2007 Caliber SRT4

What makes you think that the SRT Caliber will be any different then the Neon when it come to the power rating?Only time will tell, but I think DCX will overshoot the rating on the caliber to try and improve sales. Besides they blew it when they decided not to release an AWD version of the SRT :shakehead

Only time will tell, but I think DCX will overshoot the rating on the caliber to try and improve sales. Besides they blew it when they decided not to release an AWD version of the SRT :shakehead
They said that the reason they didn't make it AWD is because the system couldn't handle the engine's power.

They said that the reason they didn't make it AWD is because the system couldn't handle the engine's power.

that's bull, AWD cars are fast. There's the Nissan Skyline, Subaru WRX Sti, Mitshibitshi Evo VI, and more that i can't think of at the moment. AWD can handle high output cars, and there's alot of them out there.

that's bull, AWD cars are fast. There's the Nissan Skyline, Subaru WRX Sti, Mitshibitshi Evo VI, and more that i can't think of at the moment. AWD can handle high output cars, and there's alot of them out there.
I don’t think you understand. Dodge said that the Caliber’s AWD system can’t the engine’s power. The Caliber’s AWD system is not as strong as the STi’s, EVO’s, etc.

I don’t think you understand. Dodge said that the Caliber’s AWD system can’t the engine’s power. The Caliber’s AWD system is not as strong as the STi’s, EVO’s, etc.

you're right, i don't understand. there's so many good AWD systems, so i can't see why there isn't one good enough to power the caliber srt, this car really sucks.

Look the SRT-4 Neon is not a light car it weighs 2,980 lbs, the SRT-4 Caliber is 3,200 lbs that’s about a 7% difference in weight. The SRT-4 Neon has 230 hp, the SRT-4 has 300 hp that’s about a 30% difference in power. The Caliber will be faster.

... a stock Neon-based SRT4 puts out a rated 230hp/250lb-ft of torque... and on average it runs about a 13.8 in the 1/4-mile. :grinyes: So theoretically if I could fit a 7000-hp motor out of a funny car into a Neon subframe and keep the same weight, it should have 3043% more hp and run a 0.45-second 1/4-mile right? Guess what, simple math doesn't apply to 1/4-mile times like that!!! :grinno:

Ok explain to me how the SRT-4 Caliber weighing 220 lbs more then the SRT-4 Neon is going to make the Neon faster in the 1/4 mile with a professional driver even know the Caliber has a massive power advantage?

... once again, cars in this weight category usually drop 0.1 seconds in the 1/4-mile for every 15 to 20 pounds that you add to them. So 220 lbs would at least add another second to it... back up into at LEAST the mid-14-sec range :banghead: And in the 14-second 1/4-mile range for cars of this weight, it usually takes an additional 100 hp to shave that extra second back off... so with only a 70 hp difference between the Neon SRT4 and Caliber SRT4, i will assume no better or probably worse performance from the Caliber. :2cents:

you're right, i don't understand. there's so many good AWD systems, so i can't see why there isn't one good enough to power the caliber srt, this car really sucks.

Well Dodge used the Mitsu-shared system in the Dodge Stealth R/T before, so it's not like they haven't been-around-the-block with it before... I don't see why they haven't made tweaks and implemented back into these platforms by now... oh well.

:disappoin :loser: I can't understand how a flip-boombox makes people to buy a car???? :shakehead

I once bought a car because it had enormous flip down cup holders
:screwy:

... a stock Neon-based SRT4 puts out a rated 230hp/250lb-ft of torque... and on average it runs about a 13.8 in the 1/4-mile. :grinyes: So theoretically if I could fit a 7000-hp motor out of a funny car into a Neon subframe and keep the same weight, it should have 3043% more hp and run a 0.45-second 1/4-mile right? Guess what, simple math doesn't apply to 1/4-mile times like that!!! :grinno:

... once again, cars in this weight category usually drop 0.1 seconds in the 1/4-mile for every 15 to 20 pounds that you add to them. So 220 lbs would at least add another second to it... back up into at LEAST the mid-14-sec range :banghead: And in the 14-second 1/4-mile range for cars of this weight, it usually takes an additional 100 hp to shave that extra second back off... so with only a 70 hp difference between the Neon SRT4 and Caliber SRT4, i will assume no better or probably worse performance from the Caliber. :2cents:
The rule of thumb is 100 lbs = 1/10 of a second, but that’s beside the point. An extra 70 hp is going to be more important then an extra 220 lbs.

If there was something really different about the SRT-4 Neon vs the Caliber SRT-4 you might have a point about me saying which one is faster based on numbers, but there the same type of car. There both FWD economy cars with turbo I4's and LSDs.

Your acting like the Neon is some RWD true sports car, come back to reality it’s a FWD sedan, it’s not going to have any inherent advantage over the Caliber.

There both FWD economy cars with turbo I4's and LSDs.Depends on what year SRT-4 you are referring to.

Honestly the only good thing I see coming from this caliber is the SRT badge I will be ordering from the dealer for my srt-4 lol

Your acting like the Neon is some RWD true sports car, come back to reality it’s a FWD sedan, it’s not going to have any inherent advantage over the Caliber.

... I'm very much in reality... the guys who bolt 18" tall spoilers on the back of their V6 Mustangs and rev-up at a light are the ones that need a reality check. I'm not saying the Neon has an advantage over the Caliber... well, other than curb wieght, braking, handling, etc. I'm just saying that the Caliber doesn't have any advantage over the Neon... well, other than the cooler in the dashboard. :iceslolan

It looks sad. Like a name brand rip off...from a distance it's not bad---however when your up close--it loses its cool. Plus the lights look like s***!

It looks sad. Like a name brand rip off...from a distance it's not bad---however when your up close--it loses its cool. Plus the lights look like s***!

word :grinyes:

don't get me wrong, i like the front lights, but the rear lights look like lego blocks.

Dodge Stealth SS - (I got smoked by one of these on the street once... first streetable Stealth I ever personally saw that could yank the front wheels... I still get wood just thinking about it)

LOL you mean ES? And if the front wheels were turning over you just got beat by the NA version congrats :icon16:

It will be interesting to see what Dodge does with the caliber...

My Grandpa wants to buy a Caliber. :frown: 19's on the SRT? Come on. Now every punk ass kid is going to have one. All they had to do is add AWD to the SRT-4 and boost the power a little.

It will be interesting to see what Dodge does with the caliber...

What do you mean? What do you think Dodge is thinking about doing with the Caliber? Just curious. I'm still liking the car, I just like to hear what people think about it.

lol well, awd with 300+ horses anywhere in the near future would be something. But then again, if they want to do good with the caliber I dont think they will do that for long, if at all. So many people want more of a family car nowadays(good gas mileage + function). We will see :)

lol well, awd with 300+ horses anywhere in the near future would be something.That idea was already shot down by Dodge :shakehead

did anyone here the news about the new "world engine", which is the brainchild of chrysler corp., hyundai, and mitsubishi, well the news is that mitsubishi backed out of the program (do they know something we don't), and there share is being bought out by chrysler.......strange

lol well, awd with 300+ horses anywhere in the near future would be something. But then again, if they want to do good with the caliber I dont think they will do that for long, if at all. So many people want more of a family car nowadays(good gas mileage + function). We will see :)

That's part of why i think the Caliber is appealing, it's gas mielage and function. There's nothing wrong with saving money on a car and having it do exactly what you want it to.

Wow you guys take your economy cars way too seriously.

Especially whoever thinks a stock SRT4 can beat an 03/04 Cobra:rofl: Maybe if you pull about 4 of his sparkplugs:licka:

In my dealership there's a Mopar dealer magazine floating around in the sales department with a decent article of a Caliber rally car. It had turbo and AWD:wink:

I'll see if I can get ahold of it. I couldn't find any info on it online:frown:

This thing aint hitting 13's 1/4 is it??
Heard somthing today about that, god I dont wanna have to watch my back for one of these creeping up haha. Its probaly a low 14 second car, it doesent sound like its gonna be fast.

Its probaly a low 14 second car, it doesent sound like its gonna be fast.A low 14 second car isn't exactly slow either.

yea, low 14s are like old stock american muscle cars. so it isn't that slow. still wouldn't buy one though :)

A low 14 second car isn't exactly slow either. I didnt say it was slow, but it isent exacly "fast".

I didnt say it was slow, but it isent exacly "fast".

How fast is your ride?

How fast is your ride? I dunno, I havent taken it to the track yet, probaly only mid 13's with this slushbox.

...with good sticky tires and a perfect launch

however

the caliber will do it stock.

...with good sticky tires and a perfect launch

however

the caliber will do it stock. It doesent take sticky tires, and its impossible to get a "perfect launch" with a stock stall converter and a car the bogs down as much as mine does off the line.

some cars just don't have the pull in the low rpms, unless there's a little modification.

some cars just don't have the pull in the low rpms, unless there's a little modification. Its the way 3.8's are, they bog down around 2200 RPM's. The only way I've found to get past it is by spraying off the line, but that doesent work out to well with street tires.

that's not always good, why not some upgrades to gain more torque?

that's not always good, why not some upgrades to gain more torque? I already have 4.10's, there pretty much nothing else I can do. But in the near future I plan on doing a H/C/I swap with 4.3 internals and a torque converter w/ stall and DR's, so I should have a pretty good launch with that.

ha, that reminds me, i need to fix my torque converter cuz it's going bad. damn

It doesent take sticky tires, and its impossible to get a "perfect launch" with a stock stall converter and a car the bogs down as much as mine does off the line.

I'm amazed that you're so into cars and you haven't had it at the track. Why is that?

not everyone has money to go to the track fem. :)

not everyone has money to go to the track fem. :)

So...if your not at the track, then do you street race it?

well, that's if i'm lucky enough to find someone who's down to race, half the time they're either going somewhere, or meeting a friend. So i'm better off just finding racing spots. i just found out yesterday there's a rank here in houston. but i don't know if it is true or not.

well, that's if i'm lucky enough to find someone who's down to race, half the time they're either going somewhere, or meeting a friend. So i'm better off just finding racing spots. i just found out yesterday there's a rank here in houston. but i don't know if it is true or not.

the streetracing scene in PDX is ok. Lot of cops lately. Not that that's really stopping anyone...although we have out own race track and a drag strip in woodburn (45 min away) so that's usually where people go anyhow. So what's the fastest that you've ever drivin it?

i topped it out at 121 mph, quite a few times, but that's only when the traffic is nice to me, and don't have so many cars on the freeway. Mine isn't really that fast. It's only bone stock, besides the lighter rims. I also got rid of that silly airbox that's under the left fender. The tone's a little louder because of it, and i really enjoy it. I'm trying to get a job as quickly as i can cuz i have a few problems to fix.

not everyone has money to go to the track fem. :)It's $10 man, c'mon cheapskate :grinno:

It's $10 man, c'mon cheapskate :grinno:
what about you? What does your baby do at the track? ;)

I'm amazed that you're so into cars and you haven't had it at the track. Why is that? I just got my nitrous a couple months ago, I'm planning a trip to the track in a couple weeks though. South Florida summer weather is definatly gonna fuck up my times.:(

I just got my nitrous a couple months ago, I'm planning a trip to the track in a couple weeks though. South Florida summer weather is definatly gonna fuck up my times.:(

Hey-how do you guys upload photos? I figured it was in the profile section-but it wont let me copy and paste them and I don't see an area to upload them. Thanks, Jess

Hey-how do you guys upload photos? I figured it was in the profile section-but it wont let me copy and paste them and I don't see an area to upload them. Thanks, Jess www.photobucket.com

Hey-how do you guys upload photos? I figured it was in the profile section-but it wont let me copy and paste them and I don't see an area to upload them. Thanks, Jess

Thank you!!!

what about you? What does your baby do at the track? ;)My current neon, probably around 16.5 seconds. It's pretty much stock and its a ATX.

Hey-how do you guys upload photos? I figured it was in the profile section-but it wont let me copy and paste them and I don't see an area to upload them. Thanks, Jess
They have to be on the web somewhere already to use the picture.jpg code. Upload them to photobucket.com or imageshack.com then use the code.