supercharger question
chris hatch
07-11-2002, 03:32 PM
yea i have a 98 civ ex with intake headers and exhaust and i was plannen on getting some aftermarket cams and pulleys and a venom 400 pcm. would these mods go good with a jrsc or should i just go with the supercharger first. some input would be sweeeeet thanx guys:bandit:
GSteg
07-11-2002, 04:12 PM
those mods should work. but i would get the JRSC first.
chris hatch
07-11-2002, 05:08 PM
Thanx gsteg,
by the way do you know what a good base price for a jrsc is, the cheapest I have found them are 2,800
by the way do you know what a good base price for a jrsc is, the cheapest I have found them are 2,800
SleeperCivic
07-11-2002, 10:32 PM
Man, that's an awesome price!!
chris hatch
07-11-2002, 11:59 PM
REALLY,
:D
thanx for the info guys by the way do you guys have any advice on mods that won't work very well with the jrsc, and should I try and tackle this project myself or should I get a performance shop to do it.:smoker2:
:D
thanx for the info guys by the way do you guys have any advice on mods that won't work very well with the jrsc, and should I try and tackle this project myself or should I get a performance shop to do it.:smoker2:
higgimonster
07-12-2002, 09:11 AM
about that venom thingy you got. take a look here (http://www.spswebpage.com/tech/free_performance.html) and scroll to the first heading.
just a warning, you wont be happy about the money you spent on it.
just a warning, you wont be happy about the money you spent on it.
chris hatch
07-12-2002, 12:20 PM
:( damn I can't believe venom is rippen people off like that they seem like a real good company. I't's a good thing I haven't bought that yet, because i'm not going to. 300 bucks just to open your throttle more what a crock of shit.:D
higgimonster
07-12-2002, 01:16 PM
It absolutly is. make sure to warn others of venoms scheeming ways.
ViGGa2LO
07-12-2002, 03:03 PM
I wouldnt even waste the money on a supercharger... I would wait another year and put more money towards a turbo, although superchargers work, I wouldnt waste the money for what you can but with an extra 1500-2000
GSteg
07-12-2002, 03:48 PM
$2000 is definitely a good price on a JRSC unit. if you don't feel comfortable installing it yourself..bring it to a reputable mechanic.
chris hatch
07-12-2002, 04:11 PM
yea I was thinken turbo at first but then decided on supercharger because im gonna do a B engine swap when I hit 120k and then turbo my B engine. Does anybody have any input on what old honda I should swap my supercharged d engine in:D
GSteg
07-12-2002, 04:14 PM
maybe in a 88-91 civic/CRX?:cool:
chris hatch
07-12-2002, 05:57 PM
Damn gsteg u read my mind im thinken 88 crx, i found one for 500 bucks, but i'm gonna look around some more mabey in better shape:smoker2:
chris hatch
07-13-2002, 08:48 PM
how many horses do you think I can get out of my stock engine with the jrsc if I upgrade a whole bunch of shit.:D
GSteg
07-13-2002, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by chris hatch
how many horses do you think I can get out of my stock engine with the jrsc if I upgrade a whole bunch of shit.:D
well depends how much you boost it and what parts..i've seen stock internal EX engine make ~180whp. it might produce more, but there isn't much interest in building up a SOHC EX engine:(
how many horses do you think I can get out of my stock engine with the jrsc if I upgrade a whole bunch of shit.:D
well depends how much you boost it and what parts..i've seen stock internal EX engine make ~180whp. it might produce more, but there isn't much interest in building up a SOHC EX engine:(
chris hatch
07-13-2002, 09:03 PM
true, but how many horses do you think i would get with the mods I have right now.:smoker2:
ric
07-13-2002, 10:49 PM
venom 400's are a waste to begin with and using one with a supercharger is only gonna be worse. the thing works by increasing signals to show a higher load then is actually there. using it wit a jrsc will only make things much worse.
as for cams, i suggest you do some reading on them first. cams for a naturally aspirated motor will bleed off boost from increased overlap, not something you want.
as for cams, i suggest you do some reading on them first. cams for a naturally aspirated motor will bleed off boost from increased overlap, not something you want.
chris hatch
07-13-2002, 11:00 PM
yea this guy I met had a venom pcm and he said he loved it, I tryed to tell him he got ripped off but he diddn't think so because his car took off faster, I then told him I have one too it's called a foot and all you have to do is stomp the pedal with it. what an ass!:flipa:
SleeperCivic
07-14-2002, 12:19 AM
Originally posted by GSteg
well depends how much you boost it and what parts..i've seen stock internal EX engine make ~180whp. it might produce more, but there isn't much interest in building up a SOHC EX engine:(
You might be right on the interest part, but my 99 EX SOHC is pushing around 200HP at the wheels and it's VERY nice. I'm running 9psi with the Greddy 15G kit and a Greddy intercooler. I'm very happy with the performance and haven't had one reliability problem yet. I've had the kit on almost a year now.
well depends how much you boost it and what parts..i've seen stock internal EX engine make ~180whp. it might produce more, but there isn't much interest in building up a SOHC EX engine:(
You might be right on the interest part, but my 99 EX SOHC is pushing around 200HP at the wheels and it's VERY nice. I'm running 9psi with the Greddy 15G kit and a Greddy intercooler. I'm very happy with the performance and haven't had one reliability problem yet. I've had the kit on almost a year now.
chris hatch
07-14-2002, 02:14 AM
what size is your tubo you have on your car, can't you get at least 250 ponnies out of the sohc with a big enough turbo and enough money:confused:
GSteg
07-14-2002, 02:47 AM
Originally posted by chris hatch
what size is your tubo you have on your car, can't you get at least 250 ponnies out of the sohc with a big enough turbo and enough money:confused:
with enough money..you can make more than that.....
what size is your tubo you have on your car, can't you get at least 250 ponnies out of the sohc with a big enough turbo and enough money:confused:
with enough money..you can make more than that.....
SleeperCivic
07-14-2002, 08:03 AM
Actually, Alamo Autosports in Arlington, TX got 300HP out of a SOHC with the Greddy 15G, inline fuel pump, adjustable fuel press. reg., bigger injectors, and a Haltech MU. Imagine that on stock internals! I spent just over $3000.00 for everything I have.
chris hatch
07-14-2002, 02:10 PM
man thats some cool shit, lot's of money though. Wish I was pushen 300 ponnies:D
jmack89427
07-25-2002, 12:02 PM
Hey Chris, just thought I would let you know about my experience with a SOHC and JRSC. My buddy works at a performance/audio shop and I was talking to him about doing the same thing as you. He told me that they actually did it for a guy, and it didn't add a ton of power. I don't know if he had the normal I/H/E upgrades and such, but the dyno'd his car and it was only pushing 139 hp at the wheels. That is roughly what the b16a2 puts out at the wheels, so I would assume he was making about 160-165 at the crank. For $3K , I would just buy the b16a2 or b18c1 first, and then got turbo or SC.
SleeperCivic
07-25-2002, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by jmack89427
Hey Chris, just thought I would let you know about my experience with a SOHC and JRSC. My buddy works at a performance/audio shop and I was talking to him about doing the same thing as you. He told me that they actually did it for a guy, and it didn't add a ton of power. I don't know if he had the normal I/H/E upgrades and such, but the dyno'd his car and it was only pushing 139 hp at the wheels. That is roughly what the b16a2 puts out at the wheels, so I would assume he was making about 160-165 at the crank. For $3K , I would just buy the b16a2 or b18c1 first, and then got turbo or SC.
What??? That's IT?? Dude, a 97-00 EX puts out roughly 127HP at the crank stock. That install is messed up for real. I ran it with a Celica off the line that had a JRSC and I got smoked. Something isn't right with that guys install. Hate to hear stuff like that....
Hey Chris, just thought I would let you know about my experience with a SOHC and JRSC. My buddy works at a performance/audio shop and I was talking to him about doing the same thing as you. He told me that they actually did it for a guy, and it didn't add a ton of power. I don't know if he had the normal I/H/E upgrades and such, but the dyno'd his car and it was only pushing 139 hp at the wheels. That is roughly what the b16a2 puts out at the wheels, so I would assume he was making about 160-165 at the crank. For $3K , I would just buy the b16a2 or b18c1 first, and then got turbo or SC.
What??? That's IT?? Dude, a 97-00 EX puts out roughly 127HP at the crank stock. That install is messed up for real. I ran it with a Celica off the line that had a JRSC and I got smoked. Something isn't right with that guys install. Hate to hear stuff like that....
chris hatch
07-25-2002, 06:21 PM
man that sucks ass that cant be right with all my mods I have right now I raced my friends 95 accord ex 2.2 vtec and i think those have at least 160 at the crank and I beat him by 2 car lengths I need to get my car on the dyno. Thats like 1,000 dollars for every 10 horses what the hell:smoker2:
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