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79Bandit

04-02-2006, 11:59 AM

Welp my fellow af.comers today the engine has been pulled :) bandit is now without a heart...here are the plans let me know what you think or any tips you might have.

Bore over - .031
Stroke - .75
Making are old 400ci into a nice 472 ci

then adding

Eagle 455 crank
Eagle Rods
Federal Mogul bearings
Custom Ross Performance Pistons
Xe284 Cam
Comp Cams Pushrods
Edlebrock 87-cc heads
Ferrea Valves

Muhahaha with those parts and a little more work here and there in about 4 months time i should be seeing times of 12.0 - 13.20 at the track on pump gas :)

thanks goes out to jims hand book "How to build max-performance pontiacs v-8s"

79Bandit

04-02-2006, 10:36 PM

Fuzzy_C

04-03-2006, 02:09 AM

ouch, nasty push rod, but it looks like it's goin good so far, that thing's gonna be a damn beast when it's done, make the second generation proud :)

MrPbody

04-03-2006, 02:26 PM

Bandit,

That combo IS good for about 530 HP (ask me how I know that...). I question the need for Ross pistons. The Eagle "kit" comes with SRPs, which are every bit as good as the Ross, and at a significantly lower price. I AM a Ross "dealer", I speak from experience. Also an Eagle "dealer", we substitute the Clevite mains ("full groove") for Federal Moguls (3/4 groove). The Clevite rod bearings are the best on the planet...

You "list" the Eagle 455 crank. If you order it that way, you'll get the wrong one. Eagle lists the one you want as a "400 Stroker" crank. That is, it has the 3" main journals to fit the 400 block. It also has the 4.25" sroke and 2.2" (BBC) rod journals.

You'll notice the source of that "recipe" in Jim's book is Central Virginia Machine Service (your's truly!). You might also be interested to know, I wrote Chapter 2, "Building Your Shortblock".

E-mail me about this project. Be glad to help.

Jim ([email protected])

ponchonutty

04-03-2006, 03:07 PM

It's nice to see us old 'Birds on here. I'll try to post some pics of some of my old favorites that I had to sell. I'm still upset for selling my prize. It was a '76 TA ordered with rare options that I had to sell a few years ago. It only had 19k on the clock!!!!
Anyway, glad to see you are gonna build it right. Pbody, good to see you had a sharp eye!

76ta

04-03-2006, 03:48 PM

hey poncho nutty nice to hear u had a 76'... same as what i got ... its gettin painted right now but ill put up some pics when i get back... the color is "electron blue metallic" off of 02-03 zo6 vettes... im just on my way downtown to put up a shipment of parts for my mild chev 350 (only thing that fits my current budget, or i would rebuild the 400 poncho block) being 16 and all haha...

79bandit shes gunna be a beaty when u getter' done ... cant wait

79Bandit

04-03-2006, 08:31 PM

pro_am

04-03-2006, 09:34 PM

Man, I wish i had the money to make a beast like that, and i'm totally not jealous, but seriously, can i have it?
Jake

79Bandit

04-03-2006, 10:07 PM

lol can you have it !!! well if you would of been there after i dropted that piston earlier on my foot i probally would of let you

Fuzzy_C

04-04-2006, 12:29 AM

lol can you have it !!! well if you would of been there after i dropted that piston earlier on my foot i probally would of let you

i got sacked by a piston once, guy was hammering on the top, i went to catch it, slipped through my arms, BAM right in the crotch lol

all that for $150, damn, if i could get stuff done for prices like that i wouldn't do everything myself lol

97cavalier

04-04-2006, 11:34 PM

looks nice, did you cut the header to get the motor out?lol

79Bandit

04-05-2006, 12:24 AM

looks nice, did you cut the header to get the motor out?lol

Lol actually i did...where theres a will theres a way...the previous owner had welded the headers to the exhaust pipe so i said fuck it cut em off lol

97cavalier

04-05-2006, 11:19 PM

nice work.

79Bandit

04-06-2006, 02:08 PM

nice work.

its like a always said. "If ductape and wd-40 doesnt do the job then cut it off"

79Bandit

04-06-2006, 09:12 PM

*UPDATE*
welp the block went to the machine shop today and is gonig to be hot tanked honed, bead blasted checked for any problems and bored i should get the block back either saturday or monday ill post some pictures.

97cavalier

04-06-2006, 10:37 PM

good job so far, looks like it is comming along good.

79Bandit

04-24-2006, 01:50 PM

welp the machine shop took forever and i want get the block back untill tommorow...also im taking my heads to get cleaned up there i wanted them ported and he said it would run about 250 a head....is this correct? or is he just tired of messing with it and trying to scare me away?

MrPbody

04-25-2006, 02:04 PM

Porting E-heads must be done by someone familiar with them. Under no circumstances allow a novice to "port" them. $250 per head indicates a "sportsman" job. He should be able to get them over 300 on the intake side, and 240 on the exhaust for that money.

Upgrading the exhaust valve to at least 1.75" will help extract the most from them.

I would recommend you send them to a Pontiac shop to keep from wasting your money. Our average "port job" costs $600. Depending on what part of the country you live in, that $500 could be a good deal or just a "touch up".

Jim Butler Performance (Leona, TN) is aknowledged as among the better porters for E-heads. Kauffman Racing Equipment (Glenmont, OH) is another good one. If you're on the West Coast, SD Performance in Vancouver, BC is the place. If you're anywhere near DC or Charlotte, CVMS (us) is the place.

Jim

79Bandit

06-02-2006, 01:51 AM

welp guys its been awhile since i have said anything about bandit...and how it was comming along sorry had some troubles...well a lot has changed since...here is what we got now tell me what you think....(ohh and if theres anyone who could give me a estimate in hp i will now have i would much apreciate it)

Old engine 1968 400ci

Work done to old engine ...

bored .30 over
New Cam : Comp Cams XE284H-10
New Pistons: Speed Pro Power Forged Pistons (aluminum forged)
New Crank: Eagle 455 (Modified for my 400ci)

:( so im not going to get to build the powerhouse i wanted but i still have a pretty nice engine.

*REASON* City is all over me about having a non running car in my driveway so i got to get the beast back together asap...

anywho on a little nicer note...can someone help me out with building my heads...im not sure whats good and whats not..

I'll get some pictures by tuesday my parts should arrive by then, if you have a ny free time go to summit racing and here are the part numbers of the cam kit and pistons ordered from them (i ordered the rest of the parts from another place) and you can get the specs and let me know if there good or not..

CCA-K12-250-3 - Cam Kit
TRW-L2262F30 - Pistons

ikeyballz

06-02-2006, 03:48 AM

dude. youre crazy too. haha i want to do that to my SS. >_< you should get those..fender guards. that TA is too pretty to put a scratch on!

mcbeefer

06-03-2006, 12:22 PM

dude that sucks about the city jumping ya, do yoiu have more than one nonrunning car? i sure its diffrent than here but we are alowed one car that isnt current on the plates on your property. also is the garage behind your car full? I just hate to see you rush the work on your car and not get it quite to what you want.

79Bandit

06-04-2006, 02:23 AM

i have 3 cars a 93 dakota a 93 civic lx and my trans am ... and they are all are regestered and tagged...as for my garage it is full of motorcycles ... ;) and yes i hate to hury as well...but were looking into moving soon...

79Bandit

06-04-2006, 02:25 AM

dude. youre crazy too. haha i want to do that to my SS. >_< you should get those..fender guards. that TA is too pretty to put a scratch on!

People cant scratch something they cant catch lol..j/p fender guards? im to lazy to google that lol sooo wanna just tell me where i can find a pic of what yoru talking about? sounds like commen since should tell you what fender guards are but.. im lacking in that department

mcbeefer

06-04-2006, 02:26 AM

oh i see i figured ther was a reason y you wernt building her in there good luck with putting her back together and them move.

79Bandit

06-04-2006, 02:34 AM

wheres MrPbody when i need him i havent been able to get in contact with him for months now...

ikeyballz

06-04-2006, 06:49 AM

ohh.. im not sure if thats even what its called, its basically a soft vinyl cover that goes over the hood/front fender so when you work ON the car, you dont put any scratches on the fenders.. (when you rest things/ put your arm..etc on the fender) something like
http://www.grw-products.com/images/fenderprot.JPGhttp://www.grw-products.com/images/fenderprot.JPG

79Bandit

06-05-2006, 01:16 AM

ohh those yea i have those...but bandit could use a new paint job it looks good in the pictures but up close it looks like it got in a fight with a cat...

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