Won't crank after storage
Iron
03-22-2006, 09:55 PM
Ok so I went to start it up for the first time in months today, and the engine wouldn't even try to turn itself over, so we tried to boost it(with reading the manual first just in case of course), and after struggling to find an appropriate ground, we got a light to turn on, and soon when the ignition was on the dash display lights and all turned on. Soon after, I turned the key and all the dash lights immediately died and it wasn't long before the console/overhead lights died out as well. We couldn't get any of the lights to turn back on. So basically my question before i try to charge my battery is what are the chances that I've blown a fuse?(or something worse:() I checked all the fuses in the little box next to the engine...so is there any more I should check? Thanks to anyone who reads this drawn out story and thanks to anyone who replies.:sunglasse
Genopsyde
03-22-2006, 10:00 PM
you can test a battery voltage with a meter right?
666_speed
03-22-2006, 10:26 PM
try another battery in the car or that battery in another car
Iron
03-22-2006, 11:47 PM
Yea tomorrow I'm gonna take the battery out of my dad's car and try it out in there
Mr. Luos
03-23-2006, 12:20 AM
Battery should do it.
CamarosRsweet94
03-23-2006, 12:41 AM
Did you disconnect the battery when you stored it?
malletslinger
03-23-2006, 01:01 AM
After letting a car sit for that long, it is a good idea to put a trickle charger on it to make shure you have full charge so you dont put too much strain on your alternator right away...
And since you didnt check the battery, does that mean you didnt check anything else eather??? :nono:
Not a good way to do things...:shakehead...You leave a car sitting for months to protect it from the salt on the roads and then you go and try to start it with out checking anything?!? :disappoin
Not only are you askin for trouble, but if you had messed something up, or if this forum didn't exist, then you would probably end up going to a mechanic, and when they start troubleshooting, and find that you have a dead battery, that just screams :dupe: and how many mechanics wouldnt take advantage of this situation?!?!?!?!? $$$$$$$$$$$$$ :bricks1:
And since you didnt check the battery, does that mean you didnt check anything else eather??? :nono:
Not a good way to do things...:shakehead...You leave a car sitting for months to protect it from the salt on the roads and then you go and try to start it with out checking anything?!? :disappoin
Not only are you askin for trouble, but if you had messed something up, or if this forum didn't exist, then you would probably end up going to a mechanic, and when they start troubleshooting, and find that you have a dead battery, that just screams :dupe: and how many mechanics wouldnt take advantage of this situation?!?!?!?!? $$$$$$$$$$$$$ :bricks1:
wrightz28
03-23-2006, 12:09 PM
Additionally after you store a car for awhile you should disable the fuel system from firing and crank it a few times to get oil in the top end and cylinder walls. Otherwise you're dry starting and that's no good.
Iron
03-23-2006, 08:23 PM
Yes I disconnected the battery and etc. I followed the methods on storage I learned in my mechanics class...with some reference from a book. The battery is ruined..I'm not sure what the deal is with that but it wont even charge, the car started fine every previous time and starts fine with another battery in it. It's a few years past its free replacement date so I'm gonna pick up a new one in a bit here.
Mr. Luos
03-23-2006, 08:28 PM
It dried up.
It happens.
It happens.
Rally Sport
03-23-2006, 09:02 PM
It dried up.
It happens.
Yup.. sucks..
It happens.
Yup.. sucks..
CamarosRsweet94
03-23-2006, 10:05 PM
Additionally after you store a car for awhile you should disable the fuel system from firing and crank it a few times to get oil in the top end and cylinder walls. Otherwise you're dry starting and that's no good.
Even if you do this you're still causing damage from no oil...
Even if you do this you're still causing damage from no oil...
Earlsfat
03-24-2006, 01:36 AM
So what... change the oil first before starting it up after a long break????
stepho
03-24-2006, 02:34 AM
So what... change the oil first before starting it up after a long break????
Don't store it!
Give your camaro's to someone who lives in an area without snow... like me.
BTW- thats not an invite to move here we have to many people as it is.. its getting crammed down here! :iceslolan
Don't store it!
Give your camaro's to someone who lives in an area without snow... like me.
BTW- thats not an invite to move here we have to many people as it is.. its getting crammed down here! :iceslolan
Mr. Luos
03-24-2006, 08:11 AM
Don't store it!
Give your camaro's to someone who lives in an area without snow... like me.
BTW- thats not an invite to move here we have to many people as it is.. its getting crammed down here! :iceslolan
Yes.
Fluid draws in moisture.
If stored...I would drain most all fluids in the car.
Give your camaro's to someone who lives in an area without snow... like me.
BTW- thats not an invite to move here we have to many people as it is.. its getting crammed down here! :iceslolan
Yes.
Fluid draws in moisture.
If stored...I would drain most all fluids in the car.
wrightz28
03-24-2006, 10:15 AM
Even if you do this you're still causing damage from no oil...
very true, but the point is this builds up the pressure. Dry cranking at 400 rpm is a bit better than dry starting and going straight to 1500 rpm with 0 pressure top end I say. That kills lifters and bends rods.
i would be curious to try slick 50 or something that claims to coat everything and stay put. Actually I think I will do that, now I'm really curious.
Jim, cars like ours, the best thing to do is yes change the oil if it's sat for a long time, pull the distributer and turn the oil pump with a drill. You can go the extra mile by shooting a couple drop of oil into the cylinders through the spark plug hole (you just have to pull the plugs again and clean them tho)
very true, but the point is this builds up the pressure. Dry cranking at 400 rpm is a bit better than dry starting and going straight to 1500 rpm with 0 pressure top end I say. That kills lifters and bends rods.
i would be curious to try slick 50 or something that claims to coat everything and stay put. Actually I think I will do that, now I'm really curious.
Jim, cars like ours, the best thing to do is yes change the oil if it's sat for a long time, pull the distributer and turn the oil pump with a drill. You can go the extra mile by shooting a couple drop of oil into the cylinders through the spark plug hole (you just have to pull the plugs again and clean them tho)
1986Z28
03-24-2006, 01:17 PM
yeah, with older cars with distributer draining the oil before storage isnt a bad idea, but i would change it after you take it out of storage, then pull you distributer and prime it(turns the oul pump with a drill), we use the bottom half of an old ditributer and a distributer shaft to prime the fc
97cavalier
03-24-2006, 07:40 PM
Don't store it!
Give your camaro's to someone who lives in an area without snow... like me.
BTW- thats not an invite to move here we have to many people as it is.. its getting crammed down here! :iceslolan
stepho, how is your lt1 rebuild doing? are you done with it yet?
Give your camaro's to someone who lives in an area without snow... like me.
BTW- thats not an invite to move here we have to many people as it is.. its getting crammed down here! :iceslolan
stepho, how is your lt1 rebuild doing? are you done with it yet?
Iron
03-24-2006, 11:18 PM
Alright I've got a whole new problem guys. After the we took the test battery out of the car and put the new one i bought in, the car would not crank again. It was running before we put the new one in, and now it wont...even when we try to put the old one that was working before in. When i put the key to start position(neutral+clutch pressed as well of course) there is a single click sound...but nothing follows. All electronic accessories, like the radio, work fine with any battery in it. My Haynes book suggests a loose connection on the solenoid or stuff...but when taking the old battery out we didnt bump anything as far as I know. I'm stumped:confused:, anyone got ideas before I ask a professional?
97cavalier
03-24-2006, 11:20 PM
check wire going to starter. This kinda sounds like a vats problem. You checked fuses right?
Iron
03-24-2006, 11:29 PM
yes sir.
97cavalier
03-24-2006, 11:31 PM
smack the starter with a hammer then try to start it.
malletslinger
03-25-2006, 01:46 PM
Sounds like you may need to bypass the vats...
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