JDM civic special edition???

i saw this on ebay, whats a special edition???
Item # 1841335020

i didnt think there was a SE for the JDM Civic.

:lol2: :lol2:

WHAT A FUCKEN JOKE!!!!
Thats false advertising if ever I saw it.

The special edition models of the Civic were all D15 powered. That is 1500cc SOHC Carberated.
However most of them used the 91 or face lifted body shape, which has the same bonnet as the SiR. (differnt bumber however)
The rear lights are the same, but thats it. That center panel is worth NOTHING. Infact the wreckers here would almost give them away.

A real EF9 center panel has VTEC printed under the CIVIC. and only the EF9 has that.


There is absolutly nothing "Special" about those tails, and they are certianly not "rare"

That guys a dumbass
The Corners lights Are amber unlike usdm are Red
USDM has amber corners also!! This guy needs to learn his shit.

ROTFLMAO :D :D :D

Gee - if you but into that, then you deserve the word "special" to be on your car :D :D :D

I really don't mean to be rude - but c'mon, some people would buy anything at the merest hint of it *possibly* being JDM ;)

*snicker*

Uh-oh - hope I'm not going to get told off again because I don't know what JDM is ;)

I have one of those Special Edition rear garnish...havent installed it yet, but bought it from ebay for $20...shipping included.

ok, maybe a bit off topic but take a look at this JDM CRX EF7 special edition called "CRX Exclusive"

http://213.93.49.145:101/crxclub/crxboek/crxexclusive.html

jammie :licker:

hey Bracer, that looks like my car on your avatar?....the same as thousands of others...

Originally posted by EF_LSVtec
hey Bracer, that looks like my car on your avatar?....the same as thousands of others...

Ummm... you have a EE9/EF9 front end? Good stuff ;) Bracer drives an EE9 VTi Civic :)

Ummm... bracer - I hate to say it but the link you put up - that's a ED9 CRX, not an EF7 ;) It says ED9 clearly at the top of the page :p

ED is not JDM, it's Asia/Pacific (our Civics/CRXs have the ED VIN code too), but not Japan. ED is the designation for a Honda not made for the Japanese market (this is an educated guess, as ED spec cars seem to be everwhere but Japan).

Is it just me - or does the text on the brochure look Chinese, not Japanese - now I'm wondering if EDs did come out in Japan. Time to do a quick check I think.

But damn it looks nice :)

Thats a wicked nice rex.

Just did a quick check:

The hyper dual-carb 1.5 CRX is a E-EF6.
CRX Si is a E-EF7
CRX SiR is a E-EF8

Civic line-up:
Si Extra: E-EF3
Si: E-EF3
25X: E-EF2
25R: E-EF2
23L: E-EF1
23U: E-EF1
SiR: E-EF9
SiRII: E-EF9

All run the EF designation. Of note - Singapore and a few other countries in Asia got the SiR and Si Civic/CRX - but they wern't manufactured in Japan and carried the ED designation from what I'm lead to believe (via my Mechanic who worked for Honda in Asia - unconfirmed though).

Educated guess - and it's only a guess... that ED9 is a Asian CRX, but not JDM.

man, for the cost of shipping alone($60!!) i could buy me some ol' USDM Si great condition taillights!

Oh ya, read my signature! :smoka:

Originally posted by Moppie
:lol2: :lol2:

WHAT A FUCKEN JOKE!!!!
Thats false advertising if ever I saw it.

The special edition models of the Civic were all D15 powered. That is 1500cc SOHC Carberated.
However most of them used the 91 or face lifted body shape, which has the same bonnet as the SiR. (differnt bumber however)
The rear lights are the same, but thats it. That center panel is worth NOTHING. Infact the wreckers here would almost give them away.

A real EF9 center panel has VTEC printed under the CIVIC. and only the EF9 has that.


There is absolutly nothing "Special" about those tails, and they are certianly not "rare"

Err umm, well actually the Pre-Facelift EF3 Si does exist in a "Special Edition" for what its worth, I have no idea what is special about it, but I have seen a couple of them around. Its usually things like a leather wrapped steering wheel and different interior trim, sunroof, blah blah, but like Moppie has said there is nothing 'special' about the lights, its the car they came from.

Originally posted by Setanta


Ummm... you have a EE9/EF9 front end? Good stuff ;) Bracer drives an EE9 VTi Civic :)

Ummm... bracer - I hate to say it but the link you put up - that's a ED9 CRX, not an EF7 ;) It says ED9 clearly at the top of the page :p

ED is not JDM, it's Asia/Pacific (our Civics/CRXs have the ED VIN code too), but not Japan. ED is the designation for a Honda not made for the Japanese market (this is an educated guess, as ED spec cars seem to be everwhere but Japan).

Is it just me - or does the text on the brochure look Chinese, not Japanese - now I'm wondering if EDs did come out in Japan. Time to do a quick check I think.

But damn it looks nice :)

Sorry but that is a JDM CRX EF7 Si Exclusve, I have no idea what the Japanese were thinking, but up close that tan interior is totally :apuke: maybe its just my opinion but I absolutely hate it. It was also only in the pre facelift era so most Japanese specifications sources won't list it any more.
I have seen about 2 or 3 of them here in NZ, and was totally shocked at the interior, sorry it just doesn't do it for me. :bloated:

first post by Setana -- SiR: E-EF9
SiRII: E-EF9

Whats the difference?

Originally posted by Melt


Whats the difference?

The 'SiRII' was the one with all the add ons, a/c, power windows, power steering, sunroof (as an option).

But the 'SiR' had none of these comforts, and as a result was considerably lighter. (not very common as an import here)

But both the SiR and the SiRII were both labelled 'SiR'.
So the badging is the same on both the SiR and SiRII.

Setanta and Moppie both have SiRII's

Damn - I'd only found that out last week and was looking for an excuse to post it :) SiR was the track oriented car, SiRII was the road car apparently.

BTW - the site lists the CRX as an ED9, not an EF7 - that's where my info was coming from. ED was APAC (Asia PACific region excluding Japan).

It still looks a nice a sweet rex - I've seen tan interiors in them that look quite nice.

Originally posted by Setanta
Damn - I'd only found that out last week and was looking for an excuse to post it :) SiR was the track oriented car, SiRII was the road car apparently.

BTW - the site lists the CRX as an ED9, not an EF7 - that's where my info was coming from. ED was APAC (Asia PACific region excluding Japan).

It still looks a nice a sweet rex - I've seen tan interiors in them that look quite nice.

I've seen that Si exclusive on another site before, it is a Japanese import into the UK.
The last one I saw here with a Tan interior was in a really shabby condition, so maybe that distorted my view of it. hehe :cool:

Well according to the book at Honda all the 90' model year EF9s were known as the SiR, and had things like A/C sunroof etc as an option. (which is why both our cars have slightly differnt specs)
and the SiRII was simply fully loaded with everything right from the start, and was only avliable in the 91' model year.
(and I know my car is an early '90, thanks to the chassis number and the same book)

So if you wanted to go racing in '90 you bought an SiR and didn't add any of the options. (prehaps the sunroof if your tall)
But if you wanted a road car you simply ticked as many boxs as your wallet allowed.
Then in '91 you either bought a striped out SiR for the track, or a full spec SiRII for the street.


and I have never seen a special edition Si.
But I have seen special edition cars that looked exactly like an Si, except they were powered by a lovely 1300 twincarb :D (but had 4wheel discs, and Si spec suspension.)

One day I'm going to get a straight story on all this ;) Geez - so many different tales some of which that say that the SiR II is actually an EG :rolleyes: If you have the book on them though... ;)

Oh well, mines earlier than yours as I recollect moppie - I'm trying to remember what the factory differences are and can only think of my climate control v's your air-con setup. P/S, P/W, P/M, C/C, moonroof... that's all I have.

Originally posted by Moppie
Well according to the book at Honda all the 90' model year EF9s were known as the SiR, and had things like A/C sunroof etc as an option. (which is why both our cars have slightly differnt specs)
and the SiRII was simply fully loaded with everything right from the start, and was only avliable in the 91' model year.
(and I know my car is an early '90, thanks to the chassis number and the same book)

So if you wanted to go racing in '90 you bought an SiR and didn't add any of the options. (prehaps the sunroof if your tall)
But if you wanted a road car you simply ticked as many boxs as your wallet allowed.
Then in '91 you either bought a striped out SiR for the track, or a full spec SiRII for the street.


and I have never seen a special edition Si.
But I have seen special edition cars that looked exactly like an Si, except they were powered by a lovely 1300 twincarb :D (but had 4wheel discs, and Si spec suspension.)

Originally posted by Setanta
One day I'm going to get a straight story on all this ;) Geez - so many different tales some of which that say that the SiR II is actually an EG :rolleyes: If you have the book on them though... ;)

Oh well, mines earlier than yours as I recollect moppie - I'm trying to remember what the factory differences are and can only think of my climate control v's your air-con setup. P/S, P/W, P/M, C/C, moonroof... that's all I have.



There is also the same SiR & SiRII situation with the EG models.

I dunno how much you trust that site, http://autos.yahoo.co.jp/ucar but it has never been wrong with the specs of anything that I have ever seen here regardless of manufacturer and is far more comprehensive than Honda's skimpy database, also I have had numerous problems with Honda NZ's knowlegde & Database of Japanese models as there were so many.

Setanta: Thats the most Concrete information you can get other than actually getting your hands on an original paper catalogue from Japan.

But overall it seems that a lot of it comes down to peoples opinions, and it can be very hard to prove wrong or right. For example I recall someone saying the EF7 CRX never got ABS, yet I could quite happily send them to the wreckers in Palmy to take a look for themselves.

Also one thing to note is that occasionally some Japanese owners of cars do actually do the whole 'sticker thing' and get the stickers from Honda and do what they want to do, and we get something here that isn't quite what it says it is.

The Special Edition Si Civic I saw was certainly an Si whether the SE badging was correct or not I have no idea, but I have only seen a couple of them and they were both pre facelift with the bonnet 'hump' for the ZC.

Moppie: I assume you are talking about the 25XT EF2 Civic (1500 Dual Carb) with 'SE' badging, I find it interesting that it had 4Disc system, as most other Honda products have a different chassis ID# e.g. EFX when a major mechanical system is different. From what else I have seen, the 'Special Edition' has always been Interior differences and not mechanical, although the cars have been in another country for over 10 years and who knows what they got up to.

Another thing that I have seen is cars with replaced Boot/Trunk Hatches, hence receiving another 'badge' as many cars we get here are slightly broken before we get to buy them.

blah.

Setanta, I know it says ED9 at the top of the page but it's an Si and it's RHD. In Europe only the Civics'/CRXs in GB and Ireland are RHD and in Europe the Si is called 1.6i-16 (ED9) + the car in the pics has a JDM gauge cluster (km/h scale till 180) so it can't be European (GB/Ireland MPH). and since it is RHD it isn't American or Canadian either. So.....(you're still with me? :p ) I assumed it was JDM and therefore EF7 and not ED9 :bloated:







Originally posted by EF_LSVtec
hey Bracer, that looks like my car on your avatar?....the same as thousands of others...
sorry but what are you trying to say?

Too many types of civic.....loosing the ability to determine trim levels.....i own an std.hf.dx.cx.hx.lx.ex.si.sir.sirII!@#$%^&*()AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH




roflmao..........gunnmen01

Originally posted by EF6_CR-X

but it has never been wrong with the specs of anything that I have ever seen here regardless of manufacturer and is far more comprehensive than Honda's skimpy database, also I have had numerous problems with Honda NZ's knowlegde & Database of Japanese models as there were so many.


Well Honda has recently up dated thier data base, and so far have never had trouble finding parts for my car.

However the book I saw was the complete model listing for finding chassis codes to then find parts in the computer. It was the Japanese book, with most things in Japanese, the computer program used was also totaly in Japanese. The parts guy and I simply used the diagrams and chassis codes (which even in Japan still use roman numerals) to find things.
It was a good inch and half thick, and covered every model of Honda ever made and sold in Japan and the asia pasfic region up untill 2000.
So qiute simply it was the most acurate source of information there is, as its the offical book used by Honda in Japan.







However this is becoming an awsome thread! It just shows how many differnt variations of the 4g exist!
(and that America is not the only country in the world :D )

Originally posted by Moppie


Well Honda has recently up dated thier data base, and so far have never had trouble finding parts for my car.

However the book I saw was the complete model listing for finding chassis codes to then find parts in the computer. It was the Japanese book, with most things in Japanese, the computer program used was also totaly in Japanese. The parts guy and I simply used the diagrams and chassis codes (which even in Japan still use roman numerals) to find things.
It was a good inch and half thick, and covered every model of Honda ever made and sold in Japan and the asia pasfic region up untill 2000.
So qiute simply it was the most acurate source of information there is, as its the offical book used by Honda in Japan.







However this is becoming an awsome thread! It just shows how many differnt variations of the 4g exist!
(and that America is not the only country in the world :D )

Yeah I agree with that about the NZ parts database, they have the whole thing on their computers, even though most of the text is Japanese, also Honda in Auckland may be a bit more clued up on those matters than they are down this way. I probably should have been clearer about what I said as the 'skimpy database' I was refering to Honda Japan's website, www.honda.co.jp/HOT/ModelData as this is actually the used car Division of Honda Japan, and they only list the 'Major' or most common models, and from what I can see, it is there as a guide for people searching the used car database, which can be found at http://www.honda.co.jp/hot (HOT standing for Honda Open Terrace). There were a whole heap of 4g civic's but like you mentioned in the JDM forum the other day about that 4WD 2dr Integra, I have never seen a listing for a 4WD 2dr, especailly with a B series driving it, but hey you saw it so it does exist, it's just that its isn't published in publically accessable documents, i.e. over the net.
Afterall the cars were intended for the Japanese market, so most of the support would be in Japanese documentation, which Honda NZ have probably deemed not worth translating, as the info isn't crucial to their operation.

Here is a list I compiled a few months ago.

This is what was publically available in Japan as from September 1989 (1990 year of manufacture) So this is all the facelift models of all civic hatches, sedans, and CRX's

CR-X
1.5X EF6 1493cc D15B 16v 105ps (77.23 kw) dual carb
Si EF7 1590cc DOHC ZC 16v 130ps (95.62 kw) Injected
SiR EF8 1595cc DOHC VTEC B16A 16v 160ps (117.68 kw) Injected

Civic Hatch
23L EF1 1343cc D13B 16v 82ps (60.31 kw) single carb
23U EF1 1343cc D13B 16v 82ps (60.31 kw) single carb
25R EF2 1493cc D15B 16v 91ps (66.93 kw) single carb
25X EF2 1493cc D15B 16v 105ps (77.23 kw) dual carb
25XT EF2 1493cc D15B 16v 105ps (77.23 kw) dual carb
Si EF3 1590cc DOHC ZC 16v 130ps (95.62 kw) Injected
SiR EF9 1595cc DOHC VTEC B16A 16v 160ps (117.68 kw) Injected


Civic 4 door
33U EF1 1343cc D13B 16v 82ps (60.31 kw) single carb
35M EF2 1493cc D15B 16v 91ps (66.93 kw) single carb
35X EF2 1493cc D15B 16v 100ps (73.55 kw) dual carb
35XT EF2 1493cc D15B 16v 100ps (73.55 kw) dual carb
36i EF3 1590cc SOHC ZC 16v 120ps (88.26 kw) Injected
RT-Si EF5 1590cc DOHC ZC 16v 130ps (95.62 kw) Injected 4WD
RTX EF5 1590cc SOHC ZC 16v 105ps (77.23 kw) dual carb 4WD
RTi EF5 1590cc SOHC ZC 16v 120ps (88.26 kw) Injected 4WD
Si EF3 1590cc DOHC ZC 16v 130ps (95.62 kw) Injected

No 'special editions' have been listed as they share the same mechanical specs and Chassis codes as the 'non special' mechanical equivalent, although most special edition cars are heavier than the standard car of the same model, due to extra internal features.

All that info and much more is available at http://autos.yahoo.co.jp/ucar/ but you will need to use a translator and have a lot of patience.

Originally posted by bracer
Setanta, I know it says ED9 at the top of the page but it's an Si and it's RHD. In Europe only the Civics'/CRXs in GB and Ireland are RHD and in Europe the Si is called 1.6i-16 (ED9) + the car in the pics has a JDM gauge cluster (km/h scale till 180) so it can't be European (GB/Ireland MPH). and since it is RHD it isn't American or Canadian either. So.....(you're still with me? :p ) I assumed it was JDM and therefore EF7 and not ED9 :bloated:



Yeah I know - my point is that the ED-X series are Asia-Pacific vehicles - but non JDM :) As such, it would run the JDM 180km/h speedo etc.

Asia-Pacific is also RHD.

Why do I think we are arguing the same thing? ;)