Death of a DSM
crunchymilk55
03-20-2006, 01:55 AM
READ my dyno post in performance first so you know what I'm talking about!
So me and the other car I mentioned in my dyno post (go read that) are on the highway heading home. Well, we engage in a certain activity that isn't forum postable I think. You take a guess. It's also on video :grinno: Maybe you can PM me for the video when it's online.
Anyway, during this event, he performs only a hair better than me. It involved 60-100, heh. Something's wrong, he just made over 100whp than me. BAMM! A bigass spark flies out of his vented carbon fiber hood, and his engine is runing like shit. So we get off the highway and me and 3 other dsm'ers go over this car frantically. We touch all the bases, no intercooler piping loose, timing looks perfect, all the injectors are seated properly, everything's fine. The car almost sounds like it's running on only 3 cylinders. We pull plugs 4-3-2- in that order, the engine stumbles. However, in cylinder 1, no change. We pull the plug out, and find this
http://photos-829.facebook.com/n12/30/44/25404848/n25404848_30412829_1254.jpg
So we hope to God that end of the plug isn't what shot out his external wastegate. We load in another BPR7ES plug. Nothing, that cylinder is dead. My guess is that he had been knocking this whole time. If you read my dyno thread in performance, you'll see that he showd 0.0 knock at all time. When he finally put enough load on the engine on the highway, he detonated and shot that part of the plug through the wastegate. Keep in mind cylinder 1 is closest to the wastegate. These are brand new plugs. This situation is still under works, we're still figuring out what damage has been done. It had to be towed home. I'll post results when I have them. The worst part is, he had just got his dsm running about 2 weeks ago after it being down for about 3 months or so.
Once I get the video, I'll let ya'll know, and I can email the link to people I know. Keep it to yourselves guys, thanks.
So me and the other car I mentioned in my dyno post (go read that) are on the highway heading home. Well, we engage in a certain activity that isn't forum postable I think. You take a guess. It's also on video :grinno: Maybe you can PM me for the video when it's online.
Anyway, during this event, he performs only a hair better than me. It involved 60-100, heh. Something's wrong, he just made over 100whp than me. BAMM! A bigass spark flies out of his vented carbon fiber hood, and his engine is runing like shit. So we get off the highway and me and 3 other dsm'ers go over this car frantically. We touch all the bases, no intercooler piping loose, timing looks perfect, all the injectors are seated properly, everything's fine. The car almost sounds like it's running on only 3 cylinders. We pull plugs 4-3-2- in that order, the engine stumbles. However, in cylinder 1, no change. We pull the plug out, and find this
http://photos-829.facebook.com/n12/30/44/25404848/n25404848_30412829_1254.jpg
So we hope to God that end of the plug isn't what shot out his external wastegate. We load in another BPR7ES plug. Nothing, that cylinder is dead. My guess is that he had been knocking this whole time. If you read my dyno thread in performance, you'll see that he showd 0.0 knock at all time. When he finally put enough load on the engine on the highway, he detonated and shot that part of the plug through the wastegate. Keep in mind cylinder 1 is closest to the wastegate. These are brand new plugs. This situation is still under works, we're still figuring out what damage has been done. It had to be towed home. I'll post results when I have them. The worst part is, he had just got his dsm running about 2 weeks ago after it being down for about 3 months or so.
Once I get the video, I'll let ya'll know, and I can email the link to people I know. Keep it to yourselves guys, thanks.
ez1286
03-20-2006, 01:59 AM
Damn that sucks. I wonder if his knock sensor was disconnected.
Blackcrow64
03-20-2006, 08:35 AM
The pain... It hurts... It'll be ok. I blew up the Firebird yesterday. :icon16:
Turbodog97
03-20-2006, 05:56 PM
Wow...that's shiitty, I saw this post originally on srtforums, but didn't know you were the other car, damn...small world. Why were your numbers so low? Was it a boost leak or something? But hey, on the bright side...time for a fully built engine for your friend:)
Talon69
03-20-2006, 06:28 PM
That really sucks man. Hopefully its not to much damage done!!!
Thor06
03-20-2006, 06:53 PM
I'd like to see the video.
Sucks to hear that man. Is a rod hanging out the side of the block?
Sucks to hear that man. Is a rod hanging out the side of the block?
EDMUND65
03-20-2006, 07:57 PM
hey my plugs look like that lol.... my car has never run right... lol although i have had 7 sets plugs in it in the last year
Black99GST
03-20-2006, 08:04 PM
yeah, i would like to take a look at the video also...
EDMUND65
03-20-2006, 08:14 PM
way to double double post post lol
Black99GST
03-20-2006, 08:17 PM
haha sorry, my bad... i got that Sh*t before it could spred...
blk_srt
03-20-2006, 08:35 PM
:1: for the video
NateS
03-20-2006, 08:41 PM
That really sucks. It is kinda hard to get online here and read all these wierd problems and people blowing their engine then go out and drive my car... it almost looks good enough to just sit there though:grinno: .
I would also like to see the video.
I would also like to see the video.
clipsekid99
03-20-2006, 10:33 PM
Video! video! video! lol
Man, that sucks for your friend. Hope everything turns out ok.
Man, that sucks for your friend. Hope everything turns out ok.
Killa
03-20-2006, 10:41 PM
Is those plug come with 2 year warranty ? cause my bpr6es bought from advan auto did. I think you can come there and swap out a new set for free ( do that every oil change :grinyes: ).
crunchymilk55
03-20-2006, 11:36 PM
I'll get the video as soon as its uploaded. I think my friend can't find the cord to his video cam...
Talon69
03-21-2006, 05:32 PM
Oh yeah i would like to see the video also :grinyes:
MexRocket
03-21-2006, 05:39 PM
word...
crunchymilk55
03-21-2006, 05:56 PM
found out what happened. The previous owner installed some sort of knock switch on the ECU. It was turned off accidentally = no knock signal. His engine was dying the entire dyno session.....The highway run was too much
still waiting on the video too..
still waiting on the video too..
blk_srt
03-21-2006, 05:59 PM
damn that sucks. Still cant wait to see the vid
Thor06
03-21-2006, 06:08 PM
What exactly would be the purpose of putting a switch in the knock sensor? Was whoever did that TRYING to fuck something up?
crunchymilk55
03-21-2006, 06:38 PM
I have no fucking clue. Only thing I can think of is if you had a really really bad case of phantom knock, and just turned off the sensor for daily driving. But that's the ghetto way out...
blk_srt
03-21-2006, 08:19 PM
Well not to state the obvious but alot of times DSM and Ghetto go hand in hand
MexRocket
03-21-2006, 10:20 PM
Well not to state the obvious but alot of times DSM and Ghetto go hand in hand
It's so funny because it's true. :banghead: I didn't know that the Phantom knock was that common. :dunno:
It's so funny because it's true. :banghead: I didn't know that the Phantom knock was that common. :dunno:
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