98 gtp will not start sometimes
quinch2005
04-02-2006, 06:02 PM
It start a week ago I turn the key all lights light as normal
but the car will not start no sound at all. A friend has a pontiac
he had problem with the alarm system. He sugested to turn the key and keep it on for 20 minust and try it. I did and it work. Now I'm try to find a away
to bypass the alarm system at the ignation. My friend says there is a way
his car cost him $25 his wife's which had the same problem cosat $500
Help
but the car will not start no sound at all. A friend has a pontiac
he had problem with the alarm system. He sugested to turn the key and keep it on for 20 minust and try it. I did and it work. Now I'm try to find a away
to bypass the alarm system at the ignation. My friend says there is a way
his car cost him $25 his wife's which had the same problem cosat $500
Help
maxwedge
04-02-2006, 07:40 PM
If it is the issue with broken wires from the key cylinder, then you can check the reistance of the chip in the key, go to radio shack by resistors that equal the key chip solder them together. Remove the lower column cover and find the connector coming out of the column, 2 small white wires and unplug the connector, jump the resisor pack into the body side of the connector, this will replace the key cylinder reading the resistance.
BNaylor
04-04-2006, 12:39 PM
PM received.
I agree with Max if that is your problem. There is a bypass procedure that can be performed on the Passkey system as he mentioned. I had the wiring diagram and procedure someplace.
Do you ever get the SECURITY light? Are you using the same key or have you tried a spare, if available. Try cleaning the resistor pellet contacts using a pencil eraser.
I agree with Max if that is your problem. There is a bypass procedure that can be performed on the Passkey system as he mentioned. I had the wiring diagram and procedure someplace.
Do you ever get the SECURITY light? Are you using the same key or have you tried a spare, if available. Try cleaning the resistor pellet contacts using a pencil eraser.
quinch2005
04-05-2006, 06:27 PM
can you send me the rpocedure to bypass the passkey alarm system
BNaylor
04-05-2006, 07:04 PM
can you send me the rpocedure to bypass the passkey alarm system
Here it is. Took me awhile to find it since I have so many bookmarks.
http://www.12vp.com/info_resistors.htm
Take note of how to measure both the key pellet and tumbler resistance to get the right averaged value. Also the wires are either 2 white or a white and purple. Can't miss them because they are from the key tumbler connector. Good luck!
Here it is. Took me awhile to find it since I have so many bookmarks.
http://www.12vp.com/info_resistors.htm
Take note of how to measure both the key pellet and tumbler resistance to get the right averaged value. Also the wires are either 2 white or a white and purple. Can't miss them because they are from the key tumbler connector. Good luck!
maxwedge
04-05-2006, 07:51 PM
Here it is. Took me awhile to find it since I have so many bookmarks.
http://www.12vp.com/info_resistors.htm
Take note of how to measure both the key pellet and tumbler resistance to get the right averaged value. Also the wires are either 2 white or a white and purple. Can't miss them because they are from the key tumbler connector. Good luck!
Geez Bob, I feel bad ,I thought I explained it pretty good in my post, Max
http://www.12vp.com/info_resistors.htm
Take note of how to measure both the key pellet and tumbler resistance to get the right averaged value. Also the wires are either 2 white or a white and purple. Can't miss them because they are from the key tumbler connector. Good luck!
Geez Bob, I feel bad ,I thought I explained it pretty good in my post, Max
BNaylor
04-06-2006, 12:26 AM
Geez Bob, I feel bad ,I thought I explained it pretty good in my post, Max
Your explanation sounded good to me. :bigthumb:
Your explanation sounded good to me. :bigthumb:
quinch2005
04-06-2006, 05:43 PM
bob
can you please send me a wirting diagram. Please explain what a pallet is
and plaese don't tell me it's wooden and holds things (:
can you please send me a wirting diagram. Please explain what a pallet is
and plaese don't tell me it's wooden and holds things (:
BNaylor
04-06-2006, 05:57 PM
bob
can you please send me a wirting diagram. Please explain what a pallet is
and plaese don't tell me it's wooden and holds things (:
lol :lol: Thats funny.
Seriously, the resistor pellet is that little black square chip on your key.
On the wiring diagram send me a PM email with your regular email address and I'll send it to you as an attachment. I don't normally post service manual material.
can you please send me a wirting diagram. Please explain what a pallet is
and plaese don't tell me it's wooden and holds things (:
lol :lol: Thats funny.
Seriously, the resistor pellet is that little black square chip on your key.
On the wiring diagram send me a PM email with your regular email address and I'll send it to you as an attachment. I don't normally post service manual material.
ericn1300
05-28-2006, 06:35 PM
Geez Bob, I feel bad ,I thought I explained it pretty good in my post, Max
your directions were right on. mine failed in the church parking lot (might have been a message) and i fixed it right there in less than 15 mins with a $.99 cent resistor from radio shack after reading your post. saved me a bundle, the lock shop wanted $200 plus towing to change the ignition switch out.
thanks to all of you who help out here.
your directions were right on. mine failed in the church parking lot (might have been a message) and i fixed it right there in less than 15 mins with a $.99 cent resistor from radio shack after reading your post. saved me a bundle, the lock shop wanted $200 plus towing to change the ignition switch out.
thanks to all of you who help out here.
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