hop. I have put some of those metal bushings in the rear. Should I be looking for broken parts?:banghead:
sidewayzS13
04-08-2006, 02:03 PM
new motor and tranny mounts should help i suggest nismo.
David_NISMO
04-08-2006, 02:06 PM
Wheel hop in a 240? Never seen it before. Doesn't sound like somethings right there.
Describe the "wheel hop"
Describe the "wheel hop"
sidewayzS13
04-08-2006, 02:09 PM
i usd to get wheel hop when i first got my sr and had the old motor mounts and when i put in the nismos it was gone
Skylindrftr
04-08-2006, 08:54 PM
It was raining the other day so i went down to the rosebowl to mess around, instead of oversteering, most the time my car had wheel hop =( any ideas?
Im guessing its b/c I run super sticky tires in back and crap up front?
Im guessing its b/c I run super sticky tires in back and crap up front?
sidewayzS13
04-08-2006, 09:35 PM
if ur drifting and shit run the stickys in the front. as far as the wheel hop goes though it could just be bad suspension for the coditions you were pushing your car whats the suspension set up?
RedRain
04-08-2006, 11:34 PM
Wheel hop in a 240? Never seen it before. Doesn't sound like somethings right there.
Describe the "wheel hop"
Its wheel hop. Ever been to the drag strip and watched a car loose traction and the rear tires bounce? Also going around a turn to fast will give me wheel hop.
All of it is stock except those bushing I put in. I have been under the car looking for broken parts I have not seen anything that looks out of place though. :banghead: It hops with any loss of traction. Think I'm going to get some of those traction rods and see how that helps. Any sugestions on what I should do 1st? My main goal is quarter mile times.
Describe the "wheel hop"
Its wheel hop. Ever been to the drag strip and watched a car loose traction and the rear tires bounce? Also going around a turn to fast will give me wheel hop.
All of it is stock except those bushing I put in. I have been under the car looking for broken parts I have not seen anything that looks out of place though. :banghead: It hops with any loss of traction. Think I'm going to get some of those traction rods and see how that helps. Any sugestions on what I should do 1st? My main goal is quarter mile times.
sidewayzS13
04-09-2006, 11:49 AM
i still say motor tranny mounts. where did u get the bushings from are they the actualy bushing or just the easy install inserts?
slideways...
04-09-2006, 09:44 PM
motor mounts, subframe bushings, if it still persists, id say your suspension is less than ideal(read: get coilovers)
nissan_240sx
04-09-2006, 10:53 PM
I get wheel hop when I stand burn long and the tires get sticky. It's like the back tires want jump over the front tires lol. oh well two 215/45/R17 michelin pilot sports getting sticky lol
Skylindrftr
04-10-2006, 07:13 PM
i think im just running too hard a setup, this was in the rain in the rosebowl parking lot, Full Tein HR Coilovers 1 degree of neg camber up front, 205 goodyear eagle t/a worn half way up front (15 inch), on back pretty new 16 in bridgestone potenza re750 245, I am also running a stiffer rear, open diff and strut bars front and back...
I know it sounds screwed up but what could cause the wheel hop?
I know it sounds screwed up but what could cause the wheel hop?
slideways...
04-11-2006, 02:50 AM
again, id point to motor/tranny mounts or subframe bushings
also, if your suspension is too hard and your running like 45 series tires, the big sidewalls could sort of become part of the suspension and add flex and soften the spring rate down by the contact patch.
but most likely, the flex and movement in the mounts and subframe is probably the thing causing the suspension to hop separate from the car.
or i doubt this is it, but if your shocks are old, your compression rate couldve fallen some, and it could mean its time for a rebuild, but i think youd be able to tell when you drive around also...
also, if your suspension is too hard and your running like 45 series tires, the big sidewalls could sort of become part of the suspension and add flex and soften the spring rate down by the contact patch.
but most likely, the flex and movement in the mounts and subframe is probably the thing causing the suspension to hop separate from the car.
or i doubt this is it, but if your shocks are old, your compression rate couldve fallen some, and it could mean its time for a rebuild, but i think youd be able to tell when you drive around also...
David_NISMO
04-11-2006, 03:04 AM
I would agree. I could see stiff coilovers conflicting with gushy, soft, stock rubber bushings and cause wheel hop.
Skylindrftr
04-11-2006, 06:48 PM
Doh I really dont wanna replace bushings, my freind did it to his 240 (he is good at that kind of stuff) and it even took him a lot of time and frustration etc...
sidewayzS13
04-12-2006, 06:43 PM
yep bushings are a bitch but sack it up
slideways...
04-12-2006, 10:48 PM
go find a shop press and/or an oxyacetylene torch. and dont get high of the fumes.
David_NISMO
04-12-2006, 11:22 PM
Eh, the methylacetylene, somethin, something, One step up from a propane torch should do just fine. We use an oxy/acetyl torch, but we ended up just letting the rubber burn once it caught on fire. If you burn the suckers out first, you can just use a vice to squeeze them back in.
Well, I take that back. We also had an air hammer with a fancy bit to cut the steel part of the bushing out. Fancy bit = Body Panel cutter for quick collision teardowns.
And even with all of that, it still took a ton of patience and two days to do it. But that car rides completely different now.
Well, I take that back. We also had an air hammer with a fancy bit to cut the steel part of the bushing out. Fancy bit = Body Panel cutter for quick collision teardowns.
And even with all of that, it still took a ton of patience and two days to do it. But that car rides completely different now.
sidewayzS13
04-12-2006, 11:40 PM
yea i dread doing alum subframe bushing i just want to get a rear subframe from a junk car and take my time on doing it so my car wont be out of commision to long and weld the diff on the second subframe as well
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