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Dyno247365
04-04-2006, 03:08 PM
I know someone's going to laugh at me, but i'm taking off KYB-GR2s for some gabriel ultras. The gr2s are old, I just want new shocks on there, and they're black!!! Either way, to change out the stock coil springs to eibach pros :evillol: I have to remove the shocks.

There's a REALLY BIG fixed nut on their and it's shaped weird, it's another one of those double sided nut/bolt combinations, one has to be held while the other is loosened with a socket wrench and taken off. Is there a special KYB tool or a really thin and big wrench for this because the shock bolt that comes with the gabriel ultras is a LOT thinner. So my question is, what tool do I use to take off the gr2s??

Savage Messiah
04-04-2006, 03:23 PM
If you're just throwing them away wheres your sawzall??? :D

Dyno247365
04-04-2006, 03:24 PM
If you're just throwing them away wheres your sawzall??? :D

not...funny

wrightz28
04-04-2006, 03:38 PM
some shocks can be deceiving and one side stays put. Either way, there should be enough crud to hold it nayway. Special tool: no, jsut not one of standard variety. Right now a map torch is a really good friend to have. Oh, and if the springsw werent involvoed, he is right, sawzalls are nice.

Dyno247365
04-04-2006, 03:52 PM
some shocks can be deceiving and one side stays put. Either way, there should be enough crud to hold it nayway. Special tool: no, jsut not one of standard variety. Right now a map torch is a really good friend to have. Oh, and if the springsw werent involvoed, he is right, sawzalls are nice.

I have no intention of cutting it off, and I already used wd-40, I know it's not turning because I hear the rubber moving. I just want to know what wrench I should use. this is the first time I ever saw a nut like this, it's almost a perfect circle but it has some grooves in it for a really wide wrench, but this nut is so damn thin that a crescent wrench won't even fit.

wrightz28
04-04-2006, 04:01 PM
So this on the top mount we're talking about?

wrightz28
04-04-2006, 04:02 PM
oh, and front or rear?

Dyno247365
04-04-2006, 04:07 PM
oh, and front or rear?

bottom part of the rear shocks on a third gen. I really need a signature now

wrightz28
04-04-2006, 04:20 PM
Okay, that's what I was figuring based on your other post. Should just be only one big bolt and a nut on the backside of the bracket (facing the rear) the nut s.b what's tunred if I'm thinking right. And with a map torch, you're only heating it up, not cutting it. And it will make things easier, only bad part is your' kinda close to the thank to be playing with fire.

Dyno247365
04-04-2006, 10:35 PM
My question really wasn't answered, all I want to know is what kind of wrench i'm supposed to use to hold the inner nut in place.

wrightz28
04-05-2006, 09:53 AM
Alot of shocks run a M14.0 x2 nut whick equates to a 21 or 23mm I think.

Sorry, your question wasn't rather clear to get a mental image of where you were.

Savage Messiah
04-05-2006, 03:56 PM
Shuld be a normal nut and bolt if its anything liek the 4th gens... posible yours is rounded out from someone attempting to remove it???

Dyno247365
04-05-2006, 04:58 PM
I took pictures of the shock, check my gallery
(sorry but I get an error everytime I try to copy the picture's links.)

NEways, that gold ring looking part is the nut, looks like it was designed that way, not really rounded out. I could always be wrong.

wrightz28
04-05-2006, 05:08 PM
in the "shock2" pic, the nut right there in the bracket on the axle is the one you want to take out. If the other side starts turning, vice grip it.

Savage Messiah
04-05-2006, 06:40 PM
What he said... it's the bolt going thru it, perpendicular to the shock...

Dyno247365
04-06-2006, 12:00 AM
What he said... it's the bolt going thru it, perpendicular to the shock...

I'll try it but the problem is that nut is so thin, it's actually too thin for vice grips. I'll try vice grips tomorrow morning.

Mr. Luos
04-06-2006, 12:17 AM
Air tools

balls_to_the_wall
04-06-2006, 12:44 AM
Air tools

Are God Sent.

Mr. Luos
04-06-2006, 08:24 AM
The same problem happened to a friend and I when we where changing out his shocks. Air tools got it.

wrightz28
04-06-2006, 09:58 AM
I'll try it but the problem is that nut is so thin, it's actually too thin for vice grips. I'll try vice grips tomorrow morning.

Not the "nut" grab the bolt itself (the side facing the front of the car real tight with the grips (so damn tight it takes both hands to lock the grips, then back the real nut off that is facing twoard the rear.

That "nut" your looking at is a piece of the shock, not a mounting nut. Thos shocks are designed for cars like the Caprice as well where the shocks cross over the axles (one mounts facing forward, one rearward, so it is in a sense a universal shock, mounts either way.

Dyno247365
04-06-2006, 03:29 PM
Not the "nut" grab the bolt itself (the side facing the front of the car real tight with the grips (so damn tight it takes both hands to lock the grips, then back the real nut off that is facing twoard the rear.

That "nut" your looking at is a piece of the shock, not a mounting nut. Thos shocks are designed for cars like the Caprice as well where the shocks cross over the axles (one mounts facing forward, one rearward, so it is in a sense a universal shock, mounts either way.

GENIUS!!!!!!!!! i hope this works

air tools..trying to save money right now..

wrightz28
04-06-2006, 03:45 PM
Cool, now we're all on the same page,

um, you do have the spring secured right?

Dyno247365
04-06-2006, 04:16 PM
I have the body secured on jack stands as we discussed in another thread(they may have to be repositioned lol) and the rear end is held up by a hydr. jack.

I'm not surprised, the vice grips didn't work, all I heard was rubber, I even held the grips in place with a ramp lol (just me out there) and it seemed to be slightly working, than it just popped off of the threads.

So, since I WANT to work hastely on this car because there's still so much to do, I'm considering either a compressor and air tools or take it off the same way I did my 'spinning lug nuts' a while back on the forums, drill through the nut, destroying the bolt from the inside with a carbide drill bit. What do you think? Air tools or drill?

wrightz28
04-06-2006, 04:38 PM
Air tools are nice to have around, a impact gun might just be what the doctor ordered. But I don't see why trying at it again with grips and a breaker bar on the nut wouldn't work :dunno: i try and just get the grips to brace against a non-damageable body part (subframe or axle) to stop them from turning.

Dyno247365
04-06-2006, 04:51 PM
Air tools are nice to have around, a impact gun might just be what the doctor ordered. But I don't see why trying at it again with grips and a breaker bar on the nut wouldn't work :dunno: i try and just get the grips to brace against a non-damageable body part (subframe or axle) to stop them from turning.

well the breaker is the only way i can turn it now and the rubber turns with it. *CORRECTION you're right and I'm wrong, I was holding it with the vice grips loosely, I tightened it the best I could and leaned it against the control arm and it works! Now let's see If I can get this nut off finally

balls_to_the_wall
04-07-2006, 01:56 AM
If all else fails, pull out the Oxygen wrench... hehe

Dyno247365
04-07-2006, 02:28 AM
If all else fails, pull out the Oxygen wrench... hehe
I got the shock off, now I need to get the other one off, hoping I don't have half as much trouble with that one.

wrightz28
04-07-2006, 10:12 AM
Cool :thumbsup:

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